Very Good Game,
But you have a lot of lags,
Most likely from memory leaks,
Please fix them, it Lags in even single player.
Good Map,
Keep Working,
-Calvin

i've decided to remove the first person camera, it's leaks even when not used, and playing with first person camera isn't comfy

You Broke the Game,
The Newest Version Breaks spells so it always says "Can't cast here"
Also, Drunken Brawler doesn't work, Might want to look at that.
Please, Update Soon.

so sorry, but this version creates less lags, even heroes can't casts any spells

Lmao, xD
Yea, >w< No Spells Mean Like, no Game! xD
Even the Passive Spells sometimes do that. xD
I'm looking real Forward to an update. =]
Great Game!
Keep Working on it!
-Calvin

Judging from the comments, I think it's a common occurence, but it doesn't allow us to cast spells. Why?

just a little error, but a major bug, i will fix it soon...

As everyone else said, the memory leak issues are a major problem. When you finally finish your hero and enter the game, it also lags for a good amount of time before the actual game begins.

Other than that, some very good ideas. Cept' for some big balance issues with some skills being much less worth the investment than others.

I wish you had a website and forum so we could give feedback directly to you, but hey it's your choice.

I look forward to your next release.

Great AoS,
Where has he Gone?!
I'm waiting for the next Update of this grand AoS. =]
The Public is waiting! >_<
-Calvin

new version is out!!
did you all troubled with a lag that occurs after choosing faction??
When you enters the circle of power, the game will adds 2 of 80 leveled ability (weapon mastery ability)
And i don't know how to remove that lag

Just a notice: i triggered this map with GUI, i don't know JASS

=]
YAY New Version FTW!
Its a great map, =D
And yes, it was after entering the circle of powers choosing a faction, it would have a large pause of lag,
THAN teleport us to the faction, Did you use temp points? or Just the locations? ?
Great Map! I'm happy for the update!
-Calvin

When you enters the circle of power, the game will adds 2 ABILITY WITH 80 LEVELS (weapon mastery ability)

that cause a good lags....

this game has been checked by leak check at all parts and rated excellent (0 leaks), but it's still bit laggy

Ahem,
I am Back, after Trying it out a bit,
1.You Spelt something wrong in the loading scren, [Lmao, xD]
2.The Fel Orc Warlock is named Fel Orc Grunt?
3.I Went to take a shower, and I came back, The Game was in a MASSIVE Lag, I had to restart my computer.
I Don't know what caused the lag, but I Will do further investigation.
4.Activating/Deactivating Split Shot Changes your Projectile.
5.The 2 Warlocks in the undead place are strength based? Don't know if that was intended or not.

The error that breaks your game.
6.Item Commands don't work,
You can Still click on the button and it will bring up the menu, but you can't navigate through your Inventories anymore,
and all the buttons don't work, You have to click on your hero to get out of it.

>_<
Broken Once again, <w<
Great Game! Just, Gotta work on em bugs. xD
-Calvin

EDIT: I Understand, don't worry, Its worth it, Great game, =]

Thanks for the reports, this map is still far from excellence...
My Replies:
1. My english isn't very good at all,
2. Fixed, thanks
3. I recommends a mid-end PCs to play this game, but can you mention what hero, and what skills you've chosen??
4. Split Shot (Barrage) is an orb effect, so it's change projectiles
5. Undead Warlocks is strength based because they're muscular, and Dota's Lycanthrope is strength based

EDIT:
6. Another little problem... Fixed

Ahem, =]
I'm, glad it could help but,
I have a rather, eh, Okay computer, Geforce 7800, 2 Gigs of Memory, Dual raided hard drives, Ect.
but, I had chosen The Fel Orc Warchief.
Umm... Skills, Split Shot, Head Shot, Command Aura, And... That Ultimate Mirror image ones, I think thats it.

Its a Great map! =D
Keep working on it, It has Epic Amount of details.
My Favorite overall AoS map. =]
I had only time to try it for... 10 minutes playing time, 20 Minutes in the shower,
So I'll check out that lag, and Find more bugs to report. =]
-Calvin

I wrote Battle Tanks in search field and the first what I found was This map! Nothing to do with Battle Tanks! Really weak... delete catchers please!

Updated on 7 February 2008

Yay! =D
*Downloads and tests* =3
I'll Bug Report back to you when I Get the Chance.
-Calvin

Ahem,
I've noticed these but I Didn't say anything but,
The Crypt Lord, Fire Lord, and Orc Shaman are all agility based, shouldn't it be Strength, and 2 Intelligence Based?
Just wondering because that seems odd.
Also, the lag has returned, I Don't know why either.
But It started a lot sooner than usual.

Arrgh!! this is so annoying!! I fully checked all triggers in this map with leak check and it results nothing!! Wait for the next version, if the next version still lags, maybe i won't continue this map... (still maybe >,&lt

Nuuuuh!
This is a freaking GREAT map, >w<"
Ahem, I Have a few friends, being part of a mappers group thingie. >w<"
Hes god at GUI Triggers and has Some JASS knowledge too, >w<"
I'd Love for you to get this done.
But, Maybe, Instead of the loading of all them skills at one Time?
Have it load it over time during the start?
I don't know, Loading Cienematic? xD
Its a Great map, Trust me, The Terrain is so Awesome.
Keep Continuing with it!
PM if you want to ask anything, >_< I Got some Instant Messengers if you want to talk fully more. =]
Great Map. <3
-Calvin

This map is pure greatness, but would be more great if u in any way could REDUCE the lag...
Its pain in the ass, even my computer cant take it!

loading cinematics, it's a good idea, maybe i'll do that, some lags caused by tree revival system that i've taken from DotA template

i'm still noob at mapmaking.. >_<

Aww....
Nah, its a Great map, xD Also, I'm sure theres a leakless tree revival system.
Maybe, but the map is great as of now, you just gotta polish it up. xD
Keep Working on it!
-Calvin

is there everybody who played this map on LAN?? this map always makes the hero delays any issue that is given, when you play on single player, you won't encounter this problem, this is serious problem i think.. This problem also occurs when you play this map at multiplayer, even when you play it alone...

Is there anyone who knows how to fix this issue delay?? I really need it!!!

I Play on LAN All, The Time,
When I Test it, I Test with my Little brother, we both have,
a sticky note, and a pen, and write down stuff we see. =]
hmm... Issue Delay, what do you mean? When We Pick a side?
Or what not?

try 0.4b, when you issue your hero for doing something (move to, attack, cast spells) it will delays the order for a few second, the map will delay the issues after few seconds hero enters the battlefield,

the problem is solved,

the delays is caused by JASS damage taken trigger, it uses the Vexorian CScache, because before it uses cs cache (at ver 0.4) it never delays, now i'm using damage taken trigger that uses Handle Vars, and it results no delays, (no lags, also)

Awesomness. =D
I've noticed, the version, Where you had no Like Damage Display, But the spells didn't work,
There was no Lag Virtually, =]
Great! ^_^
Can't wait for the Update! x3
-Calvin

its so lag because of that flashing thingy above please remove it i can't play because of it to lamBhe the thing that at the top right or left you will see the Twinklecraft then next by lamBhe and the other one i don't know please remove it

flashing thingy?? what did you mean??

Eh,
I have no Idea when he says "Flashy" Thing.
But, this project is great, Just keep working on it!
I got a question tho, How long had you been working on it?
Before posting it on the Hive?
It seems you took a lot of time on it.
=]

1 month.. i work it on a holiday... full time...

updated on 10 february 2008

Wow. If there is ever a game to become as popular or more popular than DotA it is this. Wonderful job, LaMBhE. Seriously. I love how many different heroes people would be able to come up with and because of that people will want to play the game more. Nearly endless posibilities when it comes to customization in this game. If this never hits Battle Net, there will be many sad people.

hmm... i don't ever have a Bnet Id... if you like it, why you don't host it??

just a reminder, this map is still in development

=]
Its understandable, but that guys right,
Don't drop this project, its just, so Great. It looks as if you spent SO much time on it.
Just gotta keep picking at them small bugs that bother ya, Don't worry you will get it down eventually. =]
Great Map Man.
-Calvin

I like this map, it's quite fun to mess around with hero ideas.

In the new versions though, I've been having trouble with the Meat Hook skill. It tends to bug out and freeze my hero in place, with every box but my passives blacked out.

you can discuss this map at my new forum at
twinklecraft.6.forumer.com

my forum is still new, and still empty
I created it today

Nice,
Forums!
Also, something me and my little brother noted.
Player Blue, gets 802 Starting gold,
Player Red gets 3,201 Staring gold, =/
Just thought I'd throw that up there.

Edit : Just registered, Nice Forum. =]

This is one of the best maps I've seen. Good looking forum. Creative and fun idea. Small bug found: when choosing a hero's Agility (don't know for sure if it was Agility) growth rate, the resources you pay or get back aren't the same as the tooltip says. Keep working on it and it might going to be the best map.

thanx for the report, you should post it in my forum,

*fixed*

*flashing thingy removed*

To reduces lags

What Flashy Thngy? xD

yay, approved!! but in the new version, this map won't lag even a bit, just wait n see...

Just keep it up xD
May this map own the BNet

thanks for removing the flashing thing on the top left or right of the screen no more lags detected

many things that cause previous version lags, the flashing thingy is just a little part of the things that cause lags..

Great map, but the lag is frustrating.

And Haosis you need to say something other than "I really like the effort... How hard you worked..." you never actually mention anything ABOUT the map. People like better feedback. But eh who am i to decide.

GJ on the map but you really need to fix up some of the lag.