Sonic Adventure Wc3 Campaign

modler2 · Feb 8, 2008

Hello,

We've been thinking that our thread needs to get more organized and informative. So here you go. Now you can catch up on the whole project in just the first post.

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What Inspired Us:

modler2 was the projects original founder and I (Zerox) have since joined him as co-head developer. Really the thing that keeps us fueled to make this map is just that we're both really big Sonic fans and we want to bring our favorite thing to WarCraft and share it all with you.

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People Working on Map.

modler2 - Triggerer / Object Editor / Images / Story Writer / Model Creator
Zerox - Model Creator / Triggerer / Animator / Object Editor / Story Writer
Airandius - Main Terrianer
Void - Finalizing Terrain
Kave - Spell Creator / Physics System Designer
RedSonic - Model Assitant
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Models : These Models are by us for our project. When we release the campaign the models will soon afterward be released to the public.

Sonic, Xaster, And Shadow Models By modler2 skins by Dan Van Ohllus:

Knuckles By Zerox:

Hero and Dark Chao Made By Ice:

Chaos 0 Made By Zerox:

Eggman:

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If you wish to contact us then just pm us at the hive or at WC3 Unlimited. We have the same usernames here as we do there. Or just post here in this thread.

Want to Help out ? Or Do Your Part For the Map ?

If you have something that you would like to offer to us that you think would be helpful, contact us or post here.

Trailers (In order of Newest to Oldest):

New Physics System

Christmas Trailer (Story Line Preview)

Introducing Xaster

Level 1 Preview

Xarwin · Feb 9, 2008

The beta has some nice basics and is looking pretty good.
I hope this map gets improved (what possibly will happen).

I will check for future updates on the map

Dr Super Good · Feb 9, 2008

Well, good try but it seems insainly buggy.

The sonic model's walk animation scrapes its feet too much on the floor. It looks like it is skating (like shadow the hedgehog) more than running.

Sonic is too slow. Even in the "Sonic the Hedgehog" for the nex gen systems did sonic not run that slowly.

Sonic seems to be able to "fly" in the footage as he was randomly gaining and losing height as he went off and on clifs.

The system lacks "badies" and "hazzards" (falling).

Sonic grinding on the rails was horridly buggy, as he started to fly off (above) the rails showing a lack of basic phisics.

The bouncers were overall too slow and sonic started bouncing without touching them. Also the pathing messed up on some of the bounces.

Sonic seemed to keep being deslected, which would be really irritating to 95% of players.

Overall needs a lot of work for it to become a real wonder.

modler2 · Feb 9, 2008

Dr Super Good said:
Well, good try but it seems insainly buggy.

The sonic model's walk animation scrapes its feet too much on the floor. It looks like it is skating (like shadow the hedgehog) more than running.

Sonic is too slow. Even in the "Sonic the Hedgehog" for the nex gen systems did sonic not run that slowly.

Sonic seems to be able to "fly" in the footage as he was randomly gaining and losing height as he went off and on clifs.

The system lacks "badies" and "hazzards" (falling).

Sonic grinding on the rails was horridly buggy, as he started to fly off (above) the rails showing a lack of basic phisics.

The bouncers were overall too slow and sonic started bouncing without touching them. Also the pathing messed up on some of the bounces.

Sonic seemed to keep being deslected, which would be really irritating to 95% of players.

Overall needs a lot of work for it to become a real wonder.

yes dont worry about enemy's were in the progress of making the system for enemy's and yes we have finiahs some models for them. were going to fix his walk after all every thing is still wip. I made the bounce system in a day along with the ring system so it was alittle rushed so ill take your opinion on them into consideration, and the grind rail i just odnt know what happened. im probly gunna delet untill i fix it.

ps. im goign to make it select him later on when im done with the major stuff but hey its still beta ^^ and as for the fllying i had another way but he moved way to slow.ill try to fix.

Kuhneghetz · Feb 9, 2008

I've got modler2's permission to make a new texture for the Sonic model, and now it's finished.
I have pm:ed him for the pastebin link.

I'll also upload some pictures of the model and a watermarked UV, plus a pic of some issues about the model.

Modler2: You really need to work on the UV mapping more. The Spike hairs and the hands were a curse to co-operate, and the parts between the head and chest have nasty splits. The nose has an odd wrap. Also, look at the last pic, where I marked on other issues.
I also spot some unnecessary amount of polygons on your model, both on the outside and in the inside.

modler2 · Feb 9, 2008

ok thank you very much dvo and ill see what i can do and as for sonic's speed he's already moving at the max limit of wc3 its just his walk anim.

Dr Super Good · Feb 9, 2008

Use triggers to enhance his speed via the "SetUnitX()" and "SetUnitY()" functions. Those enable you to move a unit without aborting all its current orders or messing up the pathing of it.

Also sonic's mouth was not lopsided out side of the pre rendered computer graphic footage. Well atleast in SA1/2 for dreamcast that was the truth (which is what this is named after).

Kuhneghetz · Feb 9, 2008

Dr Super Good said:
Also sonic's mouth was not lopsided out side of the pre rendered computer graphic footage. Well atleast in SA1/2 for dreamcast that was the truth (which is what this is named after).

I used this pic as a reference when I made the new texture.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/sonic/sonic.jpg

Dr Super Good · Feb 9, 2008

Like I said, that is pre renderend compter generated footage, where for some reason his mouth is always lopsided. In most 3D sonics it is always ballenced while he speaks instage/between stages.

modler2 · Feb 10, 2008

does it realy matter if he has a mouth? besides as long as the model and animations and dvo's amazing skin works

sk8er754 · Feb 10, 2008

Hey looking good modler. That is quite a bit further then my old sonic mod. Im putting all my time and effort into a new mod now so its up to you to bring sonic to wc3

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UchihaSasuke.gr · Feb 10, 2008

Why don't you make Sonic moves with up arrow and stuff like that?Also when Sonic jumps make it so you don't have to select him all the time.

sk8er754 · Feb 10, 2008

Theirs lag with the arrow keys, even playing solo offline. For a fast paced game, u cant have a second delay in pushing the button to move. But then u can always look at the grand prix map and say thats fast paced game and is on b.net but it was also done with a ton of jass.

BlinkBoy · Feb 12, 2008

Improve the animations, they look very unnatural and not really sonic like.

modler2 · Feb 17, 2008

Well im still working on it with some people and I have nothing to show yet only when im done completing the level with practicly no bugs so heres a little somehting. the original hedgehog is back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsnVNmpZ26U

HappyTauren · Feb 17, 2008

modler2 said:
lol idk about polys never have never will my sonic model is over 2k poly

are you crazy? also anims could've been better.

modler2 · Feb 17, 2008

nah im not crazy i just lost track then it looked to nice to say no

and also im gunna see if i can get some of them fixed bt for mean time i have to wait.

saio · Mar 26, 2008

pls after finishing the model release it and than you coud just change a few colors and allso make shadow the hedgehog
if you do that it will be great becose i need that 2 models and then I coud start a new map

allso I can help you whit your map
a specialy about the jump's

modler2 · Mar 30, 2008

he's done and i also have made shadow and im not going to realese it as far as i know of.

Teldrassil · May 8, 2008

Suggestion, on map initilization increase sonics animation speed by 300% and give him blue shiny animation effects, I'm not sure what they're called but they produce light and smaller versions of themselves that glow. Make it look like blue motion blur. The 300% animation speed increase will make it look like he's both running and spinning faster.

-Teld

good luck with the map.

modler2 · May 9, 2008

thanks for the support guys but it will not be finished my partner has quit and i cannot complete it on my own and due to this and the fact that i have no team for this projct im deeming it died untillsomething else happens im considering releasing what has already been created but im not sure yet.

Teldrassil · May 9, 2008

Well if you do I can take a look at it and fix it up a bit for ya, I have experience with arrow key trigs and what not.

-Teld

slawter · May 9, 2008

not good to hear.
i know a bit bout map making myself (i made a footie frenzy), but not campaigns.
hope u do finish it

modler2 · May 9, 2008

sounds good but i cannot finish it alone teld there are goign to be speed runing courses and it uses arrow keys and it does'nt like me, you in? if so tell me here and or pm me your msn so we can figure things out.

slawter · May 20, 2008

modler2 i could try and help with your map/campaign if you want.
if not can i be a beta tester.

Hargoth · May 21, 2008

This is a very good idea in my opinion, the only problem i have is memory! this damn laptop hasnt got enough space to make a word document lol

modler2 · May 22, 2008

pardon my off topid post just now but you could try delting files to create more space.

Kuhneghetz · May 23, 2008

Hargoth said:
This is a very good idea in my opinion, the only problem i have is memory! this damn laptop hasnt got enough space to make a word document lol

Delete some useless files and uninstall programs and games you never use. That would give you more space.

PrisonLove · Sep 12, 2008

I've been looking for a sonic model for a very long time now and i have to say that i really like this one, it looks amazing. I was just wondering if there was some way to obtain this model at all, I would of course give the proper credits and all. Thanks.

modler2 · Sep 13, 2008

lol sorry prison its only for this campaign sorry

ShiroiSenji · Sep 13, 2008

Very big fan of sonic, hope this game is good as the Adventure X2 =)

slawter · Sep 13, 2008

it won't due the different engines, but i'm sure it will be pretty epic =)

Grim · Sep 13, 2008

lol, you started this project like last year!
Even on one of your video you said you were abandoning it.
Either way, I'm please you're returning to it.

modler2 · Sep 19, 2008

lol the reaosn its been over a year is because i've been having family problems, my partner had to quit due to school problems i've just been very busy and lol ill try my best problem is with sonic adventure they wernt even close to as limited by the game system as i am xD

ps. prison i know but alot of people have already asked me they all get the same answer im not goign to make exeptions, there are only about 5 people in the world that have the model all of which are my very close friends so you get the idea

PureOwnage · Sep 19, 2008

If you were going to make this map, you should put...
More SPEED!

modler2 · Sep 19, 2008

lol already on it

so far its alot faster then in that vid lol but still uses roughly the same things but still plays nicer

and so far the first level is about 95% completed and the second is about 5%

slawter · Sep 20, 2008

how many levels are in there, btw are you adding you own levels which you've thought of?

modler2 · Sep 21, 2008

im thinking i might make 10 levels total, and yes there mostly my level ideas but some ideas are taken from actual sonic games

slawter · Sep 22, 2008

how many people are working on it?

modler2 · Sep 22, 2008

it varys on the time but 3-4 meaning there are times that we cant help cuse were very busy usualy 4 more could help xD and im still goign to need to find voice actors

slawter · Sep 30, 2008

also could you make another youtube videos, showing the improvement please =)

modler2 · Sep 30, 2008

im unsure of the releaee date yet and im in the prosses in making the first level 100% complete and finishing first cinematic for the game trailer

Mr.Goblin · Sep 30, 2008

well i don't know if it have been said before (sorry i haven't read all) but the only think i saw in your 2 video is the terrain... its WAY to flat.. and i think its sad cause it could be MUCH more better.. instead of only road etc..meeh.. i'm shure your already working on improving it..

modler2 · Oct 10, 2008

lol that was the "testing level" and yeh xD im trying to have something decent for terrain and theirs just like 2 bugs left in the first map fucking whale btw video is coming along now

ill try to have it finished as soon as possible but i have alot of homework this weekend so ... but ill try

EDIT:
sorry to double post but YouTube - Sonic Adventure WC3 also i know i made a typo and some glitches still its just i have no time currently so i figured meh just show em btw the whale part is still fucked up xD

gohan43 · Oct 13, 2008

I watched the vid (on my sis' comp) looks good! you need to add an animation to sonic to make him jump up or something at the end of the level (like he does in sonic2battle)

So until i ge my laptop back, what models do you need/want me to prepare to make?

modler2 · Oct 13, 2008

lol can you make knuckles? xD i need him for the second level xD

gohan43 · Oct 17, 2008

kay, when i get my laptop back ill do my best

BloodStorm2262 · Oct 18, 2008

Just wanted to say GL, this is a pretty big undertaking... Hope for the best, but expect the worst *never finished*. Again, best of luck! Video looks crappy, but good for a basic demonstration it definetly conveys the idea.

modler2 · Nov 3, 2008

lol good and bad news, bad news i stoped it again but good news is my friend zerox is going to be taking the project under his wing ill be helping him but its his now

ps. the sonic model is now on the hives model database

Zerox · Nov 3, 2008

Yes as he has said I'm now going to take over the project because I'm his friend and I don't want his brilliant idea to die. I'll do you guys proud I promise. And thank you so much modler for letting me take over the main part of the project so it doesn't die.

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