Final Fantasy Fight v2.4b[BETA] AI

Moderator · Nov 7, 2009

14:50, 13th Aug 2010
ap0calypse: Rejected

Feorix · Nov 7, 2009

please a better description...
Edit:
i played it a bit,the ai is too hard
cloud's agility 10569?
a bit too much^^

FrozenFenrir · Nov 7, 2009

this map has some potential, but its extremely imballanced.
-agi heroes usually rule the map cause of the fact that 3agi give 1 armor (change it to...idk...10agi=1 armor or even 20 agi=1 armor)
-why is cloud an agi hero? hes definately str D=
-needs waaaaaaay more items(how about equip?)
-the +5 tomes are too cheap. raise them to 1000gold (so they are still cheaper than buying the +2 tomes)
-most of the skills dont have a (real) description. please change that

Tank-Commander · Nov 7, 2009

I agree with all the points frozen fenrir mentioned.
I'm very curious as to wear these models came from, can you point me in the right direction? anyway i find that kuja is a bit op with his spells, i was 1hit killing the opponants heros with his final requiem. also i feel that i need to meantion, you missed out kuja's signature spell D: also in the origional game he didn't have demi as one of them, that aside i found it very intrsesting but as frozen fenrir said agi heros just always win in a fight (unless your kuja and use final requiem)

i hope to see improvements to this game soon, i enjoyed trying it out ^^

FrozenFenrir · Nov 7, 2009

i mentioned another weird thing:
a tip says something like: "if u feel ur getting pawned try to hid in the forest and train there"

the forest monsters are waaaaay stronger than those in the center and they give lesser gold =/ so its a very bad idea trying to get stronger there

Keroberoz · Nov 8, 2009

oh. thanks for the comments. intelligence types can pawn agility type heroes. they have powerful spells like tank-commander said. like vivi, he has a death sentence spell, you can't escape from death.

. but, thanks for the comments. the map will be better for your comments. ahmm, in terms of cloud's main attribute, i really don't have an idea on that so i made him an agility type and zack will be the str version of him

Keroberoz · Nov 8, 2009

Tank-Commander said:
I agree with all the points frozen fenrir mentioned.
I'm very curious as to wear these models came from, can you point me in the right direction? anyway i find that kuja is a bit op with his spells, i was 1hit killing the opponants heros with his final requiem. also i feel that i need to meantion, you missed out kuja's signature spell D: also in the origional game he didn't have demi as one of them, that aside i found it very intrsesting but as frozen fenrir said agi heros just always win in a fight (unless your kuja and use final requiem)

i hope to see improvements to this game soon, i enjoyed trying it out ^^

he has a demi spell in ff ix. ^_^. when you encounter him after defeating garland,he will use black magic including blizzaga, thundaga, demi, etc.
^_^

Tank-Commander · Nov 8, 2009

does he? well it was so long ago i have no memeory of the storyline from late disc3 and onwards up to the end of disc 4.
all i remember are trance kuja spells ^^
if i recall i have 400+ gaming hours, and i reached the end in 10 of those hours

if i remember trance kuja uses:
Curaga
Flare Star
Reflect
Holy
and a few others, but I defeat him too quickly so i never get to see them ^^

Keroberoz · Nov 9, 2009

ah! i forgot that flare star! XD. i remember now.

400+ gaming hours?! hahaha! i guess you complete all the cards, side quest and 100% of the game with that gaming hours.

Keroberoz · Nov 9, 2009

Map Updated.
Change Log:
-Removed the Irritating Psychotic Sound Environment
-Custom Music
-Fixed Some Skill Damage

jim7777 · Nov 9, 2009

I have found some trigger-script glitches/bugs:
3rd Skill of Zidane (If I'm not mistaken its Spinning Kick) deals poor damage.... not more than 150 not less than 20. And sometimes, when Zidane's Trance are casted with this skill, your dummy unit is being shown.... Try to remove them by simply uncheck the Worker from the Unit Classification from the dummy... And please.... in the spinning camera motion of the PvP Start, try to do something about it like just 2 rotations would be ok because in my case, it spins all around the map edges..... and i press f1 repeatedly but since... it takes time before f1 command is working......

I think your sounds come from the Final Fantasy IX of Ps1 .... I think I have a more clearer version of the sounds... which is the boss and the other one is for wild monsters.... but just include the descriptions as well as a more improved leaderboard... if you can....

Btw.... Please, Add more skills to idane because he has many skills in the FF IX... in every sword/daggers and the likes.... Models are also great...

Keroberoz · Nov 10, 2009

thnx for the comment. i guess i will improve the leaderboard, camera and the skills of zidane, but zidane will be completely imbalance if i do that. >.< he has a thievery skill that if you use steal regularly, the thievery will be a 1 hit KO :grin:

. yes, my sounds came from ff9 in ps1.

. and the sound i upload is less than 400kb.

matudele · Nov 10, 2009

here is a bug no one mentioned, inside the path to ultima wepon you fight satyrs that revives the dead bodys of the fallen monster, when you kill the monsters the satyrs revive the dead body and then another one appears from nowhere, this is bad if you use aoe spells wich kill a large number of monster, the satyrs revive the body and 2 appear, and they keep doing it over and over and over again till game gets too laggy to keep playing.

jim7777 · Nov 11, 2009

thanks for the bug fix..........

I would like just to suggest about Garnet / Dagger's Summon. I think in FF IX (if I remember) when Dagger trance is used, it change into Eidolons with more power..... and... if you can, try changing Shiva into a white Death Prophet of the undead or the Sea Witch.... because the model looks like icy like shiva's. And of course, Summoned gods cannot be controllable and automatically cast a skill.........

Just a suggestion

And your AI? Is that simple triggerings..... because I am not very good at making an AI

arphax214 · Nov 12, 2009

can you resize the models a bit make it a little smaller?other than that add items like personal weapons for each hero...

Keroberoz · Nov 12, 2009

arphax214 said:
can you resize the models a bit make it a little smaller?other than that add items like personal weapons for each hero...

there are already personal weapons for each heroes.

. in the middle of two fountains in the bottom of the map, there's a secret shop. you can buy personal weapons for each hero there.

.

@jim7777
yup, AIs are simple trigerrings.

. my AI is a bit stupid.

Keroberoz · Nov 15, 2009

oh. i have a mistake in yuna's summon valefor. the skill must be energy blast, not ultima. >.<
wrong input. >.<

jim7777 · Nov 15, 2009

And please....... in your AI....... please let your AI Choose other heroes because its simple yet it chooses the same heroes always........

And for the AI again....... There is something odd....... They can Buy items even if they are too far away from the shop...... thats unfair

Keroberoz · Nov 15, 2009

hehehe. ok. i'll try to let the AI choose other heroes.

yup. they can buy even if they're too far. XD. ok ok. i'll try to change it.

Keroberoz · Nov 25, 2009

Updated

change log v1.6:
-equipment system
-items
-zidane skill bug fixed
-item prices

knight26 · Nov 25, 2009

i cant play the map? any ideas why?.

Keroberoz · Nov 25, 2009

hm? why? do you have a latest version of warcraft?
or else.. redownload it.

there was a bug. hats cannot be equip. i'll fix it as soon as possible.

Keroberoz · Nov 26, 2009

Updated

change log v1.7:
-fixed head equipments
-demi added to black magic
-kuja flare star added and demi removed

UPDATED

Change Log v1.7b:
-There's a great lag when you are using flare star of kuja so i optimized it a little bit.
-Summon abilities have same ID orders with the equipment. So i changed them

STABLE MAP

only working for versions 1.20 to 1.23

UPDATED

Change Log v1.8:
-Spell definition complete
-New Hero Genesis Rhapsodos
-Computer AI tomed down
-Computer AI player name changed

tell me if its working or not.

Gecior · Nov 28, 2009

Map doesnt work for me

The_Shadow · Nov 28, 2009

THIS version does not work

FrozenFenrir · Nov 28, 2009

its probably still for versions below 1.24....which sucks
pls fix that =(

AsXurian · Nov 28, 2009

Gecior said:
Map doesnt work for me

Yeah the map doesn't work for me, not even on single player

.

Does anyone have a single idea why it won't even bring up the teams listed?

FrozenFenrir · Nov 28, 2009

Keroberoz said:
only working for versions 1.20 to 1.23

maybe its because of THIS?
looks like he didnt change it to 1.24 for some reason

The_Shadow · Nov 28, 2009

but the versions Before this one work
lol?

jim7777 · Nov 28, 2009

Yes .... the old versions are working on 1.24...

but this version does not.....

And also.... Why you do not change the Trance Icon? They're the same throughout the heroes that have the Trance Ability which is the Icon Zidane while trancing.....

And a little suggestion...
For Dagger's Eidolon / Summon, why are they being controlled? its kinda odd because in FFIX they are not being controlled and their damage is always AoE....

And for Dagger's Eidolon / Summon again, when Dagger trances, the damage of this ability is still the same.... just nothing happened

Keroberoz · Nov 29, 2009

>.< still doesn't work? sorry for that. i guess it is only working for wc3 patch 1.20-1.23. i've updated my war3 patch to 1.24 and the FF Fight v1.6-1.8 didn't work. but the older versions work. i try to edit the map with the world editor but it has 16000+ compiled errors. i don't know what to do now. >.<.

Keroberoz · Dec 4, 2009

No special update.
just changed the terrain and make this version work for war3 1.24

Gecior · Dec 4, 2009

Yeah thx now works for me!

Tank-Commander · Dec 4, 2009

Good to see it's working again, however i did find one problem:
When you go into the top right area, how are you meant to get out again?

Keroberoz · Dec 5, 2009

oh. i forgot that.

i'll fix it asap.

sorry for that :grin:

reason 3 · Dec 8, 2009

Map Review

This review is made by reason 3, if you have any questions or anything else to comment feel free to Private Message me.You may also ask me to review your map again.

A generally nice Hero Arena map, different than the other due to its spells and heroes.

[+]Your map file size is big, but i guess its totally fine cause it has very nice models and spectacular spells.I liked them!
[+]You also have an Arena system, picking one player of each team with the most kills.You also use 1st person camera in the Arena.
[+]Your idea was good, i also liked the imported custom music.
[+]Your map was protected but i didn't notice any lag in game, even when many spells were casted.
[-]You could improve your description, your tooltips and certainly add more game tips.
[-]Map was completely unbalanced, i tried it out with a few heroes and i can say that some of them were overpowered.
[-]A shop called Mr.Speedy had "green icons".This means you didn't import the DISBTN file of the icon, or you imported them wrong.
[-]You only have a few items, and most of them are the same common items found on every map, like potion of healing etc.
[-]I find your terrain lacking, you could improve it for sure.
[-]I would call the AI more than stupid as i had about 60 hitpoints it had full and it was afraid of me, once it saw me it run away.You need to work more on it.

Overall rating:2/5
In my opinion this should be approved if you are willing to work more on it.My suggestion would be to improve your terrain, add more items and maybe a recipe system.And by the way you could also improve the AI.
~ r3

Keroberoz · Dec 12, 2009

the items were removed in able for the map to work on war3 1.24. i remove most of the items because it didn't work but its working the patch 1.20 to 1.21.
but, thnx for the suggestions. i appreciate it.

keattong91 · Dec 29, 2009

when will the next update be?
when i kill ultima weapon once. he just disappears. is this a bug?

FrozenFenrir · Dec 30, 2009

wow.
congrats to the new terrain.
that was a very big improvement compared to the older version =O

krisserz · Dec 30, 2009

Pretty nice, but I think you should allow for example player red to set number of needed kills, because once the game ended, when I was just on 8th lvl...

Albtraum69 · Dec 31, 2009

First of all, really great map, especially the models are perfect.
The terrain theme was also a nice choice, but still a little bit open for minor improvements.

I agree with the post above me, some host options for red like setting game skills or even some special kind of modes would be a nice improvement.

The spells were also amazing and fitting to each character in any way, but theres also still some space for improvements, i just want to mention donalds blizzard, somehow wasnt really useful compared to spells of other heroes.

Overall a great map, where i would love to play a "longer" version, with the already mentioned chooseable kills, and maybe even more spell levels, and spell level customization (like adding side effects to a few spells, besides dealing damage of course :thumbs_up:

)

Keep the good work up 4/5

jim7777 · Dec 31, 2009

nice 1 Keroberoz...

Are you from wc3 Garage?

Because you have a similar username there

But My Ratings Now:
3.5/5 -
*Try making the Camera on the Duel a little higher, I cannot see the opponent because its a little bit too low.
*You could use some tools to add frames or create DISBTNs for the items
*Cloud's skill always stucks, when sometimes used, Cloud is stucked in the air permanently...
*I guess you improved the leaderboard

*New Heroes . Nice

... Not still downloading the latest version. But nice improvement!

Keroberoz · Jan 1, 2010

thnx for the comment.

yeah. i'm the one from wc3 garage and wc3 unlimited too.
i have already fixed cloud's braver.

screamosilence · Jan 5, 2010

this map is really nice.. the models and the terrain are nice.. except for the leaderboard which covers like 20% of the screen if ur playing full house.. maybe u can make the camera a lil more higher.. nice spells btw.. when i played it in full house it was kinda laggy for the whole game espcially in clashes.. but over all its good and i enjoyed playing it eventhough im not a FF fan ^__^ keep it up and im hoping for more updates

Astrix · Jan 30, 2010

Keroberoz this map is dead?? or r u working in the new version???
hehehh

Keroberoz · Feb 1, 2010

i will update this one nxt week. i have added items and new heroes.

Astrix · Feb 7, 2010

keroberoz u have changelog of 2.2???

OblivionOathkeeper · Feb 7, 2010

The models are COOL!!!Could you please tell me where you got them,specially Noctis and the KH characters.

Keroberoz · Feb 10, 2010

Change Log

Changes from v2.1:
-New Hero: Roxas and Noctis
-New Items
-New Bosses
-New Terrain
-New Secret Hero: Tonberry
-New Creeps
-New Commands
-New Set of Skill for Zidane
-Change Zack's Octaslash effect

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