WotE v1.25

Moderator · Nov 16, 2008

15:07, 11th Jun 2010
ap0calypse: Approved

water_Knight · Nov 17, 2008

Here is what i noticed what changed from 1.0

When a base dies it stops the spawns
More Heroes More Items i think
A bit of balancing.

Here is what lse i think you should do

when a base dies make the creeps go all the wya roudn to the other sides enemys base otherise there is a jsut creeps going back and forward.

Make some of the heroes weaker Like Red i owned a game i was alona and other teams where full with him.

Add more items because the current ones are quite plane.

I will try find soem of the bugs but till then happy mapping

Hairy · Nov 17, 2008

ur aos has many bugs and faults.

first of all a 4 way aos dont work when u dont have enough player to push all lanes.

after defeating a race, the creeps go back and forth for imba gold if a player goes for it. or mega lag.

towers are weak need more range. main base dies to much and need more range.

put so bloody stop triggers in u cant kill ur own shit.

more heros plz,

creeps need to be a bit stronger becuse with the creep bug u can easily solo, heros need to be more balanced.

one of u items is buged the str(20) one and the bracer one because the do the opposite effects also u need way more items because these ones suck.

overall it fails a 4 way aos cant work. because u can push all lanes. unless u actually understand ways of makeing it work. which unfortunately u don't yet.

kelogsloops · Nov 18, 2008

Thnk U :d

THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTT ;D how did u get v1.0? o_o. that was funny

I know about the creep going back and forth but then i guess i just keep forgetting to do something about it but THX FOR REMINDING ME

ill fix it up asap!

ofc i will add more items,

lately my mind's gone blank and run out of ideas ;<

about the balancing im not really expert at that, so thats why i kinda need feedback but i get none so THANK YOU AGAIN

water_Knight · Nov 18, 2008

kelogsloops said:
THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTT ;D how did u get v1.0? o_o. that was funny

I know about the creep going back and forth but then i guess i just keep forgetting to do something about it but THX FOR REMINDING ME ill fix it up asap!

ofc i will add more items, lately my mind's gone blank and run out of ideas ;<

about the balancing im not really expert at that, so thats why i kinda need feedback but i get none so THANK YOU AGAIN

Warcraft 3 Maps - EpicWar.com has 1.0
all spells almsot the same jsut maby some might do 50 more damage with a 1 secodns longer cool down and all that it works real good
Well a easy way to maek all heroes balanced make them all hav

Um ideas ideas hmm

Sword of Forgoten Minds
Adds 12 damage and 4 to all stats

this item levels up so basicly when you get 2 it make a level 2 with 26 damage and 10 to all stats it levels up 3 times

kelogsloops · Nov 19, 2008

Ooh i like

about the hero damage idea. i guess your right

i tried to convince my partner to add a hero that isnt based on all damage spells but then it got turned DOWN!!

kelogsloops · Nov 19, 2008

water_Knight said:
Warcraft 3 Maps - EpicWar.com has 1.0
all spells almsot the same jsut maby some might do 50 more damage with a 1 secodns longer cool down and all that it works real good
Well a easy way to maek all heroes balanced make them all hav

Um ideas ideas hmm

Sword of Forgoten Minds
Adds 12 damage and 4 to all stats

this item levels up so basicly when you get 2 it make a level 2 with 26 damage and 10 to all stats it levels up 3 times

Hello im tempest writing this on kelog's behalf and me aswell >.>
we realize the changes we made throughout the versions wernt significant currantly we want to balance out the heros we have and items and fix any minor errors to make it more enjoyable to play for the time being whilst we work on the future versions.

also we have a website where we can keep track of all our data and its open to public because we want to get people involved in the map enjoy creating your own heros and items and also you will be credited in a way your more comfortable with.

we can be contacted through a E-mail- [email protected] or visit Log In and share your ideas with us

note we will try to include everyones ideas into the game but there will be a limit of how much of it we can take. as for the ones we turn down we might suggest things that you can tweek about your hero.

thank you by the way for reviewing our map it means a great deal to us :thumbs_up:

Hairy · Nov 20, 2008

sorry about my post b4 i was abit angry about something that day,

now if u want to make the map able to push serveral lanes here is a tip.

1, turn off bounty.
2, trigger the bounty

eg, so when and only when hero kills creeps or heros it gives gold to the player.

3, make the computer units into a players units.

now u can have another lane and one player wont get heaps of gold.

more info on the creeps back and forth.

u should make it they more in a clockwise position

so lets say im fire,

and i kill the base at top, then moves to water then to south.

if i kill south it will move to top.

if i kill water it will move to bot.

more info

so when the unit enters the final region they move to the next region. and so on.

bountygiver · Nov 29, 2008

I've noticed that while pushing, you can't switch between lanes, due to the mass of the trees/doodads separating them. This will limit the use of strategies, as you can't switch lanes easily, ambushes are hard to plan, and there is no where to run if you got ambushed. Try to make more paths in between lanes.

Oh, and one more thing. Actually it is possible to make use the 4 neutral players as creeps, and make all 12 players available for human control. That way you'll have an equal number of lanes and players.

Hero skills are quite lacking in my opinion, as many of them are directly ripped from standard wc3 skills. However, your terrain is quite nice and personally I liked it a lot. I am sure a certain amount of polishing, additions and balancing is all this map needs.

Good luck on your project.

kelogsloops · Dec 6, 2008

I've noticed that while pushing, you can't switch between lanes, due to the mass of the trees/doodads separating them. This will limit the use of strategies, as you can't switch lanes easily, ambushes are hard to plan, and there is no where to run if you got ambushed. Try to make more paths in between lanes.

Oh, and one more thing. Actually it is possible to make use the 4 neutral players as creeps, and make all 12 players available for human control. That way you'll have an equal number of lanes and players.

Hero skills are quite lacking in my opinion, as many of them are directly ripped from standard wc3 skills. However, your terrain is quite nice and personally I liked it a lot. I am sure a certain amount of polishing, additions and balancing is all this map needs.

Good luck on your project.

The switching in between lanes, i'd like to put in that idea but then i have to ask tempest about it. he's the one in charge

. and about the neutral thingies i'm not exactly sure about how it works, so that idea is hmmm.
yeah the skills are kind of basic, only a handful of them are unique and we're trying to upgrade

hopefully we'll be able to fix up those old abilities and become more unique.

Thanks for your post though!

TheBlooddancer · Dec 19, 2008

Off topic: Where did you get that image?
Or did you make it?

kelogsloops · Dec 20, 2008

My map partner, [EcHo]Tempest made it o_o why?

chenlimin · Jan 3, 2009

heros need balance.

kelogsloops · Jan 4, 2009

yeah i know D:

we really need testers to see what to balance and what to nerf D;

chenlimin · Jan 12, 2009

that lich I used when with you, it's ult was shit, channeling plus less damage than normal nuke....

kelogsloops · Jan 13, 2009

but thats not what his ulti is for

his ulti isnt a MEGA MOVE

it acts as a normal ability almost, its just an extra nuke, which can pretty mcuh be REALLY helpful

im planning to buff it up but yea

chenlimin · Jan 14, 2009

I like lich's idea, but maybe makes it stronger and a bit harder to play (just click X4 and see if other people lives)

kelogsloops · Jan 14, 2009

meh D; thers so many things to do atm :/

Joe-black-5 · Jan 29, 2009

good map but have you need to fix some problems:
-terrain is good but try to improve it
-some buildings like volcano you can walk through them
-Global experience is a problem in the map you need to fix this
-lots of imbalances in abilities of heroes
-hero description is creepy
-try adding something unique to the map to make it more fun to play
this map will get a 2/5 "for now" try to update it and don't give up working on it
good luck

kelogsloops · Jan 30, 2009

good map but have you need to fix some problems:
-terrain is good but try to improve it
-some buildings like volcano you can walk through them
-Global experience is a problem in the map you need to fix this
-lots of imbalances in abilities of heroes
-hero description is creepy
-try adding something unique to the map to make it more fun to play
this map will get a 2/5 "for now" try to update it and don't give up working on it
good luck

YES SIR!

i will make it llook UBER COOL
i know its becauses... ahh, im gonna find a new model for the volcano
global experience makes it easier to level though, making it a shorter game i guess?
yeah i know im working on balancing for 1.23b
hahahha how u mean its creepy?
I KNOWW D: I CANT THINK OF ANYTHINGG, got any ideas?

and THANKYOU SIRR

D.A.R.M · Jun 13, 2010

This game to be made playable on the current wc3 patch.

FrozenFenrir · Dec 15, 2010

as already mentioned, heroes need lots of ballancing, global exp is also a big problem.
quite an enjoyable map except for one reason which almost killed this map for me:

why...WHY on earth is the game over if 1(one) of the teams get destroyed? wtf? you dont have the chance to see which will remain at last?
i dont think anyone would like such a gameplay. please edit the win condition so its only game over if only 1 team remains.

EDIT: oh i almost forgot..why do all air heroes need 150 gold to be chosen??? wtf?
every other teams heroes are for free but the air heroes...

2/5
(actually 1/5 due to the fun destroying win condition, but im a nice one this time...)

i wont vote for approval until you made some better win conditions and ballance the heroes.

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