How about a 6v6v6v6 version?

For some reason I can't start this map with either 1.29.2 or the latest PTR.
Actually, it might be because of the version you've saved it on (1.21) and you might have even used a non-official editor.

Awaiting Update.


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deepstrasz said:

For some reason I can't start this map with either 1.29.2 or the latest PTR.
Actually, it might be because of the version you've saved it on (1.21) and you might have even used a non-official editor.

Awaiting Update.

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The map has been updated, errors caused by YDWE have been deleted and the trigger of the map has been redesigned. I can play with my own tests.

I tested the map.

1) I didnt find altered melee elements (new races, new events, new shops, new heroes, new something), no quest log explaining why this is an altered, so I can guess this can be win as a melee game play, defeating the enemy. The only altered element seems to be the red blood fountain of the middle.
is a normal melee with a layout that is not good (at all) for normal melee play. (1 one way of attack by land, no conections)

I sugest you to read melee tutorials to learn how to do a good melee map.

2) gaps between trees (thats bad for melee).
3) Only goldmines, no shops, no merc camps, no tavern,no green creeps to level up,
with this layout I would tower the base ,go with aerial units, not bother with land units, thats the problem of to much deep water.

4)With all respect to your map, Probably it wasnt your intention but the center looks like a "nazi symbol", wich a Jew player may feel offended.
So I strongly sugest to change the layout so it doesn look like a SS nazi swastica.



Overall not an altered melee map, and for a melee map I have to say that you should read tutorials, see others melee maps so you can do good melee maps.
Maybe you should start with a few amount of players and increase the number while wining experience.

good luck and see ya.

Ragnaros17 said:

Probably it wasnt your intention but the center looks like a "nazi symbol", wich a Jew player may feel offended.

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The swastika is not originally a Nazi symbol. It's Indian. So, the offense is only a psychological matter.

deepstrasz said:

The swastika is not originally a Nazi symbol. It's Indian. So, the offense is only a psychological matter.

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Swastika - Wikipedia

The symbol has been used by:

-the Jainism in the Jain temples, an ancient indian religion with sanscrit languaje, from the 5th BCE.
- the representation of the 4 arms of the goddes Kali
- Representing Brahmi.
- Representing Pallava dinasty.
- Budhism Darma Wheel.
- Mongolian Shamanism.
- Augsto roman empire,
- armenian ancient cathedral motive.
- Sami Finland, thunder god, sami shamanism, Horagalles
-symbol of thor mjonhir.

- The Ashanti Empire from 1670-1957
-others, got bored of the list.

- favorite design of Agusta Feodorovna, russian empress, symbol removed after WWII german ocupation.
-Finish airforce adopted it in 1918 and baned it in 1944.
- A sweden company adopted it, ASEA in late 1800 and remove it in 1933 when you know who become furher of germany.
- the symbol of the 45th infantry division of EEUU army till 1930.

Unless you are Jain, Brahmi, Pallave idolater, Mongolian or Sami shaman, Thor devote, or a very very history lover of very ancient things and death languages,

the symbol was also used in Europe and EEUU but after WWII it was banned, it can be used in movies, but you cant rise a flag with that symbol with not having a penal denounce. In my country is forbbiden and you can be denounced by using those symbols (and nobody will buy here that you are just an india culture lover)

also the indian swastica has 4 dots or is mirrowed horizontally with no dots.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe.../HinduSwastika.svg/96px-HinduSwastika.svg.png

Ragnaros17 said:

also the indian swastica has 4 dots or is mirrowed horizontally with no dots.

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Yeah, the Jain one does but not always. Look at other swastikas:
On the Changing History of the Swastika in South Korea
Even Aztecs had their swastika:
Swastika - Wikipedia

The direction or position of the swastikas don't matter. There is no standard for every culture's swastika.

It's easy to be uneducated and say stuff like it's offensive and should be banned. Nowadays, political correctness is based more on feelings than rationale.

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deepstrasz said:

Yeah, the Jain one does but not always. Look at other swastikas:
On the Changing History of the Swastika in South Korea
Even Aztecs had their swastika:
Swastika - Wikipedia

The direction or position of the swastikas don't matter. There is no standard for every culture's swastika.

It's easy to be uneducated and say stuff like it's offensive and should be banned. Nowadays, political correctness is based more on feelings than rationale.

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problem is that neonazism still exist (and it seems is increasing these days) and that symbol is what they use to identify themself and they praise fascism (wich fascism is forbbiden as political party), thats why is avoided if you dont want to get tag as being part of those groups.

If you are indian or asian, is all ok, but an european or occidental culture, people will think otherwise.

going to topic: melee.

the design is really bad for melee, you cant walk, manouver between areas by land, people will go more to aerial force, also 1 way to go quits flanking, retire, regroup strategies, also small space for 12 land armies IMO.

Ragnaros17 said:

If you are indian or asian, is all ok, but an european or occidental culture, people will think otherwise.

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I don't care what they think. It's their cretin minds that can't get it otherwise. There are also new age religious groups using swastikas and they do not practice racism.
As long as the swastika doesn't look like the one Nazism used, meaning an inclined black swastika facing clockwise placed in a white circle surrounded by a red background, then it all should be alright.

deepstrasz said:

I don't care what they think. It's their cretin minds that can't get it otherwise. There are also new age religious groups using swastikas and they do not practice racism.
As long as the swastika doesn't look like the one Nazism used, meaning an inclined black swastika facing clockwise placed in a white circle surrounded by a red background, then it all should be alright.

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yes sorry for my spam.

the other land parts motive camoflage it a lot, looks like a mosaic.


regarding melee that mosaic design is really bad for melee, you cant walk, manouver between areas by land, people will go more to aerial force, also 1 way to go quits flanking, retire, regroup strategies, also small space for 12 land armies IMO.

Looks like two nazi cross.

Ragnaros17 said:

yeah sorry for my spam.

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No, you are right. Imbecile laws have been made against swastikas.

Ragnaros17 said:

regarding melee that mosaic design is really bad for melee, you cant walk, manouver between areas by land, people will go more to aerial force, also 1 way to go quits flanking, retire, regroup strategies, also small space for 12 land armies IMO.

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Sure, corridors isn't something you should have in melee because of units being cluttered and having to walk in line for quite the distances.

Chaosy said:

Looks like two nazi cross.

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The minimap? Looks like a Roman (Byzantine) swastika. But it's what happens, even if you give people the right/true information, their founded beliefs will surface over any logic.