I suggest completly removing the child.

Null said:

I suggest completly removing the child.

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there is a version without one. Also, it's a very small man, not a child . I might add versions with different people as the driver later, Like a man or even a kobold or gnoll. I'm using an edited MPQ though since that's all i could find and the villager male models have been altered in it.

Anyway, what do you not like about the child?

vlekje5 said:

there is a version without one. Also, it's a very small man, not a child . I might add versions with different people as the driver later, Like a man or even a kobold or gnoll. I'm using an edited MPQ though since that's all i could find and the villager male models have been altered in it.

Anyway, what do you not like about the child?

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I suggest perhaps the male villagers or the dwarves from the mortar team unit individually.

Oh yes. Almost AoE2 War Chariots.

The young boy already knows how to help his family financially xd

It would be better if there were no children...

Null said:

I suggest completly removing the child.

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BaiyuGalan said:

It would be better if there were no children...

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Lovely, I'm looking for an animated cart but a more fancy design one though.

Overall very useful. Some animations for the drivers would be cool tho, considering that right now if the unit dies, the driver is just... well, sitting there staring into the ground as if nothing happened hehe.

And now that you're already at it with adding other types of drivers, how about adding fx. a goblin or a bandit as a driver as well? Could be used as a trader or as a model for someone who's hijacked a carriage.

As for attachment-points on the model; have you added an attachment-point to the seat of the carriage? Because in that way, people could also add their own units in game to sit on the driver's seat. They'd be inanimate like the current drivers yes, but that could be pretty useful, in case anyone would want to have a specific unit sitting in the driver's seat.

Anton Wulff Jensen said:

Overall very useful. Some animations for the drivers would be cool tho, considering that right now if the unit dies, the driver is just... well, sitting there staring into the ground as if nothing happened hehe.

And now that you're already at it with adding other types of drivers, how about adding fx. a goblin or a bandit as a driver as well? Could be used as a trader or as a model for someone who's hijacked a carriage.

As for attachment-points on the model; have you added an attachment-point to the seat of the carriage? Because in that way, people could also add their own units in game to sit on the driver's seat. They'd be inanimate like the current drivers yes, but that could be pretty useful, in case anyone would want to have a specific unit sitting in the driver's seat.

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Yeah my modelling skillset right now does not exceed merging geosets moving vertice's and creating new materials :/. I've done some animation transfers before but i don't know how to transfer animations to an individual geoset yet since this model has seperately animated parts I just attached my stuff to the nodes that were already animated and made sure it was invisible during decay animations. The problem is that every animation transfer technique i know just adds a new animation from a different unit. ideally i would want to for example take the idle animation from the child to play simultaneously with the idle animation of the other geosets.

As for attachment points, yeah i don't know how to put those on a specific point either xD. I but i definitly see how that could be usefull for rpg type maps, it would also add a lot of use for a relatively low amount of effort. since right now i'm probably going to be on completing some of the harder triggers for my map first before I start with adding any additional drivers.

Also decay bones for the kid is prob something i should add (that i think i can pull off already).

EDIT: i added the attachment point, it doesnt look great on every model but i guess it can do a lot for people making rpg's or such.

DaHomieG said:

I suggest perhaps the male villagers or the dwarves from the mortar team unit individually.

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The small dwarf could work, however i'm not sure if theyre split or not and if they are in the same geoset.

vlekje5 said:

The small dwarf could work, however i'm not sure if theyre split or not and if they are in the same geoset.

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they are in different meshs i guess so

Kuzakani said:

they are in different meshs i guess so

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Well , when i inspect them they are spread over 3 different geosets, and both of them are in all 3 . so i can't simply extract the full model. I'm kind of cautious with deleting vertices because this has caused my model files to corrupt twice before.

A useful little thing, very cool to have a horse-cart model. Would definitely agree that the child seems out of place (some creative re-wrapping with Adult Villager/Dwarf/Knight/? textures might make him look more like a (short) adult, and support the creation of a version with the 'rider' attachment point for people to modify as they wish.

Kyrbi0 said:

A useful little thing, very cool to have a horse-cart model. Would definitely agree that the child seems out of place (some creative re-wrapping with Adult Villager/Dwarf/Knight/? textures might make him look more like a (short) adult, and support the creation of a version with the 'rider' attachment point for people to modify as they wish.

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you're making me think, Custom skins that were made for the villager kid model might be the way to go too. The villager man after testing the attachment point is a bit too big, not that that can't be fixed with scaling though.

Ok so i've added an attachment point and made a version with the motar guy, i've also added animations to this new version. Something which i just learned today so they are a bit barebones but it's the best i could do from scratch animation. Also fixed up the death animation for that one. If i find a nice reskin i might add animations for the ones with the kid model too. However at the moment i want to focus on the project i made this model for . Atleast there's now one version out there with a fully animated driver.

Personally i'm farily happy since if you look at the new model it's pretty clear that towards the end my animations got a lot less shitty :d

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The small dwarf could work, however i'm not sure if theyre split or not and if they are in the same geoset.

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I've seen people split them before so I'm sure it would work. And the small one really does fit the vibe.

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I've seen people split them before so I'm sure it would work. And the small one really does fit the vibe.

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yeah, i actually already added him. Even learned animating just to give that fella some basic animations .

Nice model, any chance for an undead version? (like a scourge caravan)

This cart looks heavy, would it be better to make bonus attachment model and let a kodo beast (or something bigger, like abomination?) to pull it? I'm not sure.

I found some small issues with the models:

• During Decay Flesh animation, the carriage slowly floats upwards instead of downwards, making it "weirding out" when the unit dies.
• Four of the models needs proper optimization as HIVE's Sanity Check have detected 200+ of small issues in the models. Consider using the Optimizer in Mdlvis or this online tool.
• The portrait planes are useless without a portrait animation. You may either remove them or create a portrait animation.