The End of the World

[Darkness-4ever]

Now lately everyone's been hearing more and more about 2012 being the year that the world ends via cataclysmic disasters worldwide, alignment of the planets causing some razzmatazz on Earth, or some other event of equal impact.
However why should something like the end of the world be decided by some (mis)interpretations of an ancient Mayan calendar? So heres the topic:

How do you think the world will end?
What date? Who will live/die? Is there anything that can be done? And ofcourse the most important thing: Whats going to happen to cause the end of the world?

My bet will be the safe one, world ends when the sun scorches it while becoming a red giant, and ofcourse utterly destroys it in the supernova afterwards.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Can't you wait till May 2012? Jeez.


Edit: In my opinion, doomsday scenarios were always assets to control people in the past, but since commercialism appeared on the scene, it's now a "BUY NOW!" issue. Computers will freak out and the world will end at the date 01-01-2000? No problem, just buy item x and stock up, you'll survive but we still have your money.

2012 coming? Sure, for a million euro's you can have a reservation on a giant ark-like ship which will be only stuffed with rich people and no labourers, sounds familiar 'ey?

 

[Phoonix]

The world will not end. we humans will as will many of the living creatures. however things will grow again.

 

[AIagremm]

I dont think that something will happen in 2012, it doesnt make any sence.
However it isnt 2000 or 3000 year, so it sound at leats a bit realistic.

The end of the world will not come in 2012... not yet.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

I can feel a spam forum starting - how come every time a millennium comes, or some "secret code" comes in a date (I'm sure some people thought the world was going to end on 6 - 6 -2006 too), or some ancient author writes something in indecipherable riddles or an ancient calender runs out everyone thinks the world will end.

In common with the other Mesoamerican civilizations, the Maya had measured the length of the solar year to a high degree of accuracy, far more accurately than that used in Europe as the basis of the Gregorian Calendar. They did not use this figure for the length of year in their calendars, however; the calendars they used were crude, being based on a year length of exactly 365 days, which means that the calendar falls out of step with the seasons by one day every four years. By comparison, the Julian calendar, used in Europe from Roman times until about the 16th Century, accumulated an error of only one day every 128 years. The modern Gregorian calendar is even more accurate, accumulating only a day's error in approximately 3257 years.

 

[Pharaoh_]

It sounds too fictional to be true. Sorry, can't second a life with the hope of dying.

 

[Mulgrim]

stop whining and accept you will all die eventually

 

[Snarewave]

stop whining and accept you will all die eventually

Wise words.

 

[Textor]

I can now imagine the minutes to the day where the world shall end , people counting down , then nothing happens and all "Damn , again nothing! 2012 wasnt the year"

 

[Kwanz4]

The whole thing about 2012 is retarded. Maybe the guy who was making the calendar died in the process--maybe the ran out of room.

But if the world was giong to end, this is what would happen:
Everyone gets HIV, which turns into AIDS, and we all get the swine flu and die within a week. Happy day

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

According to the Mayan calender the world has actually supposedly ended twice already

 

[Phoonix]

NO you are wrong. according to Mayan calendar a natural disaster of HUGE catastrophe has happened already, and there are evidences of that. the calender doesn't predict the end of the world it just predicts a natural disaster.

 

[Just_Spectating]

and whatever happened to the year 2000?

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

and whatever happened to the year 2000?

There's always year 3000 - people thought that computers would fail because they couldn't recognize the year, even thought they've only really been around about something like 30 years (something like that). I would think people would be able to plan ahead 30 years.

NO you are wrong. according to Mayan calendar a natural disaster of HUGE catastrophe has happened already, and there are evidences of that. the calender doesn't predict the end of the world it just predicts a natural disaster.

There's been many huge natural catastrophes - (Hurricane Catrina, the Tsunami a couple years back, the Black Death, the Meteor that killed the Dinosaurs, just to name a few).......



Ok, look at it like this. The Mayan calender was integrated into their religion. If your going to think that the calender predicts the end of the world or a huge catastrophe, you might as well convert to their religion (forgot it's name though).

 

[Mulgrim]

there were more than enough retards who swallowed that thing too, as in spending thousands of dollars on supplies and bomb shelters, and be laughed at by co-workers that literally pissed their pants on Jan 1st, 2001. best morning ever.

end-of-the-world dates until the next century:

2000 - Lol.

2006, june 6 - lot of people didn't like 6/6/06 showing up on their calendars

2012 december (21st?) - mayan end of calendar because the spanish came in and pwned them all (with guns!)

2018 - failed dates unite! 2000 + 6 = 2006, + 6, 2012. Another 666.

2032 - asteroid or some shit, this time we really are fucked (I think.. ) but the technology necessary will have long been created.

More fail still to come.


but be realistic here, nothing will happen, it's retarded that you're choosing to believe people who used primitive tools to predict fail dates, chose a swamp land to establish civilization, and are now 2nd class citizens IN MEXICO. get over it.

 

[Vengeancekael]

2032 - asteroid or some shit, this time we really are fucked (I think.. ) but the technology necessary will have long been created.

Believe me, until Jupiter exists, then the earth won't get hit by Asteroids or whatever. And come on, who would simply believe that in 2012, the world would come to an end, it's ridiculus! I believe that human kind will survive until the sun explodes, which will be perhaps in 1.000.000 years.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

No.

/thread

 

[Garfield1337]

Mayan calendar ends at 2012..so what? they never mentioned it's world's end,it's just end of their time calculating system.
I've also read somewhere that when their previous calendars ended,nothing special happened,mayans even celebrated that time as entering a new era.

 

[Just_Spectating]

the 6/6/06 this was really retarded.

what about the 6/6/06 that happens every hundred years?

 

[Belgarath]

Can't you wait till May 2012? Jeez.


Edit: In my opinion, doomsday scenarios were always assets to control people in the past, but since commercialism appeared on the scene, it's now a "BUY NOW!" issue. Computers will freak out and the world will end at the date 01-01-2000? No problem, just buy item x and stock up, you'll survive but we still have your money.

2012 coming? Sure, for a million euro's you can have a reservation on a giant ark-like ship which will be only stuffed with rich people and no labourers, sounds familiar 'ey?

WHERE DO I BOOK?!??!?!!!! SIGN ME UP!!

but yeah has anyone thought about the fact that the calendar people might have gotten bored, died, gotten altsheimer / other diseases all that kind of stuff
basically like will said
no

 

[BSWhunter]

there were more than enough retards who swallowed that thing too, as in spending thousands of dollars on supplies and bomb shelters, and be laughed at by co-workers that literally pissed their pants on Jan 1st, 2001. best morning ever.

end-of-the-world dates until the next century:

2000 - Lol.

2006, june 6 - lot of people didn't like 6/6/06 showing up on their calendars

2012 december (21st?) - mayan end of calendar because the spanish came in and pwned them all (with guns!)

2018 - failed dates unite! 2000 + 6 = 2006, + 6, 2012. Another 666.

2032 - asteroid or some shit, this time we really are fucked (I think.. ) but the technology necessary will have long been created.
.

You forget that swedish machine that was gunna create a black hole.
Oh and I think some russians are starting on the 2032 thingy allready.

 

[MortAr]

Too bad, I wanted to see how I would look like on 30

 

[The Reborn Devil]

Lol.

 

[mato2]

the world won't end before the sun consumes it, and as for the human population, if it get's wiped out it should be by means of zombie apocalypse.

 

[Darkness-4ever]

You never know, there are plenty of ways for the world to end other than those, such as a runaway star altering earths orbit or straight up hitting earth, or gamma ray burst. But I'm still stickin with my very first bet, since thats the only sure way the earth will be destroyed if by nothing else.

 

[Crazy Cow]

The whole 2012 stuff is just another scare story.
There is a very good reason that the Mayan calendar ends on 2012. There is a very rare cosmic event (once every 3000 years or so) where some stars align with the center of the universe. After this point, a very long cycle begins again, and in another 3000 or so years we will have this cosmic event again. Note the "cycle" part; it would be unnesescary to map out the path of the stars again after that 3000 year point, because you can simply refer to the beginning of the cycle you recorded. Therefore, the Mayans could reuse thier calendar after 2012 because the same exact selestial(?) events will happen again.
As for how it happens, Sarah Palin becomes vice presedint of the US in 2012. Self-explanitory.

 

[Boris_Spider]

Q: How is the world going to end?

A: People will end themselves (thus end our perception of 'the world')

Long Answer: A group of nutjobs will continually preach to a uneducated, triggerhappy flock who've their fingers on the "Make Big Boom" button.

"I know not what weapons WWIII will be fought with, but WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones"

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[Tleno]

Mayan calendar ends in 2012 just becauce of the mathematical cycle Mayans had end, just like Crazy Cow said. But thats not prediction or any "secret lore of ancient civilizations", its just that Mayans had an overcomplicated mathematical system.

Well actually what can be bad in the End of the World? Be optimistic, just like me!
Metheor Rain? At least we will see pretty fireworks!
Zombie Virus? People invented shotguns and Left4Dead not without a reason you know...
Earthquakes/Tsunamies/Tornadoes? We survived them before, we will survive them and later!
Nuclear War? Same as with zombies, only replace L4D with FL3.
Sarah Palin? Okay, this one is definetly bad...

 

[Darkness-4ever]

Mayan calendar ends in 2012 just becauce of the mathematical cycle Mayans had end, just like Crazy Cow said. But thats not prediction or any "secret lore of ancient civilizations", its just that Mayans had an overcomplicated mathematical system.

Well actually what can be bad in the End of the World? Be optimistic, just like me!
Metheor Rain? At least we will see pretty fireworks!
Zombie Virus? People invented shotguns and Left4Dead not without a reason you know...
Earthquakes/Tsunamies/Tornadoes? We survived them before, we will survive them and later!
Nuclear War? Same as with zombies, only replace L4D with FL3.
Sarah Palin? Okay, this one is definetly bad...

I went with the literal statement, technically Earth is a world, and our sun will destroy it, hence the world definitively comes to an end physically, same reason I called it the safe bet for the topic.

 

[Mulgrim]

global warming will kill us all

 

[AIagremm]

Actually scientist made a research. They wanted to know what would happen if zombies attacked, with ability to infest people. They found out that zombies can easily be defeated. The only thing people need to do is to get in big groups and surround the infested area.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Actually scientist made a research. They wanted to know what would happen if zombies attacked, with ability to infest people. They found out that zombies can easily be defeated. The only thing people need to do is to get in big groups and surround the infested area.

And now in practise, Einstein.

 

[Slaydon]

Hmm, Ppl think about doing things 2012 >, i watched tv the other day on National Geographic, and they said they expect a solar storm to impact earth and destroy all electricity, but if it happens, and everyone is so sure about it, why do ppl plan to do things like build a big city, sky scrapers, bla bla. in like 2015, 2050

 

[De.Facto]

.. Bullshit. Start thinking positive! (;

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Hmm, Ppl think about doing things 2012 >, i watched tv the other day on National Geographic, and they said they expect a solar storm to impact earth and destroy all electricity, but if it happens, and everyone is so sure about it, why do ppl plan to do things like build a big city, sky scrapers, bla bla. in like 2015, 2050

Electricity is energy, you can't destroy it (Isn't that one of Newton's Laws, might be Einstein's). Also Nat Geo is probably just playing off people fears to get people to watch their programming - it worked for the movie 2012. Just because it's on TV doesn't mean it's fact.

 

[YourNameHere]

Electricity is energy, you can't destroy it (Isn't that one of Newton's Laws, might be Einstein's). Also Nat Geo is probably just playing off people fears to get people to watch their programming - it worked for the movie 2012. Just because it's on TV doesn't mean it's fact.

Ever asked why you could transform energy into electricity?

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Electricity is energy, just another form of energy - so what type are you talking about?

 

[Boris_Spider]

If I understand Slaydon, by destroying electricity he was actually referring to the destruction of electronic devices. A large enough burst of radiation from the sun would fry everythinig electronic on at least a large portion of Earth. That means computers are worthless, any communication device is worthless, power plants are fried->no electricity. No electricity means my well pump doesn't work forcing me and all my neighbors to drink out of a polluted wannabe river.

Not to mention that machines make other machines, if producing machines are destroyed then produced machines must be hand made, which is almost not done at all anywhere.

We are heavily dependant on electricity, and without it our civilizations would fall. Don't claim your civiliaztion would be uunaffected because you're a '3rd world nation.' If you have access to this website via a computer/cell phone/other electronic device you're not 3rd world. They would be affected because a fair number of them are dependant on aid from the '1st world', however little and ineffective it might be.

//\\oo//\\

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Ahhh, so this is like another year 2000 series about how all our Technology will fail on us

why do ppl plan to do things like build a big city, sky scrapers, bla bla. in like 2015, 2050

You know its not impossible to hand build the tools to produce - they had to start somewhere. It's not like the knowledge of how to build a Car or even a hammer for that sake is limited simply to machines.

but if it happens, and everyone is so sure about it

That's the thing, if everyone was so sure about some huge burst of radiation happening, then we would have already started preparing. I imagine that Scientists are chalking this one up similar to the theory that the universe itself is going back in time and sabotaging the large Hadron Collider.

 

[TwistedImage]

I didn't read the thread because I'm lazy, I just read OP and most of page 1.

The world will not end in 2012. Heck, the world won't end until a ginormous (yes, ginormous) meteor hits it.

Humanity and most living things that aren't adaptable will all die within 100 years, that's my bet. The world won't, though.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Humanity and most living things that aren't adaptable will all die within 100 years, that's my bet. The world won't, though.

Everybody seems to think that Humanity will die out because it's not adaptable. Isn't humanity perhapes one of the most adaptable complex organisms on earth? Humanity lives year round on every continent in every form of climate on earth (except for Antartica, where Humanity does stay, just not year round). I would say that's pretty adaptable, unlike other creatures which can only survive certain climates or only feed on certain foods.

100 years

100 years is actually a very short time frame. You may even live to be 100

 

[TwistedImage]

Everybody seems to think that Humanity will die out because it's not adaptable. Isn't humanity perhapes one of the most adaptable complex organisms on earth? Humanity lives year round on every continent in every form of climate on earth (except for Antartica, where Humanity does stay, just not year round). I would say that's pretty adaptable, unlike other creatures which can only survive certain climates or only feed on certain foods.



100 years is actually a very short time frame. You may even live to be 100

1. Stop assuming things about me! I very well realize that humans are among the most adaptable creatures on Earth! However, I also realize that while humans are intelligent, they still do things which a deer would realize is dumb.

2. Stop assuming things about me! I very well realize that a hundred years isn't much! That is exactly why I said a hundred!

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

1. Stop assuming things about me! I very well realize that humans are among the most adaptable creatures on Earth! However, I also realize that while humans are intelligent, they still do things which a deer would realize is dumb.

2. Stop assuming things about me! I very well realize that a hundred years isn't much! That is exactly why I said a hundred!

Don't lead people on to assume things about you that you don't want people to assume about you.

they still do things which a deer would realize is dumb

Actually a Deer wouldn't realize many things are dumb because a deer doesn't examine things humans do in depth. A deer has a simple philosophy, if there's a human/predator nearby, run. If there's food nearby, eat the food but be prepared to run if there's a human/predator nearby.

2. Stop assuming things about me! I very well realize that a hundred years isn't much! That is exactly why I said a hundred!

Well your going to be pissed because according to this I can assume your pessimistic.

 

[TwistedImage]

It really is hard to piss me off! No, I'm not pissed, but neither am I pessimistic; I prefer "human-hater" as a term. ^_^

A deer wouldn't indeed! That's my point! A deer doesn't have superiority complexes, therefore, the deer runs if a predator is nearby! A human, on the other hand, could think "I've watched TV so I can sit on that crocodile's mouth and lock its jaw."

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

A deer wouldn't indeed! That's my point! A deer doesn't have superiority complexes, therefore, the deer runs if a predator is nearby! A human, on the other hand, could think "I've watched TV so I can sit on that crocodile's mouth and lock its jaw."

Well here's the distinguishing thing:
-Every deer you see will react predictably, if it sees a predator it runs.

-Different types of Humans react differently:
-There's the TV idiot as you described
-There's the Hunter how already had his 12 gauge with him
-There's the Scientist that would only observe at a distance
-There was Steve Erwin (hope I spelled that right) how would tackle the thing and
piss it off.
-There's the semi idiot that would throw rocks at it until it starts chasing them

Not every Human is going to react the same way, let's just hope that your not the TV idiot

 

[TwistedImage]

Yeah, point is, humans are more likely to die to crocodiles than deers. ^_^

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Yeah, point is, humans are more likely to die to crocodiles than deers. ^_^

Not exactly, only the Stupid humans are likely to die. That's natural selection for you, and it shows up in deers as well - they just have less variation in thought process

 

[Darkness-4ever]

Get back on topic, this is about how the world will end, not how stupid human beings are (and if your excuse is that is the point, human beings being stupid = end of the world very soon THEN WE GOT YOUR MESSAGE MOVE ON!), and for the record not every electronic device would be destroyed from a solar flare's EM hitting the Earth, they can be detected, and the way to prevent the flare's from completely short circuiting electronic equipment is simply turning their power off, course this would likely piss a ton of people off at the same time so who knows, however that wouldn't be the first time A solar flare EM wave hit Earth and fried a region's equipment, but there might be a Major solar flare to do so sometime in the future that could cover a greater area.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

So we can only talk about your preferred choice of Apocalypse? Surely stupidity could bring about the end of the world just as much as a solar flare.

 

[Darkness-4ever]

I was addressing solar flare idea not enforcing it, and the point about "stupidity" of mankind = end of the world was already made, I just don't want 10 pages of two people going back and forth saying Humanity is Stupid vs. Humanity is Adaptable!