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Chaosy
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Chaosy

^ What the hell is this perverted weeboo trash? ^, Male, 22, from Sweden

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    1. DD Mikasa
      DD Mikasa
      Who's Denna?
    2. Shar Dundred
      Shar Dundred
      Accurate too, yeah.
    3. Arad MNK
      Arad MNK
      Dunno what my problem was, an error I had never faved before. Pastebin paste failed :s
      28mb is not a lot right?
    4. Shar Dundred
      Shar Dundred
      Yet another day, yet another time seeing SF and Chaosy discuss things.
    5. Shadow Fury
      Shadow Fury
      Alright, you seem to be obstinate to keep this going on.


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      They are not different.
      Person X doing something == person Y doing something
      Fact remain that you (the creator of the project) did not do it.
      There is no debating the truth of this.
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      What?? You don't even know what you're saying.


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      I took the sound of a youtube video which I did not make.
      How many sounds in any map are made by the creator? in 99% of all cases, none.
      The default sounds are made by Blizzard and requires no effort for the user to use as they see fit. They are allowed to do so, obviously, but it's not something they created. Just like the sound of the youtube video that I did not create.
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      So what if the sounds are not created by him? The game mechanics, the triggers, the ideas, the custom object editor data, the main idea etc... are all his. These are 95% of the efforts put in any map. You can have models, icons, sounds and godlike terrain pre-made, but if you suck at triggering, creating custom data and your idea is cheap and/or unoriginal, you will NEVER create something good. This means some efforts must be done to create a good map. You have the equipments and the materials: now use them to do something new and great.

      Additionally, in a cinematic, what is counted is the triggering (very few done in your case), the story (not yours) and the dialogues (not yours either). You own nothing substantial of that map, and as long as you don't understand that, you will never accept the idea of the no rating. You keep saying other maps are similar to yours, but what the hell? Do you even read what you're writng? Days, weeks, months and maybe even years of working on maps to create everything important in it (again, that's gameplay, triggers, custom object data) can be compared to copying a video in about a day?? Come on, open your eyes. It's exactly the illogical argument you're bringing up.

      You lost your mind at some point and kept spamming nonsense that holds no weight. Get your sanity back, please.
    6. Arad MNK
      Arad MNK
      ~Uploading to Pastebin
    7. Shadow Fury
      Shadow Fury
      If we were to apply this logic, all maps would be either "not rated" or rejected.
      Your logic is full of flaws, but explaining it would also lead to nowhere.
      Comparing "someone doing a terrain or some triggers" to "copying an entire video" in terms of efforts already explains how absurd your statements are.
    8. Arad MNK
      Arad MNK
      Heyo, I see you are creating another cinematic, therefore this is a good time for me to advertise my "Simple Cinematic System" (vJASS). If you are interested, VM meh.
    9. Shadow Fury
      Shadow Fury
      Wait, are you serious?
      You're trying to convince me that if I gather ideas in the idea factory (but the basic concept is still mine) and import some resources (because not ALL those stuff you mentioned will be done by others), I did almost nothing in a map?
      In addition, teamwork in a map (someone makes the terrain, some spells, triggers etc...) is perfectly fine.
      Please just don't say absurdities in the hope that they will back up your statements.
    10. Shadow Fury
      Shadow Fury
      Proof?
      I don't see I've been inconsistent in my moderation.
      And specify these x,y and z so that I can understand your concerns.
    11. Shadow Fury
      Shadow Fury
      *went to sleep*

      Well, this is getting nowhere. I'm not going to repeat myself again, I'll leave others to back me up.
    12. Roland
      Roland
      Alright got it thanks
    13. Roland
      Roland
      Choasy, Why are you accusing me? I don't even wanted to have all these Full piece of rubbish reps and all the admin data and I'm really not a hacker, Just a designer..
    14. Shadow Fury
      Shadow Fury
      Iceborn ---> The author produced the sound acting.
      Gaias ---> It's from 2009... rules were like non-existent then.
    15. Shadow Fury
      Shadow Fury
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      Bring it. There is no requirement for linking everything used in a map.
      As I said if you tell the others that argument I am going to link at least 50 maps that do not do that, no kidding. Maybe more just to prove how stupid that argument is.
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      If it were a "resource", I'd surely overlook that, but if it's the video you're copying, then it's mandatory to give a link to it. No problem in that I suppose, easy as pie.


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      I did not do the majority, no doubt. But once again, no one does if you really look into it.
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      What are you saying? I don't know what you mean precisely with that, but I'll answer to it based on my interpretation.
      Importing custom resources does not mean you are not doing the majority of your map. The authors still put efforts in inserting all the complex triggers, creating the terrain and shaping the gameplay. These are what count most, yet in your cinematics, I cannot see that at all :/

      I told you, a 4/5 or 5/5 can't be awarded for copying someone else's idea. Nothing of your own produce is present except the black terrain and some basic triggering. If the sound acting were yours, your map would've gotten for sure a rating.


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      Go open some decent 4/5 map and tell me how much work they really did.
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      I don't understand the point of this. Anyway, these people have done their maps without copying 100% others, that's what counts. Also, I don't trust moderations before 2014 as the rules were not applied and there are some suspicious no ratings out there so if you select maps from these times, it would be fruitless.
    16. Shadow Fury
      Shadow Fury
      You're spinning around yourself with some nonsense and just nitpicking every word I write, but to no avail. What's the problem of including the original videos in the map descriptions? That'll make sure you're all right with the rules first of all, which is now a new issue.
      The thing is you take some sound acting that is not yours, take an idea of someone else, create almost no terrain and snivel about getting an approval with no rating. That's so ridiculous, let me tell you that. Admit it, you nearly did nothing. All the positive comments you received are for the original video, not for what you did. The ratings received are all thanks to someone else's work, and you still pretend me to rate that 4/5 or 5/5? You ain't thinking straight then...
      The no rating will still be discussed in the Reviewer's Reserve.
    17. Shadow Fury
      Shadow Fury
      You literally torn them off the youtube and slammed them in the World Editor as they are.


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      Also I don't need their permission.
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      Yes, you do. The sound acting is not yours (which is the only focus of the cinematic), nor is it your idea creating them. What's exactly yours then? Your maps are merely clones of the videos, and I cannot give a rating also for that reason. But let's assume the author is inactive or doesn't reply (mainly the reason I approved the map). The original creator may not like the idea of you taking all the praise for what he created himself since you did not even give a link to these videos. Why don't you? If there are original youtube versions, you should have no problems mentioning that. You must say you are not the one behind the idea of these maps. That's mainstream and mostly common sense.


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      And why I choose to upload them has nothing to do with you giving them 0 rating.
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      Explained above and in my other messages why it got "no rating".
    18. Shadow Fury
      Shadow Fury
      So you want some rules to get convinced? Ok, here we go:
      So basically you only copied two videos from youtube, put them in the World Editor and called them "your creations". According to our rules, you need to get permission from the original creators before even uploading them, but why then? They are already on youtube and we do not need them as a map. This means you should be thankful they've been approved because I'd have a reason to reject both for copying someone else's work.
    19. Shar Dundred
      Shar Dundred
      As I said:
      Go and kiss each other already. Many, many times. That should bring peace. d:
    20. Shar Dundred
      Shar Dundred
      Exactly!

      Probably. Speaking of which... Where the hell is my popcorn?
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