Garden of Death

Moderator · Mar 23, 2015

21:51, 3rd May 2015
StoPCampinGn00b: This miniature action SRPG map comes of rather challenging and visually pleasing. With the right execution, a map like this would be approved.

And so it has. Map approved.

Kino · Mar 24, 2015

You created the worst third person camera ever.
Why?

Shadow Fury · Mar 24, 2015

Kino said:
You created the worst third person camera ever.
Why?

This is what I call "constructive criticism" at its maximum power!
Anyway, I'm testing your map right now and a review will come soon.

katho · Mar 24, 2015

Kino said:
You created the worst third person camera ever.
Why?

he's right, its ok when u run on the street, but if u die in grass and try to find your hero with the soul you dont see anything...

Shadow Fury · Mar 24, 2015

Press Esc and see the magic.

meatfactory · Mar 24, 2015

Kino said:
You created the worst third person camera ever.
Why?

Use the "Esc" key to change cam modes.

Also added a preview video.

Sclammerz · Mar 25, 2015

meatfactory said:
Use the "Esc" key to change cam modes.

Never knew about this. I'll play this again.

Kino · Mar 25, 2015

Press Esc and see the magic.

Use the "Esc" key to change cam modes.
Also added a preview video.

You dont seem to get the point.
Why is a floor hugging camera view even an option?

Shadow Fury · Mar 25, 2015

GAMEPLAY ISSUES

I found the gameplay positive and negative in multiple aspects. The choice of the template contributed to a great atmosphere. The creeps you put suit the map and were generally well-balanced. It was a good feature to find plenty of quests in such a small map. However, I must say that the camera was very clumsy. The first and second camera modes were just too annoying. They got obstructed easily and if a creep was chasing me from behind, I risked to click on it rather than escaping. Then, when I passed on the stone bridge above water or, even worse, when I climbed the stairs, the camera totally went mad. Only the third camera mode (normal camera view) is the one that seems most appropriate. Now I would like to draw your attention to the quest of the orc champion. It was a bit buggy because sometimes the timer started automatically when I didn't kill any creep. Was it maybe for that unselectable bear that auto-attacks creeps? Look into this. Finally, after some time I played, I started to feel that the game got repeatative. Minions do not evolve as I level up. I really expected that when I reached higher levels, stronger creeps would appear.

THE HERO

She is the core of the game. I control a hero which can switch between melee and ranged, which is actually a great feature. What wasn't great about her was the arrow key movement. It was so rough that I couldn't control her well so people might prefer to use the common right-click movement and ignore the arrow keys totally. Then, even the attack system was a bit messy. If I right-clicked a creep from far, my hero doesn't attack it. She just walks to it and stops. I thought: "Good abilities will probably compensate this" yet it wasn't so. The abilities were overall underpowered for me. Only the throwing knives seemed good enough but they were limited (20 charged only) so I had to count on the other skills. Sadly, I benefited more from my normal attacks than the abilities I had. You should increase the damage of all offensive skills as to obtain a proper balance. Just as I managed to defeat 10 creeps, I was critical HP. At least when the hero dies, it's not over. You can drive your spirit to the dead body and revive (by taking great care from the Soul Eater). Good thing!

OVERALL RESULT

Overall the map is fine yet I would like to see improvements in some issues before voting for approval. So, my rating 3/5 and the moderator should AWAIT UPDATE!

meatfactory · Mar 25, 2015

Kino said:
You dont seem to get the point.
Why is a floor hugging camera view even an option?

I will try to improve the camera system, though it would be a bit hard with the terrain. If you or anyone else have any suggestions about a good camera system pm me or write here.

meatfactory · Mar 25, 2015

Shadow Fury said:
GAMEPLAY ISSUES

I found the gameplay positive and negative in multiple aspects. The choice of the template contributed to a great atmosphere. The creeps you put suit the map and were generally well-balanced. It was a good feature to find plenty of quests in such a small map. However, I must say that the camera was very clumsy. The first and second camera modes were just too annoying. They got obstructed easily and if a creep was chasing me from behind, I risked to click on it rather than escaping. Then, when I passed on the stone bridge above water or, even worse, when I climbed the stairs, the camera totally went mad. Only the third camera mode (normal camera view) is the one that seems most appropriate. Now I would like to draw your attention to the quest of the orc champion. It was a bit buggy because sometimes the timer started automatically when I didn't kill any creep. Was it maybe for that unselectable bear that auto-attacks creeps? Look into this. Finally, after some time I played, I started to feel that the game got repeatative. Minions do not evolve as I level up. I really expected that when I reached higher levels, stronger creeps would appear.

THE HERO

She is the core of the game. I control a hero which can switch between melee and ranged, which is actually a great feature. What wasn't great about her was the arrow key movement. It was so rough that I couldn't control her well so people might prefer to use the common right-click movement and ignore the arrow keys totally. Then, even the attack system was a bit messy. If I right-clicked a creep from far, my hero doesn't attack it. She just walks to it and stops. I thought: "Good abilities will probably compensate this" yet it wasn't so. The abilities were overall underpowered for me. Only the throwing knives seemed good enough but they were limited (20 charged only) so I had to count on the other skills. Sadly, I benefited more from my normal attacks than the abilities I had. You should increase the damage of all offensive skills as to obtain a proper balance. Just as I managed to defeat 10 creeps, I was critical HP. At least when the hero dies, it's not over. You can drive your spirit to the dead body and revive (by taking great care from the Soul Eater). Good thing!

OVERALL RESULT

Overall the map is fine yet I would like to see improvements in some issues before voting for approval. So, my rating 3/5 and the moderator should AWAIT UPDATE!

Thanks for testing! I will look in to the issues you mentioned. I know the map needs some polishing, but time is rarely on my side. And about the abilities they are intentionally not high-powered because they can stack and do some real damage which is the whole idea -> Stack damage / tactical use.

Kino · Mar 26, 2015

I will try to improve the camera system, though it would be a bit hard with the terrain. If you or anyone else have any suggestions about a good camera system pm me or write here.

You could just leave it at default.
Seriously, the custom camera angles do your terrain no justice.

Chaosy · Apr 8, 2015

Unplayable. The camera and movement was just awful, how can I play when the movement don't work :-/

I also think the genre RPG is invalid. This seems more like a minigame.

Sclammerz · Apr 9, 2015

Shadow Fury said:
Press Esc and see the magic.

As they always said.

Orcnet · Apr 27, 2015

Map set back to pending.

deepstrasz · Jul 19, 2016

3/5.
What's with that stripper model?
Could be turned into a real action RPG.

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