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Comments on Profile Post by deepstrasz

  1. Arowanna
    Arowanna
    Hammers and sickles weren't allowed, a pleb was the second best thing.
    Aug 11, 2019
  2. deepstrasz
    deepstrasz
    But where's the antinatalism in communism and bolshevism?
    Aug 12, 2019
  3. Arowanna
    Arowanna
    Depends on perspective and application, I guess. The means to ensure less suffering for all or to ensure the complete annihilation of all Earthly life.
    Aug 12, 2019
  4. deepstrasz
    deepstrasz
    Ah, so that's where totalitarian politics come in?
    Aug 12, 2019
  5. Arowanna
    Arowanna
    If that's the goal, sure. I wouldn't roll with it however.
    Aug 12, 2019
  6. deepstrasz
    deepstrasz
    I am trying to figure out the relation between the sickle and the hammer and antinatalism.
    Aug 12, 2019
  7. Arowanna
    Arowanna
    Seeing how they both - in thought and ideal, not necessarily in people’s actions - boil down to limit the suffering of all people, it shouldn't be too hard.

    But if you only look at the chaos that Russian styled communism caused however; such as Leninist Vanguardism, perpetual revolution/war styled Trotskyism accompanied with Central-South American styled revolutionism and et.c. Sure, it'll be hard to see.
    Aug 12, 2019
  8. Arowanna
    Arowanna
    And no, I'm no apologist for the shit stained century that was the 1900's, but I refuse to accept that we should accept rampant capitalism - near anarcho-capitalism - as the only "worthy" economical principle to pursue.

    I refuse to accept the status quo just because it "works". I refuse to accept that this is the end goal, the "peak" of humanities efforts. Because if this is the best we can do, then I do believe the Great Filter will do its hypothesized work and put an end to our existence.

    Of course, the anti-natalistic misanthropist that screams somewhere deep down in the bowls of my mind might actually consider this one of the better outcomes. Thus, embracing our self-destructive manners might be the quickest way to alleviate all suffering in the long run.
    Aug 12, 2019
  9. Arowanna
    Arowanna
    And just to remind you; I'm human. I'm filled with contradictions and flaws, just like every other wingnut out there.
    Aug 12, 2019
  10. deepstrasz
    deepstrasz
    Limit the suffering of all people? Are you purposely blind? Some might be happy, but many won't. Also, brainwashing happiness is putting lives in limbo not actually realistically reducing suffering. Why even live as a robot worker? For what? While the ruling party has its capitalist way?

    Communism doesn't work. It's not only an utopia but a toilet cleaning one.
    We will most probably not reach 0 suffering or any sort of utopia but we can get very close to creating equal chances for everyone.
    Aug 12, 2019
  11. deepstrasz
    deepstrasz
    And I refuse to live in a the Matrix type world. I'd rather not exist at all, not just be dead. I don't care what others want. It's their problem. But that doesn't have to include me too.
    Aug 12, 2019
  12. Arowanna
    Arowanna
    Read again; in thought and ideal, not necessarily in action.

    And again, I'm not a apologist nor am I blind to the horrors of Mao, Stalin, Ho Chi Minh or whomever else you want to bring up.

    And I won't force you. Heck, I don't even have the willpower to try.
    Aug 12, 2019
  13. deepstrasz
    deepstrasz
    I also refuse to just live on the rules of others. Whose life is it anyway?

    I read it. I am referring to what it means to be equal from a realist point. It means gaining less which means slower if not worse progression.

    But honestly, in theory and maybe even practice, what works better than lousy Marxism is Indian Religious Philosophy of ahimsa. However, for that to be fully undertaken we would all have to be celibate which obviously would lead to humanity's extinction.
    Aug 12, 2019
  14. Arowanna
    Arowanna
    Jain's and Hindu's are pretty death metal at times. And it's not too uncommon to see Jainism pop up in anti-natalistic thoughts and ideas in general.
    Aug 12, 2019
  15. deepstrasz
    deepstrasz
    With the difference than only Jainas are atheists.
    Aug 12, 2019
  16. Arowanna
    Arowanna
    And who said that anti-natalists have to subscribe to theism, atheism or anti-theism? :P
    Aug 12, 2019
  17. deepstrasz
    deepstrasz
    Hindus are not anti-natalists. Hiduism is a syncretism of Brahmanism and Buddhism. It's not a well defined religious philosophy.
    Aug 12, 2019