The Seven Kingdoms 1.03

Moderator · Feb 20, 2014

01:27, 23rd Feb 2014
Hell_Master: Map approved (rating will be given after one more try with the game). See moderator's review here for more information:

Hell_Master said:
Review emerges!

I have played your map namely Seven Knigdoms and I must say that this is great like your other maps. The terrain's great and to be honest with you, much better than your other maps. You did used the Hive's resources to your advantage and making a good terrain. But there could be some regional fog into the terrain and also a weather, better yet if the weather changes randomly and periodically. And just a tip, you could also use Special effects as doodads and destructibles for your map. You're not only limited to the actual doodads and destructibles.

For the actual gameplay, it's quite great but I really missed the thing in your other map where you are limited on what to build and will increase through each Level Up. It makes you start fresh with building your desired structures, train troops and more... Gathering materials such as Ore, Foods and more looks good but it could be better if it's like in your old map where it's more of you train workers to gather there. There are many things I really missed here that is in your old maps but maybe it's just because that it has no IA or AI yet that it seems plain boring playing by yourself. (Actually, I played this by myself and mindlessly conquered each factions)

So, as for my suggestions, it would be best to work on the AI first for it'll really make a great change in the map and how it works. The terrain improvements and addition of weather system can follow after the AI. Also, it would be much better if not all things are quite automatically done, it would be much better if you are to manually train units to gather materials from buildings and possible if you can start fresh from being a poor village into an empire like in your other maps.

Great presentation as well, very neat, formal and gives a huge amount of informations needed to know.

Approved still.

purparisien · Feb 20, 2014

We are proud to show you our latest map : The Seven Kingdoms. We hope you will enjoy this map. We try to make it as original and interesting as possible. Of course, we are at your disposal if you have any ideas or suggestions to submit.

Kazeon · Feb 20, 2014

"Random" IA may be => "Random" AI?

interesting, will review it once I have played it..

GolluM_KoMe · Feb 20, 2014

"Random" IA

Well, by that I meant the IA we're planning to do would have random behaviors, as if it was an unknown player.

interesting, will review it once I have played it..

Nice ! Ty !

Kazeon · Feb 20, 2014

just suggestion, you could add the screenshoots between [HIDDEN=]*[/HIDDEN] so that if we dont open the picture, we don't have to load it first..

GolluM_KoMe · Feb 20, 2014

I think you load it anyway. Plus the text is loaded first so ...

Kazeon · Feb 20, 2014

Plus the text is loaded first so ...

wrong! I can't edit my post and use bb codes lol

IcemanBo · Feb 20, 2014

Just for understanding. He meant you should fix description with replacing "IA" by "AI".

You are from clan HEA? So, I guess you are french, because IA is french for AI.

Anyway really good screenshots, map looks very good.. but have not tested it yet. :csmile:

Kazeon · Feb 20, 2014

kwakk x_X finally succesfully download the map. will review this soon!!

Statharas · Feb 20, 2014

Odds are you can't use Ensemble Studios' icons.

purparisien · Feb 20, 2014

Ok anyway did you test the map ? We really hope you will like it.

Binsu · Feb 23, 2014

Review emerges!

I have played your map namely Seven Knigdoms and I must say that this is great like your other maps. The terrain's great and to be honest with you, much better than your other maps. You did used the Hive's resources to your advantage and making a good terrain. But there could be some regional fog into the terrain and also a weather, better yet if the weather changes randomly and periodically. And just a tip, you could also use Special effects as doodads and destructibles for your map. You're not only limited to the actual doodads and destructibles.

For the actual gameplay, it's quite great but I really missed the thing in your other map where you are limited on what to build and will increase through each Level Up. It makes you start fresh with building your desired structures, train troops and more... Gathering materials such as Ore, Foods and more looks good but it could be better if it's like in your old map where it's more of you train workers to gather there. There are many things I really missed here that is in your old maps but maybe it's just because that it has no IA or AI yet that it seems plain boring playing by yourself. (Actually, I played this by myself and mindlessly conquered each factions)

So, as for my suggestions, it would be best to work on the AI first for it'll really make a great change in the map and how it works. The terrain improvements and addition of weather system can follow after the AI. Also, it would be much better if not all things are quite automatically done, it would be much better if you are to manually train units to gather materials from buildings and possible if you can start fresh from being a poor village into an empire like in your other maps.

Great presentation as well, very neat, formal and gives a huge amount of informations needed to know.

Approved still.

GolluM_KoMe · Feb 23, 2014

a weather, better yet if the weather changes randomly and periodically.

Yep it's written in the To Do List

Gathering materials such as Ore, Foods and more looks good but it could be better if it's like in your old map where it's more of you train workers to gather there.

Please be aware that I didn't try at all to remake my old map. In here, strategy is the center of the gameplay; not the economy gestion.

There are many things I really missed here that is in your old maps but maybe it's just because that it has no IA or AI yet that it seems plain boring playing by yourself. (Actually, I played this by myself and mindlessly conquered each factions)

Duuuuuude !! Please don't rate it if you played it in solo ... It would be like playing 1vs0 at W3 ... Everything was thought and made for a good multiplayer experience. Firendship, treachery, the need of balance of powers etc, until the moment one gets 100 Nation Power and cannot have allies. I played it like 10 times and I had fun everytime as I was with my friend and that we had to be triky and viscous to win the game.

So, as for my suggestions, it would be best to work on the AI first for it'll really make a great change in the map and how it works. The terrain improvements and addition of weather system can follow after the AI. Also, it would be much better if not all things are quite automatically done, it would be much better if you are to manually train units to gather materials from buildings and possible if you can start fresh from being a poor village into an empire like in your other maps.

Well I think I quite answered to this, but I do want to add an AI (check the To Do List

, not to play solo, but to handle the fact that players always leave at a time or an other...

Great presentation as well, very neat, formal and gives a huge amount of informations needed to know.

Rated 4/5 and Approved still.

Thanks for the approval ! But I'm sorry but you can't rate it without playing in multi with at least 8 players. I would gladely accept the rating if you told me what went wrong, but for now the rating means nothing...

Anyway thanks a lot for trying the map!

Kazeon · Feb 23, 2014

congratulation for the approval, but honestly, I'm having troublem in understanding the game, I don't know how to improve the population, how can I add more houses, bulding guard tower/balista doesn't have progress bar and if I click cancel I will get 100% refunds. :/

InfernalTater · Feb 23, 2014

I wanted to write a long post to give this map the thorough review it deserves, but all I can say is HOLY SHIT! :goblin_jawdrop:

It looks incredible from the description and screenshots. I'll try it as soon as I can scramble some friends together for a test run, and if the awesomeness doesn't splatter my brains against the wall, I'll let you know what I think of the gameplay.

Binsu · Feb 23, 2014

Same here, If I got some friends or the time you released the AI, I'll be sure to give a more proper feedback to this but for now approved. Removed rating but approved still.

Gougougox · Feb 23, 2014

Yeah! Another map from the HEA clan! Gonna test it, and will edit my message for a litte review.

EDIT: -A very good enconomic management, still I didn't understand everything.
- Great terrain, maybe a bit overcharged, still very good.
- Good choice of models.
- Definitely need an AI. Yup.

So, hope you will add an AI, because the map could just be awesome with it. Also, I played in solo

p) but i'm gonna try to test it in multi.

GolluM_KoMe · Feb 23, 2014

I don't know how to improve the population

Well, most of the systems are automatic; population increases by itself and decreases if a town/village is seized.

bulding guard tower/balista doesn't have progress bar and if I click cancel I will get 100% refunds.

Ah ye sorry for that; this is because these are units upgrading into other units which is normally restricted to buildings. We needed them to be units as they had to fly to appear to be on the walls.

if I click cancel I will get 100% refunds

Do you mean if you cancel, it gives you 100% refunds + the tower is still built ??? That would be bad

very bad.

It looks incredible from the description and screenshots. I'll try it as soon as I can scramble some friends together for a test run, and if the awesomeness doesn't splatter my brains against the wall, I'll let you know what I think of the gameplay.

Ty

Same here, If I got some friends or the time you released the AI, I'll be sure to give a more proper feedback to this but for now approved. Removed rating but approved still.

Thanks for that Helly

Yeah! Another map from the HEA clan! Gonna test it, and will edit my message for a litte review.

EDIT: -A very good enconomic management, still I didn't understand everything.
- Great terrain, maybe a bit overcharged, still very good.
- Good choice of models.
- Definitely need an AI. Yup.

So, hope you will add an AI, because the map could just be awesome with it. Also, I played in solo p) but i'm gonna try to test it in multi.

Thanks dude

Kazeon · Feb 23, 2014

Ah ye sorry for that; this is because these are units upgrading into other units which is normally restricted to buildings. We needed them to be units as they had to fly to appear to be on the walls.

edit the model then, select all vertices then increase the z equal to the wall height. then you don't have to use normal units

Do you mean if you cancel, it gives you 100% refunds + the tower is still built ??? That would be bad very bad.

no the upgrade canceled. but it seems not good if we got 100% refund

InfernalTater · Feb 23, 2014

--Change the font. It is legible, yes, but it takes longer to read, and this game requires a lot of reading.
--Check the base pathing, structures, etc. Units sometimes spawn stuck between a building and a wall, that should be avoided.
--Tower's fire does poison effect instead of flame

It's really fun, though.

Also, towards end-game, when two players have half of the map and face off, spending 100,000 gold can be pretty difficult. It would be nice if players could enable auto-spawns individually at each town or city, which would send small armies out at enemies, of course costing gold for the sends.

AI will make this much better as well; I look forward to seeing you implement them in the future, as you have in Lords of the North.

felixng2012 · Feb 24, 2014

Noticed two glitches. Stewardship books give + 5 attack and armor instead of stewardship. Ultimate can be spammed with no cooldown for the martial ultimate.

sammath · Feb 24, 2014

Interesting map, keep going

Kazeon · Feb 26, 2014

Further review..

Isn't that rOcky mountains are something like waste of space? I still cant understand the gameplay bcause I dont have friend to play with and bcs you dont give AI to your game (where actually AI will be one great addition to a game like this). Personally, I love the environment you made there, mate. The mountains are great, but once more, they are to much and waste so much spaces.. I also noticed the three kingdoms located at the north placed too far from the other south kingdom.. I'm pretty sure it affects the balance of your game..

Im sorry I cant make a nice post cs Im in mobile right now.. 4.5/5 for now bcs you dont have AI

Kazeon · Feb 26, 2014

oh, from Gollum[Kome] must be great.. I know your name once, the creator of Lord of Middle Earth right? looking at the screenshoots, this looks like so much improvements of your lord of middle earth..

purparisien · Feb 26, 2014

We have released a new version:
-The font has been changed
-Items have been added in the school of thoughs
-We have fixed minor bugs

We are still working on the IA. You can expect it soon.

Chen · Mar 1, 2014

Never knew this is out already, I'm gonna play it...

Railto · Mar 1, 2014

Gonna test it all hail kome-sensei

Iraescarvis · Mar 1, 2014

Very, VERY nice map! +Rep!

ziad · Mar 2, 2014

5/5 +rep but it is hard to understand how to play from the first play i suggest a tutorial.
I think the Ai must be the first and the terrain is very good he can be the last.

Kazeon · Mar 5, 2014

have played this game with one of my friend, he begged me to end the game after 2 minutes bcs he can't understand anything, me too D:

still, I recommend you to put those images inside [HIDDEN][/HIDDEN] tags. I never load it successfuly.. I hope there are explanations about the gameplay or how to play it because, you really need to make it!

GolluM_KoMe · Mar 5, 2014

I hope there are explanations about the gameplay or how to play it because, you really need to make it!

Just read the quest or read the map description

purparisien · Mar 5, 2014

F9 is your friend !

smeagol · Mar 9, 2014

great map, will be waiting for ai version

Railto · Mar 13, 2014

there are 2 bronze helmets one in lightweight tier and one in heavy tier also the tier 2 lightweight armor gives the same armor amount as the tier 3 lighweight armor and tier 3 cost more.
2 bronze gloves one lightweight and one heavy

purparisien · Mar 14, 2014

Thanks Railto we are gonna to fix it soon. We are also adding the AI.

Velrog · Mar 18, 2014

If you don't mind me askin'... how the hell do i open the gates? I can't break 'em, there are no levers... i'm stuck.

ziad · Mar 19, 2014

Velrog said:
If you don't mind me askin'... how the hell do i open the gates? I can't break 'em, there are no levers... i'm stuck.

There is a building to open it and you reminded me the metalic gate is buged he can't open.

BIOengineer · Apr 10, 2014

hello!
bugs
Juyongguan - Chinise Wonder - many laggs
Upgrade Door - all money will be lost (should be 2000)

gusanomental · May 19, 2014

Bug I've found: Using nomads I couldnt build or use shipyardss on the Chinese cities I've conquered, is this really intended? Turning your enemies in permanent submissive vassals could be funny and could prevent players from quitting when they lose.
Waiting for the ai. Great map!

fr14nd1 · May 26, 2014

This map is quite different with your old map, but an innovation is always better

Why not add a tutorial for the first 15 seconds? Not everyone get the gameplay quickly (like me).

lDarkAlex · Jun 26, 2014

Ships can't shoot other ships :// Hey,your map is good,very very very good,i like your map and all the things that include a good history,i have a idea,but why you two don't do a map about the Greek Mythology >

o That is gona be awesome

(I apologize for my bad english,im from Venezuela xD) Saludos.

Sunreaver · Dec 27, 2014

Very good in chinese history and a good map

Fabiolucas10 · May 10, 2015

This is Shogun XD Total War ! Make Total War Rome,this game is so Good

Winimasker · May 30, 2015

How about these add-ons?
1) Generals (leaders of group of armies to aid in combat against the foes)
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2) Loyalty of generals (they may not be satisfied and may become other player's assistant.)
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3) The salary of generals (it varies and will affect the loyalty of generals, pay the extra salary to generals to increase their loyalty by spending money. In this way, players will consider the amount of money needed. At here, the importance of money is increased.)
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4) Paddy other than the food (its value is changeable depends on the amount of food/armies) so that players also need to consider the paddy to be consumed before players enlist and train new armies.
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5) Upgrading of skills of armies, technologies, etc. (to enhance armies, the wall, etc.) -> E.g. the attack/speed/range/maneuver of a type of armies, the durability of the gate and so forth
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6) Transaction & negotiation (can be resources trading, teaching learned skill) -> some of them you have included, such as diplomacy, etc. Nice job!
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7) Some empty castles/bases (it is possible except the wikipedia really tells that there are no empty castle during this reign/time)
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8) Transfer of resources among castles (At here, you should assign different amount of resources to several different castles at start since it is possible for another castle to don't have resources even though some castles are rich in resources. In this way, players will be aware of resources of each castle rather than resources shared by all castles)
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9) Military advisers (they have abilities of using tactics, such as making armies to become invisible, it is called ambushing). Of course, players need to think of their loyalty also.
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10) New buildings (such as looking for talented persons, technology building (academy), etc.)
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11) Military camps in default location on the terrain (to store an amount of armies in those camps for sudden attack, some of them are possible to be empty -> to make a trick to the opponents. In this way, the opponents will need to think smart and will use strategy to rush, it is possible for either side to fall back due to the trick or the tactics of military adviser rather than just considering the weakness of creeps and simply hitting the enemies).
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12) Rare artifacts each talented person -> generals/military advisers may have (can be weapons, the precious stuffs, the elixir of life, the powder, the legendary rides, etc.)
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13) New forces (think of it, is it possible? Other than Wei, Qin, Qi, Yan, Han, Zhao, Chu, Xiong Nu, Wu Sun, Xian Bei)
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14) The embarassing of new forces (not only Xiong Nu, Wu Sun, Xian Bei. It can be mountain bandits, jungle bandits and so on).
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15) The usage of prestige (it should have uses. The usage of prestige can be to increase the chance of getting more talented persons, to increase the bonus income, armies and populations, etc.)
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16) The creation of legion which must be strong (assign the created legion with a name to terrify other players since you have strong generals and smart military advisers, be referred to the example of Dynasty Warrior. There are five 'tigers' in Dynasty Warrior (I don't know the exact translation for that "five tigers"), it is just a personification, not real tigers)
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*) Consider the nature of the castle/units/items/management/manipulation/war/others by yourself (I should not list all of them as the chat will run madly if I do that. I have given you so many clues, good luck! I'm here to give the example of functionality requirements and quality requirements because I'm exciting. It doesn't mean that I never play your map. I always play HIVEWORKSHOP's maps in Garena+. Yeah! ~!)
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These are some of my opinions. Express gratitude!

Anderhord · Jun 28, 2015

purparisien said:
We have released a new version:
-The font has been changed
-Items have been added in the school of thoughs
-We have fixed minor bugs

We are still working on the IA. You can expect it soon.

Are the AI stil in progress?

Lt_Hawkeye · Sep 26, 2016

Is this map still being worked on?

Loolazo859 · Feb 26, 2017

I put it in the map folder and it not appear me

,can someone help me?

BrazilEmperor · Jan 21, 2018

Very good map! Wonderful terrain, stunning visual, dynamic and adaptable system, models match the style of the nations and the culture of the time ... no comments! magnificent!

Where did you get the soldiers' models?

fang24 · May 15, 2018

Seemed really fun at first. Liked all the different stuff. But then I started testing things. While it is still fun there are far too many problems I found.

1. If you buy anything after selling it the shop too fast it thinks you have one.
2. if it says you can't buy it because you have one any time you try to buy that item type again it takes your money and never gives it to you.
3. For some reason I just had units drop dead. I was in my own town towers and units all over gates closed and the king in the center around heavy guards and out of no where he just died as if he had a heart attack. And it is not just him I have had at least 1 of every unit just die for no reason.
4. Upgrading buildings. I like this but if you fully upgrade something then deside to trash it to place something else there you can never get those upgrade points back. I took down a max rank barracks because I wanted to move it then could not rank up the new one. When I hit the "why" button it said "Next upgrade in never."
5. Single player anti cheat. I get the cheat block in multi-player but as far as I am concerned there is just no excuse for that in single player.

Things I saw that was not that importent was but big enough to say was
1. No computer ai.
2. no picking the group you want to play as (like if I want warlord/troops b and not warlord/troops a)
3. Gates are really hard to target
4. Some troops seem off power. I went to a farm with my king 1 archer and 2 guards with 1 spear and was beat by 1 horse unit before I even got there and all units was the rank 1 units.
5. if you go to revive your king and hit the button more then once it takes your gold even if you cancel and will not return it. Nor will it give you any extra kings.
6. most of the usable buildings look 100% the same as everything not useable. While it looks nice I can never find my troop buildings.

---Edit
Oh ya and please un mess with the menu. It took me 5 minutes to find out how to save and quit from not only the tiny scrawls but the words being changed as well. I mean how am I suposed to know the difference between leave kingdom and retire? then it goes "Become a republic?" It is fancy and all but please don't mess with the menu.

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