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  • I'm aware of what he was attempting to say (though I remain in disagreement with the sentiment) but I also see no room for ambiguity in debate so I took what was said in terms of what was literally said if nothing else but to promote being clear (potentially also to oust any extreme opinions), though the "ISIS as an atheistic organisation" was an extrapolation of the logic used and applied further - if those who commit an act are "atheist" then by extension those who employ those acts can also be considered "atheist" (atheist being in the sense of what he intended) or moreover, that's the kind of thought pattern I expected/thought they might have on the matter and I wanted to see if that was indeed the mindset.

    Naturally I also took issue with saying they're "atheist" given that they're categorically not (and thus most of my post was guided from the direction of don't say people are what they're not) even if atheist in his mind means somebody who fails to follow allah's will (and thus them being atheists to allah) I'd argue it's fundamentally misleading, particularly to those who wanted to come into the discussion

    tl;dr yeah I knew what he meant, needed better phrasing
    Can you please add links to the contest and entries and what they will be winning?
    I tried making a worker unit by transferring some animations. The problem now is I just dont know how to add the lumber and the gold sack. Plus some animations need some tweaking.
    Yep, though if I manage to actually convert the animations to work as an mdx is the exciting part :grin: I'll put up some work in progress if I succeed, else I'll put some intended function :grin:
    Thanks for the encouragement :) that's pretty much how I'm gonna start doing it but I'd like to spend some time on animation as well so I have a bit more freedom with ideas.
    Yeh I have a few WIP unit models but haven't spent much time getting good at animating so never finished anything. Funny you should ask though as I'm just starting a shamon model I hope to have done soon.
    As someone who has altered some wc books into playable campaigns I can say the best thing they can do (in my opinion) is to do what's best for the movie. If they need to change things they should do so.

    As far as we know there are many things intact. The locations, the conflict, the races, the characters, the look, even weapons. I think as fans we already get so much stuff (recent talk was there was even going to be a Leery Jenkins cameo, but cut before shooting the movie). That's so much more then, let's say Resident Evil, which had some locations, the general zombie outbreak, and some names from the game.

    They could have taken a different route: Imagine there was no Draenor and orcs had been living in Azeroth all this time. Imagine there was no Doomhammer, Durotan or Llane but a bunch of other guys that, might have had some similar characteristics, but were different people. Imagine there was barely any characterization for the orcs. Maybe it was all about a powerful artefact that would turn all orcs to stone or some bullshit like that, and then they would have the nerve to call it Warcraft :D

    What I won't be happy with is, for example, if Doomhammer's armor is indeed missing and there is no proper reason. But that would be just a detail. Something bigger that would annoy me: A drawing showed a floating Dalaran; If that's true it would be irritating.
    As far as I know a retcon is only a retcon if it breaks established continuity. The GoT series continuity has no effect on the GoT book continuity. They only have the same basis (as far as I can teill).

    As far as we know the WC movie and games (including books and comics) are different universes.

    Better example: Spider-Man is shooting web from a device in the comics, and from hands in the movies (Sam Raimi's universe) => No retcon. Sam Raimi's Spider-Man suddenly shooting web from a device, and doing as if it had been like that all the time in the movies => retcon.

    But hey, I could be wrong and a retcon doesn't depend on the universe.
    Not sure i made that quite a long time ago, will check it out, if it dont have one, i will make one
    Well, it would be quite a challenge :p
    I might see what I can whip up this weekend. Would give me a better idea of whether it's possible in two weeks.
    First of all, we do not like them promoting themselfs WE do not restrain them from opening a shop,from attending a school,getting employed(there might be cases when a homophobic person can do that but they are very few) so they are equal with us they have the rights to own something,get employed,to speek,to go to school as well as promote themselfs but most of population is intolerate towards that so in a sens we are restraining them in this field but it's not such a big fuss they still can attend election and do other political stuff.

    I did not say they are STRANGE or Different they are humans to they have feelings too.
    I called their sexual behaviour unnatural not strange or different so please don't mix things up.

    If you are refering to the post in which i stated "We are talking about gay(man on man) people"

    the reason why i was doing that was due to the simple fact that the debate i was caught into(which had no connection to the main thread) was about gay male and male stuff.
    If you are asking Why lesbians do not get bashed that much ?
    Well maybe first due to the perversity of the male brain,but in a sens i do not like lesbian as well. why lesbians are different from gay males?

    Well lesbians have lower risk from getting infected from STD that Gays who do not use condoms.
    Here are the results of a study done in America(2010) for people diagnosed with hiv/aids

    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/images/web/msm_hiv_cases_graph_2014.jpg

    MSM-Stands for Man who has sexual behaviours whith another man

    as you can see male on male sexual intercourse posses a higher threat than the lesbians so in a sens Lesbians are slightly different from gays.Their sexual behaviur does not posses such high threat of STD.
    As you can see Lesbian woman diagnosed with HIV/AIDS are almost inexistent
    Is it bad to be intolerant towards gays publicity? I don't think so.


    While there are some people who take it to far by humiliating even killing gay people i am not from those type of people nor most of Albanians.We just don't tolerate promotion of homosexualism,such as manny other countrys in the world thats all.
    It does.It shows why peope here do not like gay people.One of them buchered their familys for 45 years.
    Don't belive anything that internet says.
    We have approved the gay marriage rule like 4 years ago (can't really remember when)
    Some additional info for you to consider

    -I come from a country whome was once labled as the only country who banned religion.(for 45 years) so religion has nothing to do with my views on gay people
    Our comunist leader was well known as a bottom homosexual guy who killed all the people who dared to raise the voice agains him or his homosexual acts so it is not like Albania has no experience with homosexual people.The gay marriage is allowed here as well
    About age:I may be a little imature but still i wont allow anyone to say that i spread hatred when i am not doing so
    I'm still around! Pushing versions of AtD out once every 6 months or so. Just modding for the fun of it these days. I appreciate you taking notice!
    But it's true that if your mother (but not father) is a jew, you are considered pure jew or something, but if it's the opposite, you aren't?

    But really there weren't any better countries to choose than Israel?
    If you notice, now this fuss about homosexuality makes furios especially orthodox christians, catholics a bit less, while protestant and true atheist don't care at all.

    About predisposition, Israel is very strict regarding this, you must have certain jewish roots to be eligible to have their citizenship. For example, I watched some documentary lately about Berezovsky, he could get asylum (or how is called) there because of jewish roots. But how they define how 'jew' you are? For what I heard it 'transfers' by maternal side. I guess if your greatgrandfather was a jew, you are no more eligible.
    Not knowing english isn't a bad characteristic. Furthermore I had orthodox christians in mind, if I'm not mistaken you are a jew, since you are living in Israel.
    Then you are one of the few. And you aren't even living in Russia, of course you must know english then. That's the truth, bigger countries are less likely to know english (even smaller ones if USA unfriendly). That includes Russia, China and Japan.

    And that was one of less offensive parts of the post. I wanted to be direct, how the things stand.
    BROWSER CLOSE-DOWN!
    HARD DRIVE FAILURE!
    COMPUTER DESTRUCTION!
    HOUSEFIRE!

    Just my luck. :p
    Hey, no problem. I just realized I was back to "obsessively checking THW for news" : ), and didn't want to fall too far, so I waited a week or so more & decided on a gentle reminder.

    Looks really schweet! And I'm glad I've been superseded by something more applicable to Real Life. : ) I'm here.
    Yeah I would have guess that is the case.

    Well, if you think this might happen in the future what I'd suggest would be either stating 'Rules are subjected to change at any time as the moderators please.' or 'If there's less than X amount of contestants then "this" will be how the rewards are given." or something like that. That way at least nobody can complain about it since there wouldn't be any loophole in your terms and conditions.

    As of now it is, if I may, 'illegal' in some sense as it was not covered in the 'terms and conditions' when I 'signed' the contest by means of submission of my model.

    Basically, it's more like that the first post didn't specify that if we didn't have enough contestants we'd be having our rewards constricted but it's like an invisible rule that you have just made up yourself, and I quote:

    "If such a thing is unacceptable by the current two entrants, or if no one is interested, we will proceed to the judging phase, without a public poll, and determine a winner, with slightly restricted rewards (no award icons, for one) to both the winner and the runner-up. "

    It's like buying an insurance and after you look through the papers, you agree to their terms. But when it really comes down to it, suddenly you're expected to also know of some other rules that was not stated in the paper.

    It's just a matter of deception which I dislike. I personally don't mind the extension.
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    I can see the similarity, although this one is from World of Warcraft.
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    If that is true then maybe WoW i mean Blizzard have get the inspiration from Halo to make this weapon.becasue the blade reminds me on the halo alien blade.

    Mesh[c]As stated above, the clincher is the spider. My biggest intentions are to have something made that is sufficiently different from the regular, in-game Spiders; if I wanted that I'd just (learn to) use Retera's MatrixEater & stick two models together. : )

    One of the most simple/obvious parts that will set it apart, I think, is the head. A big 'tarantula'-style head (see some of the artwork above) with giant dripping fangs & pedipalps would be great. I'm hoping to use the hidden Spiderling icon for it, so something akin to that?

    Past that.... I have yet to determine exactly which is best. Regular-spider legs (i.e. thing & spindly) or tarantula-style (i.e. big, thick & hairy)? Abdomen-size (anything from "small as head" to "massive bulbous web-spinning thing")? Etc. Surprise me, I guess?

    I'm kinda a fan of a sort of "chair/saddle" thing (or at least, a sort of "back-plate" as you see in one of the above images. Spida Webz!)..

    Weapon could perhaps be a small-ish magic truncheon?

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    Now, if for whatever reason you are reluctant to use the aforementioned Troll Conjurer as a whole piece, feel free to start modeling some kind of cool, creepy Troll (see this pic, mayhaps?), and then take some of the cool bits from -Grendel's (the mask, the pauldron, the staff?). And, if for whatever reason you are reluctant to use it at all... Well, I can respect that. Just trying to save you some work. Let me know what you come up with.[r]
    Anims[c]Let me know what you feel capable of. The simplest thing would just be stapling the Conjurer on a Wc3 spider (changing mesh but keeping anims (of course, can't have the spider's "Spell" anim; waving his abdomen right into the rider :p).[r]
    Textures[c]I'm all about in-game textures... But you already knew that. And it's what you do, anyway. : ) I'll leave this up to you; I trust your judgement.

    Let me know!
    Ha, so much for "tomorrow"... Man that took me too long. Sorry. :<


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    Well, what are the specifics? I had a concept in my mind for a female spider-witch of some sort. I thought I'd let you know in case that fits your criteria.
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    Let's get one thing straight; you put a Troll on a Spider & I will almost certainly use it. : ) There just isn't anything even remotely like that lying around for me to be picky-&-choosey. xD

    That being said, I have written up some stuff...


    [insert Pastebin stuff]
    Ha! Turns out I had nothing written up. Hilarious; I fool even myself. Well then.


    Welp, looks like I'll just have to write it from scratch...

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    JUNGLE TROLL - T2 Offensive/Disruptive Caster - "Hexxer"
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    The original idea is simply "Troll cavalry-caster", i.e. "Mounted Troll Wizard". I just thought it'd be cool to see a cavalry-caster. Upon reflection (& with raptors & bats already taken), I decided upon insects... And what better insect than a creepy jungle spider?

    Further reflection revealed the need for an anti-caster <span style="font-size: 9px">(like the Destroyer, Faerie Dragon, Spellbreaker, etc)</span>, as well as a generally 'offensive' caster to counterpoint the existing "Potion Doc"s 'supportive' nature <span style="font-size: 9px">(like Sorceress to Priest, Witch Doctor to Shaman, Banshee to Necromancer, etc)</span>.

    With some luck, I happened upon the "Hexxer" concept; an gnarled, wicked Troll priestess riding a creepy jungle spider, wielding spider-themed spirit-powered anti-magicks. " 'Welcome to my parlor' said the spider to the fly" and all that.

    Later, in looking at the Techtree, I realized my distaste for the name "Potion Doc", and with AnemicRoyalty's excellent model being ideal as she is, I realized I could instead switch genders & have the support caster be a girl; a "Hedge Witch" if you will (much better name/concept IMO).

    However, since that's the model I was going to use as the spider's mount... I needed a new one. This means the Hexxer became a guy (*sigh*. Kinda like the role-reversal of a non-nurturing woman-caster, but oh well). I eventually decided upon -Grendel's stellar Troll Conjurer model as a fitting mount for the nasty jungle Spider.

    ~

    Hopefully that gives some insight into the process. The important bits are:
    - Male Troll (preferably); creepy, wizened, malicious
    - Jungle Spider; creepy, jungle-y, big, DIFFERENT FROM REGULAR WC3 SPIDERS somehow... Big head mostly
    - Dark Magicks
    - Some kinda seat?
    - Some kinda mage-weapon?

    And really the most important bit is the spider: Like I said, I already (basically) have a good Rider, and the rest is relatively simple. But a good, creepy Jungle Spider that looks/acts different from the in-game ones... Haven't seen that anywhere,

    On that note:

    [table]
    Theme[c]A nefarious shaman of dark spirit magicks, mounted on the back of a creepy jungle spider. Fickle and crafty, the Hexxers power through swampy landscapes on eight surprisingly quick legs, hunting down enemy mages and generally creeping people out. They can utilize their mount's natural toxins to Mind Poison enemy mages, draining their mana, as well as the poison's reparative effects to Disrupt the buffs of chains of target units. Master Hexxer's can even place a Null Ward, completely disabling spell-casting in an area.[r]
    Role[c]This is a Frozen-Throne-style response to mass-casters; basically just the Jungle Trolls "anti-caster" unit, who is himself a caster. He's not got a strong attack, but being mounted he's not as slow as other casters.
    [/table]
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