The Flood: Intro [2.2]

Moderator · Aug 14, 2009

23:50, 20th Sep 2009
ap0calypse: Approved

I didn't like the terrain and the camera (way too much blizzard cliffs and bad tileset, the camera really needs some work... if you ever happen to meet Septimus, you can ask him about it ^^).

I liked the story, though...
A lacking cinematic, which still needs a lot of work, but well... I'll just approve it, otherwise nobody will be able to see the next part

Sir_Astral · Aug 14, 2009

I like it

Cyper95 · Aug 14, 2009

Sir_Astral said:
I like it

wow amazing helpfull post i must say anyways my review will come sooner than you know it

Review:
Sound/Special Effects: None so 0/5 i don't count the unit sounds
Terrain: well the terrain was okay with tile variation however the raise/lower function does exist making it look more beautiful and such. Note: why would there be a nelf statue if it is humans?? 2/5
Story: Well this was okay as far as i know 3/5 but you kinda needed the story behind the characters
Cinematic: the way you wrote was kinda shitty (no offense) but using Yeah lets hope so doesn't sound that well try using more old and more like royal words

Vengeancekael · Aug 14, 2009

Sir_Astral said:
I like it

Thanks^^But pls rate and give me some ideas lol and add a little comment and +rep if i did good^^
But note that the map is still in BETA phase!
@Cyper95 Thanks for the review:Well ill add sound effects in the next version,there is a nf statue because the island of the Naga rised and the Naga were Night elves before and the story will be fully revealed in the next part!^^
You can help me if you want,cuz im not that good in the "scripting category"^^

Cyper95 · Aug 14, 2009

okay but you shouldn't double-post use the "Edit" button in the bottom right

TannerHunt7 · Aug 15, 2009

Hmmm... very interesting ill download and try it :thumbs_up:

Vengeancekael · Aug 17, 2009

TannerHunt7 said:
Hmmm... very interesting ill download and try it

btw when you edit one of your posts,then you dont NEED to give a reason,its optional,that way youll save time^^

tomv8 · Aug 17, 2009

awesome

i like it its cool and i like the skins especcialy ^^

Vengeancekael · Aug 17, 2009

tomv8 said:
i like it its cool and i like the skins especcialy ^^

Well thats good news,but how about giving me some ideas to make it even better?

ModelTester · Aug 22, 2009

My Review:
(+)Storyline- The cinematic is incredibly boring. It doesn't really have an attractive plot, and is very slow paced. Can you explain why the Naga want their revenge on the humans?
Example: The Naga lived on the land years ago, however the human had forced them back into the ocean and now the Naga want their revenge.
(+)Animation- There is unit animation in this cinematic. However, most units in your cinematic are standing still like a dummy.

Improvements to be needed
(-)Terrain- The Terrain seemed pretty bland. There was not very much detail and it did not look like a human ruined city.
(-)Music- There is no music in this cinematic. Just plain and boring Warcraft 3 Music.
(-)Camera- The camera movement was very horrible in this cinematic. It kept moving back and forward across the entire map.
(-)Sound/SFX- There is no Sound or Special Effects in this cinematic.
(-)Fog- There is no use of fog in this cinematic.
(-)Scripting/Triggering- Not very good. Your cinematic setup is missing some basic triggers and other elements.

Suggestions
You could use Tranquil's Model http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/king-53861/?prev=d=list&r=20&u=Tranquil

Maybe you can add a flashback or something to make the cinematic a little more interesting.

You could kill off those human units when those Naga Myrmidon surrounded the humans.

Vengeancekael · Aug 22, 2009

(+)Storyline- The cinematic is incredibly boring. It doesn't really have an attractive plot, and is very slow paced. Can you explain why the Naga want their revenge on the humans?
Example: The Naga lived on the land years ago, however the human had forced them back into the ocean and now the Naga want their revenge.

Thats exactly the storyline^^ and thx for your review,ill see what i can do^^

(-)Terrain- The Terrain seemed pretty bland. There was not very much detail and it did not look like a human ruined city.

Its a night elf city and alright i must admit im no good in terraining^^

(-)Music- There is no music in this cinematic. Just plain and boring Warcraft 3 Music.

Ive added custom music!^^

(-)Fog- There is no use of fog in this cinematic.

Ive added some "fog" lulz^^

The cinematic is incredibly boring.

How bout now?XD
Editls vote in the poll and also rate&comment^^Thx

Lore-Wolf · Aug 23, 2009

yeah nice

NAGA :3

only at the end try to make only the option leave or restart

and when the sea turtle and the 3 naga attack the arch and the 3 footys make some humans die >

Vengeancekael · Aug 23, 2009

Lore-Wolf said:
yeah nice NAGA :3

only at the end try to make only the option leave or restart

and when the sea turtle and the 3 naga attack the arch and the 3 footys make some humans die >

Ill see what i can do in the next version^^(version 1.7)
Edit:The Flood:Intro and also the sequel are on hold until the poll is over!
Pls rate and write a comment, if you test the map!Thank you^^
-Vengeancekael

skamigo · Aug 30, 2009

looks neat, I'll try it

Vengeancekael · Aug 31, 2009

Well according to the poll,should i stop updating the map^^

skamigo · Aug 31, 2009

Well the cinimatic isn't so special, but it's good enough to be a prelude of a campaign, which I don't know if you'll make a campaign or just a single map.

Well I woudn't spend too much time at making the cinimatic, but rather at the playable map.

If you'd update this cinimatic, I'd advise to use more doodads to make it better looking (shrub atleast, and rocks).

Vengeancekael · Aug 31, 2009

Well i was planning to create a sequel(not a cinematic,but a playable one^^),it was 50-60% finished,but ive decided to make a cinematic sequel.
Edit:Im still going to update it one more time,its done but i will upload it tomorrow^^
Edit 2:Map has been updated for the last time!(or maybe not....^^)

VampireofBlood · Sep 7, 2009

EPIC EPIC EPIC

. +REP and many thx to you :]

Gorthag · Sep 7, 2009

Vengeancekael said:
But note that the map is still in BETA phase!
A beta must be under v1.0, just so you know

Vengeancekael · Sep 7, 2009

VampireofBlood said:
EPIC EPIC EPIC . +REP and many thx to you :]

Thx and np lulz^^ but im sure that there are alot of things that annoyed u,so tell me^^
Edit:The Map has been updated to version 1.8 and has a whole new beginning!^^

VampireofBlood · Sep 9, 2009

well, the only thing i dislike was the ending, you should cut it off and remain to the frozen throne gamemenu

Papawhiffle · Sep 9, 2009

Why the hell is the filesize so large... I'll review it soon.

Vengeancekael · Sep 9, 2009

Lol ok but i will do that later^^
Edit

art 2 is finished,but i will upload it tomorrow.
Edit 2:New update!Read the changelog in the map description!
Edit 3:Part 2!!!!!!

Papawhiffle · Sep 9, 2009

Okie time to do my review, I guess?

First of all, the plot about nagas, humans, and night elves were absolutely fine.

(-)Terrain: I see some overused doodads on some place. 0/5
(-)Voices/sounds: I would've like to see some voices of it. 2/5 (counting war3 voices)
(-)Camera: Camera didn't make it nice really...2/5

(+)Plot: Love the plots. 4/5
(+)Typings: There were no errors on typing, I loved it. 5/5

So what I can see, I'll give this map an 2.55 estimated to 3, I highlly approve this. And from what I've can see this map can be better.

Vengeancekael · Sep 10, 2009

thx for the review^^

Vengeancekael said:
But note that the map is still in BETA phase!
A beta must be under v1.0, just so you know

Pffff,i dont care!Diablo 3 Warcraft version is 1.18 BETA,or aion is version 1.6 BETA(in us),so who cares?^^XD
Edit:Map has been updated!(alot of changes^^)

supertoinkz · Sep 20, 2009

Im good at hunting gramming errors

1.the comma\period and the next word should have space between.
2. the 4/5 line with the "should unite" there is togheter, its together
3."You foul beasts will not enter Lordaeron" its better to change 'not' into never

things that need change
1.at the last camera, i can see the boundary
2.kill those annoying villagers

3.the first part, i think it needs battle

now its 4.5/5 for me

Vengeancekael · Sep 20, 2009

y thx and maybe vote for approval and rate it,not just type it^^
ill fix the grammer,i dont think i will put a battle in it,because its just an intro and their not supposed to fight right now, or else ill have to rewrite the whole storyline^^
ill fix the camera,and some of the villagers die, thats enough^^No ill kill them all^^

medion555 · Sep 24, 2009

I think this is a very bad cinematic i see no ruins of any city the throne is just some hill with a chair on it and the camera is really really bad

To improve it reduce filezise (how did u manage to get it to 10mb woooow)
PLEASE make the storyline at least acceptable cuz it is boring
And i dont like how the king just stand there
Use better triggers make it more acceptable and maybe Watch
The sect of the holy mother <Search it in maps i think this is one of the best cinematics made

^^i am really serious i dont like this cinematic at all as it is now

Vengeancekael · Sep 24, 2009

To improve it reduce filezise (how did u manage to get it to 10mb woooow)

Alright now,for the last time,filesize doesnt matter in a cinematic,this is just single player so it doesnt really MATTER!^^

PLEASE make the storyline at least acceptable cuz it is boring

The way u are talking to me, is very "annoying",the most important thing in a cinematic is the story,not combat or etc. and the storyline is pretty "original" and "unknown",btw ur the only one complaining about the story,the mod said he really liked it,everyone else said that,but its your opinion,but i like to know why u find it boring!

And i dont like how the king just stand there

What do u want him to do, the Naga witch and the king are talking to each other,not trying to fight-.-

Use better triggers make it more acceptable and maybe Watch

u mean watchable and besides it doesnt really matter how the triggers look, they are functionning properly and i dont understand what u really mean,do u mean the camera or ?

The sect of the holy mother <Search it in maps i think this is one of the best cinematics made

I have seen that one,but what do u want me to learn from it?Its not very useful for this kind of cinematic.
Edit:Some smilies so i dont look serious

^^

XD

medion555 · Sep 25, 2009

k i made some things not that selfexplaining

Maybe make around the king some houses and make the king himself stand in some sort of room instead a small whatever

Ok storyline is quite ok but begin with the begin like the nagaa invaded the human city (with tragic music

)
But just make the story a bit more more uhm smooth

I give it a 3/5 but maybe u could improve it and practice before starting to release the cinematics

Vengeancekael · Sep 25, 2009

around the king some houses and make the king himself stand in some sort of room instead a small whatever

Thats impossible,its a naga island,so forget the houses or the room.

Ok storyline is quite ok but begin with the begin like the nagaa invaded the human city (with tragic music )

Thats part of the story,i didnt show the battle btw the naga and the humans,because that memory is lost.At the beginning,is the "priestress" talking about the past,but its black,because she simply cant remember how it looked like.It could be because that the naga dont want anyone to remember it again,by using some ancient magic,but it could be something else,im not going to reveal anything^^

But just make the story a bit more more uhm smooth

uhm........

I give it a 3/5 but maybe u could improve it and practice before starting to release the cinematics

I personally think that the cinematics i make are acceptable and "releasable",because they have a decent story.Thats the most important thing in a cinematic.

medion555 · Sep 25, 2009

k i thougt that the story whas in an ruined human city xD

and becouse of that i thougt that the naga invaded that certain city or some XD

anyway if its that way its alot better in my openion xD

Sorry man im realy sorry

But i got some idea for a little cinematic about the flood

Do you mind if i give that map to you ?

Edit

K i got you the map its nothing special but just to show you what you can do it took me about 5 minutes to make so its no problem

Down here it is tell me it would be a plesure if i can help you with making cinematics

Vengeancekael · Sep 25, 2009

alright.....everyone does mistakes^^im gonna check it now,altought i just came to reveal a secret....But well im gonna check this first then the secret^^

Edit:Well i just checked it,u couldve at least put it in "cinematic mode" and "letterbox mode on"+the camera is very bad,it goes through the walls the whole time.The way u made the walls,ground is bad.Cuz they were flashing the whole time and why did u use water under the ground?There was water coming out of nowhere-.-
I dont know......It wasnt very "special"
Some smilies so i dont look serious ^^

XD

medion555 · Sep 25, 2009

k that are just minor things and the water is becouse the halls are under tiny bits of water

Suggesting to the name its called (the flood) that kinda means water wave or destruction maybe but it means water in some way

And the camera's letterbox mode and stuff are very easy to fix

Edit

i fixed all stuf you mentioned i think camera's are not too great yet but they dont go trough walls anymore

Vengeancekael · Sep 25, 2009

The secret has been revealed-.-:Outlanders,The War:Intro

medion555 · Sep 25, 2009

How do you mean the secret is revealed ?

And read the post before youres i updated it

Vengeancekael · Sep 25, 2009

alright gonna check it again.I was just going to reveal a map i was working on and i see u already commented on it^^

Edit:Im sry to disappoint u, but i make cinematics usually alone, except big projects, like my Outlanders,The War project.But thx for your help anyway.

ItzaHexGor · Dec 12, 2009

Woo, really late to find this. Pretty nice map, a few tips...

- In the first few seconds, you can see the normal UI while the cinematic mode fades in
- The first line starts '1 hundred'. I'd advise you change that to either '100' or 'One hundred' for consistency's sake (yeah, pretty nitpicky, but I got distracted by it and that's a bad thing to happen on the first line)
- You need a space after your commas, like this. You did the same thing with exclamation marks (!). Punctuation can't replace the gaps between words
- 'The Naga ~~rised~~ rose in at Illidan's command...'
- The gate they close seems to only lead to a whole lot of trees. Maybe make it more open so it looks like it leads to a path?
- Why is there some raised land that the water increases in height to get over? And yet in other areas the same thing doesn't happen
- When the elite Naga guys (custom warrior models) which have the civilians surrounded, it seems weird that they only kill a few of them in total. Why would they kill any at all, and if they were going to kill any, why only kill a few when all the humans are just standing there peacefully? I could understand them killing one or two if the humans were being disruptive, but as it is it just seems random.

Other than that, it all looked pretty good. Hope this helps.

Vengeancekael · Dec 16, 2009

lol thx for these late suggestions, i MIGHT update this again

TheDreadlord · Jan 19, 2010

I watched the cinematic and it is acceptable for me i got only 3 points to suggest you for work:
(1):Add some Raise and Lower in you terrain that way the terrain will really looks BETTER. (Yeah ! <3 the Raise and Lower functions

well, i go out===>[-]) :grin:

(2):KILL those DAMN Humans pleasse,All not only some :xxd:

I wanna show you once more the Screenshot that ModelTester attached.
I insist on that point,all the surrounded units must die,for that purpose,you can Explode or Kill them simply via Triggers after the first line units are killed via the Attack-Order of the Nage Myrmidons.
(3):Try to find a great music that feets the map and import it in you map,not a standard music made by Blizzard.
After that,i will rate it 4 if you improve these points.

Vengeancekael · Jan 23, 2010

lol i don't know why everyone wants me to kill all those prisoners, some of them will not be killed, instead they will be transformed into naga warriors.
The terrain is the ugliest terrain in the world, i agree, although this was my first cinematic and my first map to be released and thus i have improved a lot. Thx for testing

+rep

Blitzschnell · May 16, 2010

Hmm it was boring ..

you should work at the camera it seems bad if it is mostly from top :S 3/5

I dont understand the story :S

Vengeancekael · May 18, 2010

Flood Pack released

The_Olorin · May 21, 2010

Well, cinematic was good, but there are some tings what i would like to say so you could make improvments in your next cinematics.(Cause i guess you wont uptate it anymore :eekani:

)

When the cinematic start next time with the introduction, maybe you could make memory flashback about what you talk. That would make first 30 sec more interesting.

About the terrian. You should make the woods bigger so they would look like in real size.

When you move the camera in the other location, you should make it with apply camera with 0 sec so it would seem like you change camera. Cause when it moves like now it seems that the world is so small.(Or maybe you wanted to look the movie place like this.)

When you end cinematic dont make it so sudenly, fade out, write thanks for watching, or something like that. :wink:

My rate is 5/10.

drhunter · May 23, 2010

It's really nice. 7/10

Vengeancekael · Jul 21, 2010

Lol this is the worst cinematic I've made. Don't expect any thing awesome.

Eldubs · Sep 28, 2010

I like it, keep up the good work.

deepstrasz · May 7, 2016

It could have been interesting but the premise was just ruined by the Naga being turned into impending doom and all or some races having to team up against the tide. Plainly put, it's out of Warcraft.

Lich134 · Feb 24, 2021

waste of time i know its old but you could do better

The Flood: Intro [2.2]

The Flood:Intro 2.2 (Map)

What do you want me to do?

Keep updating the map.

Stop updating it and focus on its sequel.

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