Grunt from WarCraft: Orcs and Humans

Moderator · Aug 26, 2013

21:24, 21st Oct 2013
Deolrin: As of this moment, this is simply a Grunt with an unnecessary custom texture and very, very few changes. If you can significantly improve upon this, as well as make sufficient changes and get rid of the custom texture, feel free to resubmit it.

_lycan · Aug 26, 2013

Misha · Aug 26, 2013

is there any way that ingame texture can be used? '~'

Em! · Aug 26, 2013

Misha said:
is there any way that ingame texture can be used? '~'

Pretty sure it´s possible, at least hellscream some good brown cloth texture.

StonemaulMidget · Aug 27, 2013

I can't . . .
The Modding Team said that I can't use other textures to create my Grunt's skin, so I reverted to using an E-tablet and Photoshop.
Luckily, I have the skill to look at a reference and draw it out on a new layer in Photoshop.

StonemaulMidget · Aug 27, 2013

I pretty much drew the cloth myself via an E-tablet and Photoshop. It's relatively easy.

Argos · Aug 27, 2013

Hm, not bad model, but it takes too much size.

Misha · Aug 27, 2013

well.. the problem with that texture is that the leather vest and other bits are a little bit too blurry.. could you maybe try to get them to the same look and definition like the boots on the same texture?

EDIT: and who on earth prevents someone from using their creativity with ingame textures?

Deolrin · Aug 27, 2013

I don't get it. Who is the "modding team"?
Also, whether he uses in-game textures or not, the model looks way too simple as it is.

paladinjst · Aug 27, 2013

Misha said:
well.. the problem with that texture is that the leather vest and other bits are a little bit too blurry.. could you maybe try to get them to the same look and definition like the boots on the same texture?

EDIT: and who on earth prevents someone from using their creativity with ingame textures?

the body's texture can be used with forest troll trapper . he wears a leather armor and also has green skin . and actually this style had been come out on XGM .

InfernalTater · Aug 27, 2013

This definitely should have been done with in-game textures. 2/5 for now, it doesn't look very good (blurry) and a massive waste of file size by using custom textures for what would have looked even better with in-game textures (which would also result in a lower file size).

Follow this general rule: Use custom textures only to achieve things that cannot be achieved with in-game textures. This means either to draw something that doesn't exist on in-game textures, or to draw something with a higher quality than what in-game textures have to offer.

StonemaulMidget · Aug 28, 2013

Here's my answer.
I got this letter from the Modding Team, regarding a Priest skin I previously revamped.

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Moderation: High Elven Priest_New Skin
Hello SuperAttackrabbit,

This is an automated private message regarding the resource High Elven Priest_New Skin

The status of your resource is Rejected and the moderator posted the following comment:
Quote:
Originally Posted by shiiK
13:56, 24th Jul 2011
shiiK: As I am sure you've received most of the necessary information from the massive amount of comments below, I will be very brief here. There's a segment of the rules dedicated to resources, and a part of that is designed to cover skins specifically. In the set of these resource rules, it is mentioned that a skin has to be original, which is explained as such; the majority of the resource has to be original content. It is implied here that the original content is freehanded, as we do not accept wholly CNPed skins. This skin falls short of the mentioned criteria, as it is hardly different from the original, and even if it is useful and pleasing to look at, it is not a change large enough to justify the filesize. Therefore, I am rejecting this skin.
If you have questions about this action, please respond to this private message.

Sincerely,
The Modding Team

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This is all I know. Sorry.

StonemaulMidget · Aug 28, 2013

I wasn't harassing you. :eekani:

StonemaulMidget · Aug 28, 2013

The Modding Team is a group of people who (in my expertise) seemingly enforce and maintain the rules of this website. I even got a letter from them (with the edition of another named "shiiK") regarding a Priest skin I made earlier.

The letter is at the top, by the way.

StonemaulMidget · Aug 28, 2013

Thanks for the KB lesson there.
What's the maximum number of KBs would you recommend?

Misha · Aug 28, 2013

SuperAttackrabbit said:
Here's my answer.
I got this letter from the Modding Team, regarding a Priest skin I previously revamped.

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Moderation: High Elven Priest_New Skin
Hello SuperAttackrabbit,

This is an automated private message regarding the resource High Elven Priest_New Skin

The status of your resource is Rejected and the moderator posted the following comment:
Quote:
Originally Posted by shiiK
13:56, 24th Jul 2011
shiiK: As I am sure you've received most of the necessary information from the massive amount of comments below, I will be very brief here. There's a segment of the rules dedicated to resources, and a part of that is designed to cover skins specifically. In the set of these resource rules, it is mentioned that a skin has to be original, which is explained as such; the majority of the resource has to be original content. It is implied here that the original content is freehanded, as we do not accept wholly CNPed skins. This skin falls short of the mentioned criteria, as it is hardly different from the original, and even if it is useful and pleasing to look at, it is not a change large enough to justify the filesize. Therefore, I am rejecting this skin.
If you have questions about this action, please respond to this private message.

Sincerely,
The Modding Team

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This is all I know. Sorry.

ah, i see.. yeah, textures are supposed to be unique and hand-made, but, for models, you are completely free to use ingame textures that match well, (like that forest troll with leather vest) you are allowed (and encouraged) to use any texture that is in the game's mpq files

hope that makes it clear

oh and.. do something about those multi-posts of yours, they are a bit spammy :b

Deolrin · Aug 28, 2013

Okay, I think I have to explain a few things here.

1) The message you received from "The Modding Team" is automated. This is the format used for when a moderator moderates your resource. The message from shiiK is his moderation of your skin.

2) Multi-posting is not allowed; Please edit your previous post, instead of posting several ones.

3) Moderators, or "The Modding Team", would never tell you not to use in-game textures. That's silly.

InfernalTater · Aug 28, 2013

You misunderstood the message.

The message was telling you that when you upload a custom skin, it must use freehand custom textures, and not be a complete CnP or color mod.

When making models, you are free to wrap in-game textures, and it is usually even preferred that you use in-game textures, but the mesh, which is the model, should contain a good amount of customization (or even be scratch-made; we love that stuff).

Player · Aug 28, 2013

That's a very nice model but guys the actual WC Orcs and Humans Grunt has a two handed axe and strikes with both hands - could you try and add that to the Grunt as well because by now I only see one handed axed Grunts... :/

Try making the eyes red or red like might improve the resemblance even more.

Look at the image

3/5 for the model and the skin though I like that you made the skin just like the one from the WC 1 Grunt and that you made the horns on the Helmet smaller!

Misha · Aug 29, 2013

hmm.. twohanded grunt would be a cool idea.

try the Retera's matrix eater and see how grunt looks with paladin anims, will ya?
EDIT: or maybe felguard, he always holds his weapon

Mgeterno11 · Aug 29, 2013

It looks nice, also very useful because this is better than the original grunt. 5/5

Player · Aug 29, 2013

I agree with Misha, may be Felguard or Tauren Chieftan animations will be better!

StonemaulMidget · Aug 30, 2013

I've just tried, but Oinkerwinkle's animtransfer program is flawed and buggy. Is there another animation transfer program that I can use?
BTW, I redesigned the skin.

StonemaulMidget · Aug 30, 2013

Also, when I said it was flawed, I mean that when the Grunt attacs with the Felguard's attack animation, it simply shoulders its way without even moving the head or arms.

Paillan · Aug 31, 2013

wat? people love when stuff is made from original textures! it makes a lot off mess easier!

Deolrin · Aug 31, 2013

It's not flawed, nor buggy. You have to manually rename the bones of one of the models so they match the other one, and you also have to re-arrange them so they're in the same order.

BLazeKraze · Sep 1, 2013

nc model , but the size is too big .

StoPCampinGn00b · Sep 5, 2013

These are always more useful than the standard frostwolf grunt (wc3)

Fur on the helmets always bothered me, and you made this grunt better. O e suggestion is to add more detail to the leather, it looks to civilized.

Player · Sep 9, 2013

There doesn't it look better with those red eyes?

Deolrin were you talking to me?! :grin:

Yep I agree that the use of Ingame Textures will be the better choice

Deolrin · Sep 9, 2013

I still want you to use in-game textures for it.

EDIT: Oh wait, you're not the creator... Nevermind.

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