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Heinvers
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Heinvers — Arena Moderator

Discord tag DZEE#7025 for chat., Male, from EU

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    1. Razosh
      Razosh
      The bible may be more correct than we thought when it said the lord is my shepherd.

      [IMG]

      So what have you been up to?
    2. The_Legion
      The_Legion
      Oh I'm doing great. May I ask how you're doing this day too?
      p.s. may I know the thread wherein I can change my username
    3. Paliouras
      Paliouras
      In the chat.He quoted it too.W8 do you mean ghostwolf wants to put an end to the cookie regime?
    4. Paliouras
      Paliouras
      Damn :( Yh ralle send me a warning for bashing you know whom in chat
    5. Paliouras
      Paliouras
      Did you get a warning too?
    6. The_Legion
      The_Legion
      Hi Heinvers ^0^!
    7. Kyrbi0
      Kyrbi0
      Wait, what? Where in my post did that assumption come from? All I have asked you is "why". :<

      Moreover, for someone to so blithely ignore my contribution to this discussion is generally considered quite rude. Would you mind at least answering my question; I've attempted to show the same thoughtful respect that I desire from others.
    8. Paliouras
      Paliouras
      Mah reply is ready
    9. Darkfang
    10. Paliouras
      Paliouras
      Hahahahahaha andreas new post
    11. Zed
      Zed
      Me and Lord Cakey missed you. <3
    12. Mythic
    13. Death Adder
      Death Adder
      |
      | The grill down below took it way to big.
      V
    14. chobibo
      chobibo
      Useful when you are pestered by a talkative bunch:
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    15. Zed
      Zed
      I missed you :(
    16. Zed
      Zed
      Lord Heinvers why did you disable your VM?
    17. Aisha Mizuki
      Aisha Mizuki
      (* ̄0 ̄)●ゞ i will considers it laters

      (^ ^ ♪
    18. Mythic
      Mythic
      Oh, okay. :3
    19. bhusta
      bhusta
      Thank you Heinvers! May the wurst be with you, too.
    20. Kyrbi0
      Kyrbi0
      Sorry it took me so long; things have been crazy-busy. But I didn't forget. The Gurubashi nevah forget. We nevah forgive. :D


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      I hope I've made myself clear Kyrbi0.
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      I'm not quite sure you have, see below.


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      There's no real issue around. I've clearly stated my own rule about modifying custom made resources.
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      Yes you have. That's not the issue, nor is that my question; the issue & my question revolve around "why" that is the rule you have mandated. What is the reasoning behind this decision?

      You began to respond to the true question here:

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      No, I don't hate custom resources.
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      ... But failed to elaborate as to what the reason is.

      It looks like you again began to do so here:

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      It's the artist's right to say no to their resources being modified or tainted and I'm inclined to respect that!

      ...

      As a terrainer I use a lot of custom resources for my works and such I tend to credit the authors of those particular resources I'm using and I understand all the hard work they've put into them. So I particularly grew to have a high respect for their work and Not mingle with their modifications too much. That's why I've pointed out that NO member of my workshop would ever try and modify custom icons or skins.
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      I too have been using loads of custom resources, and have nothing but the highest regard for artists & their creations. You can see this in my posts & attitudes on the forum these last few years, and (eventually) in my finished products (where I plan on including some extensive "Credits" files).

      With what you have said above, though, I could understand (though would still debate the matter) if you had said "NO EDITING CUSTOM STUFF WITHOUT PERMISSION" as a Rule. It only makes sense; if an Artist doesn't want their resources 'modified' or 'tainted' (as you say), respect that. I do.

      However, you seem to think that all artists feel that way. On the contrary, I personally know of artists that would ask people to modify their resources. Many others are ambivalent or neutral, merely requiring users to ask them for an easy "yeah, sure, go ahead". Ultimately, most artists love to see their works used and, yes, even modified; this is because it means their resources are being used more & more widely.

      So basically, what I'm saying is this. Take this (highly-plausible, In My Opinion) hypothetical: I find a Resource I want modded, and the Artist says "Please feel free to Edit/Modify this, as long as you give Credit". I download the Resource, put their name in my Credits, and realize I need it slightly Modified (lol, probably Forest -> Jungle Troll, knowing me).
      I take it to your Workshop, and you are saying "No: I refuse to allow this to be modified on my workshop because I want to respect the artist's rights." ... When the Artist used their rights to allow free modifications.

      Does that make sense as to why I'm asking "why" and why your previous answers were unclear?

      Respectfully,

      Kyrbi0
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    July 20th 2016 - Aug 6th 2017 was a fun time :]
    Thank you all for bearing with me during that period.

    May 2018 - Welcome Zero Tolerance 2.0
    June 2018 - ZT 2.0 Ty bloody bonkers.
    July 2018 - November 1st 2018 - Real life.
    November 1st 2018 and onward - Resurrecting the dead.
    December 2nd 2018 - December 16th - I live once more with Naze in the Arena.
    December 16th 2018 and ongoing - Kekistan support.
    January 1st 2019 and onward - at it again.
    May 21st 2019 - the Arena overhaul, ongoing Kekistan support.
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