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Too much Cho (Altered Melee; Vrs.5.2)

Author(s)
Babarella
Tags
Altered Melee, Medieval / Warcraft
Size
1700.46 KB
Rating

(1 ratings)

Downloads
211
Created
Jun 23, 2018
Updated
Nov 25, 2021
Resources
1
State
Approved
This bundle is marked as useful / simple. Simplicity is bliss, low effort and/or may contain minor bugs.
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I WILL NOT FINISH THIS MAP!
It was my first take on altered melee, when I was quite inexperienced with the world editor.

My first altered melee map. It is made out of what my friends and I are thinking about. Sometimes it is really weird stuff.
The story hehind all this is that there were four nations: Justlandia (select "Orc"), Phillage (select "Human"), Daniopolis (select "Undead") and The Neutral Ground (select "Night elf"). Daniel, the mighty Conquerer, conquered the whole world and called his land Daniopolis. One day three annoyed peasants started a rebellion. They were called Justin, Ludwig and Philipp. They destroyed the state of Daniopolis. After they had won their freedom Justin and Philipp disagreed with each other in everything. Then they started the great war. One faction, The Neutral Ground, led by their friend Ludwig, stayed neutral. His goal was it to make sure that the rules of war won´t be broken and that the beautiful friendship the four of them had won´t suffer under this war. In the end he joined the fighting anyway.
Justlandia: A country full of factories, nuclear waste and mutated people.
Phillage: A normal country, except from the clever population.
Daniopolis: An old country which ones ruled the world, but then was completely wiped out. Now it wants to get his old strength back.
The Neutral Ground: A group of enviromentalists, trees and other protectes of Mother Earth that want the world to be greena again.

IMPORTANT! The AI is not working so you have to play it against another player. I´m sorry for that. I just dont know how to use the AI Editor.

I hope you enjoy my map and please leave feedback even if it is bad. But please don´t make me cry.

This is the fifth version of my map.
My other map:
Island Expedition

Sources for the custom models I used:
Gnomish Spider Tank
Goblin Emperor
Samurai
Goblin Tinker Turret Artillery
Goblin Tinker Turret Cannon
FlyingMachine
XV-105 "Super stingray"
DarkElvenDracon
Elven Royal Guard
Undead Ghoul

PS: I am from Germany so I hope there are no grammar mistakes.


Change log:
2.0:
New units, upgrades and buildings for Justlandia and Phillage
I differentiated the races further so they are are not mixed up human anymore^^
Tiny mistakes were fixed
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2.3:
Tiny mistakes were fixed
Planes got different models
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2.4:
I improved some of the sounds
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2.5:
"Call to arms" is fixed
I changed the name of the map
I added some new upgrades
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2.6:
I improved the hero spells
I started working on a second hero for each faction
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3.0:
A second hero for each faction was added
Tiny mistakes were fixed
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3.1:
I fixed some major mistakes of the heroes
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3.2:
I fixed some major mistakes of the heroes... again
Food maximum is now 200
"BOMB!" was nerfed
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3.3:
Bomber now cost 10 food
Cho-Recycler now throw Cho (because there can never be too much Cho)
Experiment 41C ability "Electricity" mana cost was increased from 80 to 100
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4.0:
Daniopolis was added! YEAH!
Now I´m gonna work on "The Neutral Ground"
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4.1:
Magical Alpha Hemorrhoids Warriors now have an air attack
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5.0:
The Neutral Ground was added
I´ll work on a third hero for each faction
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5.1:
I fixed many bugs and went over every faction a little bit for balances sake
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5.2:
Tooltips and hotkeys got improved
All planes are now build in the airport
All cho units now have the radioactive skin abbility
I changed the creeps of the map
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Too much Cho (Map)

Author
Karl Ludwig Johannes / Babarella
Filename
Too much Cho.w3x
Suggested players
2-8
Players
8
Required game
Warcraft 3
Recommended version
1.30
Dimensions
128x128 (160x160)
Size
1700.46 KB
Uploaded
Jun 28, 2018
Updated
Feb 28, 2019
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Reviews
deepstrasz
deepstrasz
What kind of name is that? What does it mean? Items shouldn't be chaotically placed in with upgrades. Weird to have a non-last tier building with only one unit inside and no upgrades (referring to the Barracks). Only one hero with usual Warcraft...
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deepstrasz
deepstrasz
Justins House has Call to Arms but it's for Peasants... Cannot understand why you've switched human with orc workers. Haven't changed much really, sorry, Substandart.
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Daffa

Daffa

Daffa

Level 44
Joined
Jan 30, 2013
Messages
12,333
Babarella said:
Thank you for your feedback. Do you have any what I could change?
And it would be nice if you could leave a rating. hx.
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Differentiate the race further. Currently, the factory building offers exactly the same thing to both ends. Both sides are also pretty similar in upgrades and structure tree.

I can see one has potential in massing while other in high tech weaponry.

Not gonna rate unless you like seeing a 1/5 or 2/5 in your map.
 

deepstrasz

deepstrasz

deepstrasz

Map Reviewer
Level 69
Joined
Jun 4, 2009
Messages
18,808
What kind of name is that? What does it mean?

  1. Items shouldn't be chaotically placed in with upgrades.
  2. Weird to have a non-last tier building with only one unit inside and no upgrades (referring to the Barracks).
  3. Only one hero with usual Warcraft spells.
  4. Drone and Flying Machine have the same icon and look alike. The Bomber too and this one is also too powerful.
  5. Many units don't have abilities. They are practically not differentiated.
  6. The factions are basically copies of themselves based on Human.
  7. Hero abilities aren't specific. "Call big dude" and that's it.
  8. Rusty Steam and Kamikaze Cart look alike, icon and all and the other faction has a similar unit too.
  9. Kamikaze Cart is basically Kamikaze-Cho.

The overall design is chaotic. I'm not sure what you wanted to do.

Take a look at how proper altered melee is done:
How to: Create a Full-working Custom Race
Custom Race Creation: Advanced Mechanics
UB - Ultimate Battle v2.00b AI+
Deforestation of Felwood v2.1.1
Nightborne v1.04
Planetary Domination v2.04
Sands of Time [v1.9]
The Grand Citadel (Racial Issue 1.6)

Awaiting Update.

If you want more reviews, you should participate in the The Grand Review Exchange!

R U L E S

Site Rules
Map Submission Rules


M A P - D E S C R I P T I O N
BB CODES
BB Codes | HIVE

MELEE MAPS
Description Guide - Melee Maps
Describing Your Melee Map
Melee Map Description Generator v1.3

MAPS IN GENERAL
The importance of a Description
Description Guide - Maps
Map Thread Guide
Map Description Making: Good & Bad
Map Description - Templates
Map Description Generator [1.2]

How to Add a Screenshot to your Map Description

ADDITIONAL NECESSARY INFORMATION
  • A credits list in the map thread description is required where the names of the resource (models, skins, icons, spells, sound etc.) authors are mentioned along with the specific resource. It would be a luxury to have links leading to the used resources. Credits in the Quest Log would be appreciated too.
  • A detailed changelog in the first post would be helpful to reviewers and notify fans about the newest implementations to your map.
  • Map thread tags are important. Please use those that fit and not more or none.

M A P - C R E A T I O N - G U I D E S
GENERAL MAPPING
A Beginner's Guide to Map Making
The Ultimate Beginners Terrain Tutorial
Advanced Terraining Tutorial
A Guideline to Terraining and the Hive's Terraining Section
Various Terraining Tips!
Basic Mapping Video Tutorial
WE Map Editor for Newbies!
The Path Of Proper Map Making - What to do and what should be avoided

MELEE MAPPING
How to create Melee Maps
General - Melee Maps like the Professionals
Competitive Melee Map
Melee mapping - The reasons behind common aspects of competitive 1v1 maps

PATHING
Pathing - Everything about it
[Terraining] Alternative Pathing Technique

LEAKS
Triggers - Memory Leaks and Custom Scripts

If you're not satisfied with the review and wish another opinion, contact the other reviewers or use the staff contact:
Paillan
twojstaryjakcie
https://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/staff-contact.692/
 

Babarella

Babarella

Babarella

Level 4
Joined
Mar 9, 2018
Messages
39
deepstrasz said:
What kind of name is that? What does it mean?

  1. Items shouldn't be chaotically placed in with upgrades.
  2. Weird to have a non-last tier building with only one unit inside and no upgrades (referring to the Barracks).
  3. Only one hero with usual Warcraft spells.
  4. Drone and Flying Machine have the same icon and look alike. The Bomber too and this one is also too powerful.
  5. Many units don't have abilities. They are practically not differentiated.
  6. The factions are basically copies of themselves based on Human.
  7. Hero abilities aren't specific. "Call big dude" and that's it.
  8. Rusty Steam and Kamikaze Cart look alike, icon and all and the other faction has a similar unit too.
  9. Kamikaze Cart is basically Kamikaze-Cho.

The overall design is chaotic. I'm not sure what you wanted to do.

Take a look at how proper altered melee is done:
How to: Create a Full-working Custom Race
Custom Race Creation: Advanced Mechanics
UB - Ultimate Battle v2.00b AI+
Deforestation of Felwood v2.1.1
Nightborne v1.04
Planetary Domination v2.04
Sands of Time [v1.9]
The Grand Citadel (Racial Issue 1.6)

Awaiting Update.

If you want more reviews, you should participate in the The Grand Review Exchange!

R U L E S

Site Rules
Map Submission Rules


M A P - D E S C R I P T I O N
BB CODES
BB Codes | HIVE

MELEE MAPS
Description Guide - Melee Maps
Describing Your Melee Map
Melee Map Description Generator v1.3

MAPS IN GENERAL
The importance of a Description
Description Guide - Maps
Map Thread Guide
Map Description Making: Good & Bad
Map Description - Templates
Map Description Generator [1.2]

How to Add a Screenshot to your Map Description

ADDITIONAL NECESSARY INFORMATION
  • A credits list in the map thread description is required where the names of the resource (models, skins, icons, spells, sound etc.) authors are mentioned along with the specific resource. It would be a luxury to have links leading to the used resources. Credits in the Quest Log would be appreciated too.
  • A detailed changelog in the first post would be helpful to reviewers and notify fans about the newest implementations to your map.
  • Map thread tags are important. Please use those that fit and not more or none.

M A P - C R E A T I O N - G U I D E S
GENERAL MAPPING
A Beginner's Guide to Map Making
The Ultimate Beginners Terrain Tutorial
Advanced Terraining Tutorial
A Guideline to Terraining and the Hive's Terraining Section
Various Terraining Tips!
Basic Mapping Video Tutorial
WE Map Editor for Newbies!
The Path Of Proper Map Making - What to do and what should be avoided

MELEE MAPPING
How to create Melee Maps
General - Melee Maps like the Professionals
Competitive Melee Map
Melee mapping - The reasons behind common aspects of competitive 1v1 maps

PATHING
Pathing - Everything about it
[Terraining] Alternative Pathing Technique

LEAKS
Triggers - Memory Leaks and Custom Scripts

If you're not satisfied with the review and wish another opinion, contact the other reviewers or use the staff contact:
Paillan
twojstaryjakcie
https://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/staff-contact.692/
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Thx for your feedback. I´m going to improve it.
 

deepstrasz

deepstrasz

deepstrasz

Map Reviewer
Level 69
Joined
Jun 4, 2009
Messages
18,808
Babarella said:
Hi, would you please give my map another chance, because I think I improved a lot since your last rating. Thanks.
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  1. You should try to make the hotkeys yellow or some colour to be easily read. You could even place them at the beginning of the end of a unit/buildings title/name.
  2. Custom icons would not hurt.
  3. Heroes could use hero glow: How to add Hero Glow without Modeling
  4. Fast Guns has the same icon as Long Rifles.
  5. Contrary to what player might think, the Cannon Tower does not deal AoE damage certainly has no siege attack.
  6. Not sure what the point is to have an anti-air tower with fast attack speed when the other one attacks both air and land units with very fast attack speed.
  7. Towers themselves seem pretty tough.
  8. Suck Mana doesn't mention how much it siphons. Neither do Cannon and Wave mention the damage they deal and whether they can touch air units or not. Learn about tooltips:
    Tooltip Tutorial
    Creating Good Descriptions
  9. Spider Robots are pretty weak for 4 food and bombers are too strong. They can eliminate a fully upgraded main building in a matter of seconds.
  10. Why is the Steam Tank on the second position of the row?
  11. Lumber Harvesting mentions Peasants.
  12. Same with the towers only one for the "orcs" has slow poison and the tower attacks very fast.
  13. Summon Justalndians takes the place of the main building's upgrade after the Justins Castle is reached.
  14. Electricity doesn't say how much damage it deals and so on.

I don't think it's ready to be out of Substandard. Most things are just generic Warcraft III material.
You are free to ask for remoderation from any other reviewer.
 

Babarella

Babarella

Babarella

Level 4
Joined
Mar 9, 2018
Messages
39
deepstrasz said:
  1. You should try to make the hotkeys yellow or some colour to be easily read. You could even place them at the beginning of the end of a unit/buildings title/name.
  2. Custom icons would not hurt.
  3. Heroes could use hero glow: How to add Hero Glow without Modeling
  4. Fast Guns has the same icon as Long Rifles.
  5. Contrary to what player might think, the Cannon Tower does not deal AoE damage certainly has no siege attack.
  6. Not sure what the point is to have an anti-air tower with fast attack speed when the other one attacks both air and land units with very fast attack speed.
  7. Towers themselves seem pretty tough.
  8. Suck Mana doesn't mention how much it siphons. Neither do Cannon and Wave mention the damage they deal and whether they can touch air units or not. Learn about tooltips:
    Tooltip Tutorial
    Creating Good Descriptions
  9. Spider Robots are pretty weak for 4 food and bombers are too strong. They can eliminate a fully upgraded main building in a matter of seconds.
  10. Why is the Steam Tank on the second position of the row?
  11. Lumber Harvesting mentions Peasants.
  12. Same with the towers only one for the "orcs" has slow poison and the tower attacks very fast.
  13. Summon Justalndians takes the place of the main building's upgrade after the Justins Castle is reached.
  14. Electricity doesn't say how much damage it deals and so on.
I don't think it's ready to be out of Substandard. Most things are just generic Warcraft III material.
You are free to ask for remoderation from any other reviewer.
Click to expand...

Thanks, I appreciate that you really looked into the map. I´ll improve it.
 
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