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Comments on Profile Post by HerrDave

  1. Hazop
    Hazop
    Goddammit, I was literally just downloading them..
    May 20, 2019
  2. HerrDave
    HerrDave
    I'll send them to you directly, no need for your project to suffer because my archive burns.
    May 20, 2019
  3. Hazop
    Hazop
    Thanks!
    May 20, 2019
  4. HerrDave
    HerrDave
    More models have gone.

    - Gandalf the Grey
    - Gandalf the White
    - Boromir
    - Rohan Rider
    - Erkenbrand
    - Theoden
    - Theodred
    - Sauron
    - Troll Bonecleaver
    - Troll Stonehurler
    - Gondorian Swordsman
    - Dwarf Axethrower
    - Dwarf Throwing Axe (Burning and non-burning)
    May 20, 2019
  5. Hazop
    Hazop
    May I ask why?

    Breaking site rules???? I don't see how.. But I feel like I can tell that this is confidential..
    May 20, 2019
  6. HerrDave
    HerrDave
    They all, in one spot or another, had skins that started as rips from War of the Ring.

    I made them x4 larger, added detail and refined them so they would fit in with WC3, and rearranged them to fit the new mesh.

    Unfortunately, it seems that my attempts to preserve War of the Ring by bringing them into HD and Warcraft 3 are against site policy.

    Unless something is 75% different, it is classified as a rip and therefore isn't allowed. Which quite nicely defeats the entire purpose of uploading these. :(

    More models just went
    - Saruman (White)
    - Saruman (Chromatic)
    - Ice Block
    - White Hand spell
    - Pestilence spell
    - Giant Spider
    - Shelob
    - Warg Rider
    - Orc Slasher
    - Orc Bowman
    - Ranger
    - Uruk Hai Warrior
    - Uruk Hai Bowman
    - Uruk Hai Warleader
    - Troll Daywalker
    - Gondorian Swordsman
    - Gondorian Archer
    - Gondorian Worker (Not good enough to keep)
    May 20, 2019
  7. Hazop
    Hazop
    Damn, that's unfortunate... Can you still use them in your projects though? Or is that also against site policy?
    May 20, 2019
  8. HerrDave
    HerrDave
    Oh I can use them in my project, sure - I'm just not allowed to upload it anywhere :)
    May 20, 2019
  9. Hazop
    Hazop
    Phew, well ok then. I thought your project might have been doomed just now..
    May 20, 2019
  10. HerrDave
    HerrDave
    Couple more models were taken down.
    - Goblin Spearman
    - D&D Rogue
    - Orc Defiler
    - The False Kaiser (me)
    - O'Connor the Spy
    - WotK Scientist
    - Questioner
    - Whitecloak
    - Myrddraal
    - Nazgul Lord
    - Cargul
    - Cargul Lord
    May 20, 2019
  11. Hazop
    Hazop
    D&D??? Whitecloak, Questioner?? Scientist and Kaiser? I though this was WOTR specific.. I hope this dosent extend any further...
    May 20, 2019
  12. HerrDave
    HerrDave
    Oh no-no-no-no-no-no

    I'm on the chopping block right now :)

    Wrath of the Kaiser infantry models might be next, since their faces are edits from Freedom Force - which will bring the death toll up from 44 to 107
    May 20, 2019
  13. Hazop
    Hazop
    (Oh ffs....)
    May 20, 2019
  14. Ether
    Ether
    Fucking site rules make the models section very stagnant and backwater and soon or later, hive will become xgm. And yes, demotivates more modellers like you. Those of your models are not supposed to be deleted because those are 'models' and how the fuck they must be gone because of skin rips. Why don't they make models and skins rather than chopping of models in hive? See, models section is almost dead and super overacting and unrealistic rules make it deader. -_- I am really triggered and angered by this news.
    May 20, 2019
  15. General Frank
    General Frank
    @Battleborn you are mistaken.
    Xgm has more easier rules for rips than Hive and does allow rips to be posted. I would not say that xgm got stale, they just branched off into more than just wc3 modding. That thinned their userbase for the w3 stuff sure, but that's just how things go.

    Also, I don't think you would be interested in the whole Hive being taken down because we host ripped material from other games, right?
    Rules are there to make the every day ongoings of the site easier for everyone and to make sure that the site can still exist.
    But who am I talking to, right?
    May 20, 2019
  16. Anglo Warior
    Anglo Warior
    I'm quite sad to hear this. You're one of the better modellers on this site.
    May 20, 2019
  17. Ether
    Ether
    @General Frank - but the whole models themselves are 100% made by hand by Mr. Herrdave right? Despite the accused ripped textures, I think admins could consider keeping them (substandard or some place be) as of not losing a top modeller or maybe not discouraging him from doing his stuff and not losing the 'will' and 'energy'? Or for the sake of the effort for shaping the resources he made, the time invested. Well, this is really sad.
    May 20, 2019
  18. General Frank
    General Frank
    @Battleborn I agree, but rules are rules.
    The thing would have been much easier if he said that the textures were taken from other games. A clear declaration would not have been a hard thing to do and EVERYONE would have welcomed the honesty.

    And knowing HerrDave would not be so easily discouraged. That's for sure.
    May 20, 2019
  19. Ether
    Ether
    @General Frank - Well okay if those are rules, then so be it. However, everybody or in majority, I think, even those guys who made the game (if I am right, abandonware?), will lightly and easily allow him and accept the said ripping of some portions of textures. Or... he could just edit his post to declare the textures are not made from scratch and so the stuff, models themselves can be saved, safe and sound rather than ordered/forced deleting a large number of them.

    Let's hope Herrdave would not cave in and hope him regards with high energy.
    May 20, 2019
  20. General Frank
    General Frank
    No one directly ordered these models to be removed, you know.
    May 20, 2019
  21. Ether
    Ether
    Oh, he said he is acting under orders of hive staffs and will be taken down permanently etc etc, that is what I thought earlier based on what was said. Well, I know you will not at least let those a big ton of models be gone somehow, since you got the power to keep stuff there and power to trash them too.
    May 20, 2019
  22. General Frank
    General Frank
    Honestly, everyone makes mistakes. I know you did and I have had a few in the past.
    The art in it is how to deal with it. It has been dealt with poorly and this whole thing blew up, because people like you make it a much bigger thing as it actually is. You should always consider on what grounds you say what things. If you say things that are against the very thing you are standing in, maybe you are one being totally wrong...
    May 20, 2019
  23. HerrDave
    HerrDave
    "People like Them" are why I stick around, General Frank.

    Ralle himself said I did well to remove the ripped content.
    If I am a thief, as you say - what business do I have to keep them, especially when they affect your image?

    This has killed both my War of the Ring revival project, and Wrath of the Kaiser is next for the noose.
    May 20, 2019
  24. General Frank
    General Frank
    Yes, those people who scream the loudest, contribute the least and are not aware what the circumstances of the situation are. Yes, 'those' people.

    Don't make yourself the victim here, please.

    I know it is hard to remove good work, but you had plenty of time to get things straight and you did not.
    You said yourself that you are a thief. All I said was that you didn't care to say you did rip them. That's all.
    I am sorry it 'killed' your project, but I honestly do not care.
    May 20, 2019
  25. Hazop
    Hazop
    Didn't you say you could still use the resources? Just not have them posted? I don't see how just not posting them could kill your work. Or am I miss-understanding?
    May 20, 2019
  26. HerrDave
    HerrDave
    I can't upload the models
    &
    I can't upload my map(s) because they have the same models in them
    May 20, 2019
  27. Hazop
    Hazop
    Well that's absurd... At first when you said you could still publish the maps I was relived. But hearing this I feel like they've gone a tad bit too far..
    May 20, 2019
  28. KILLCIDE
    KILLCIDE
    Okay I wasn't going to make a comment until I saw this misleading post. First off, no one in Staff told you to take down anything; you took them down yourself before we even finished our discussion. We said we would restrict your models because of an agreement we have with Blizzard, so this literally has nothing to do with you personally. Second, we have already told you that you can still upload your project, you just can't upload the standalone assets. Stop spreading this nonsense and causing unnecessary drama.
    May 21, 2019
  29. Hazop
    Hazop
    Confusion: 100
    May 21, 2019
  30. HerrDave
    HerrDave
    The 2nd half is news to me, which I'm glad to hear.

    The 1st half I challenge.
    I'd like to hear exactly what Ralle thinks should happen, or should have happened.
    May 21, 2019
  31. KILLCIDE
    KILLCIDE
    Quoting Ralle directly from the thread:

    "Legally I think it might still not be allowed for us to host so it's probably more safe to restrict it."
    May 21, 2019
  32. HerrDave
    HerrDave
    Is there a way to make the thread public so anyone can see it?

    I can't fit my response in here, but I think people would be quite interested in seeing it there in-context.
    May 21, 2019
  33. KILLCIDE
    KILLCIDE
    What benefit is there to making it public? There's a reason why the thread is hidden. I had only made a comment because you're painting such a wrong image about how the whole situation is being handled.
    May 21, 2019
  34. Ralle
    Ralle
    I will respond in the thread after work or during if I can’t focus on work because of this unfortunate situation.
    May 21, 2019