Replaceable Flag

Moderator · May 1, 2016

11:24, 8th May 2016
The_Silent: Looks great and performs well ingame. I do have some suggestions though.

The texture work could be accomplished using ingame textures, which would make the size smaller.
Use an additional "Replaceable ID" texture, since having a team colored background might be good with alpha-ed textures. Say, someone want to have a symbol on a team colored background ect.
Two animations, one where the flag is raised, and one where it is lowered. To make it more useful in "Point capture" maps.

Illidan(Evil)X · May 1, 2016

Additional examples using only in-game textures.

Abbendis · May 1, 2016

Quantity of the Bones on this flag scared me，Are you sure you need to add so many bones？

But，It still is exquisite model，It look more exquisite than all the flags of i seen before。

Abbendis · May 1, 2016

It‘ll be useful
You can start to thinking to use Textures Of The Wc3 Inside，And not something like map import。

Cherrymage · May 2, 2016

Ah, thanks! I needed it so much. 5/5 +rep

SNIper of DARKness · May 2, 2016

Could we have more flag variations?

Cherrymage · May 2, 2016

@SNIper of DARKness:

I think this would help you:

How to use:
1: Create a new destructible.
2: Change the Model File and Portrait to the imported model.
3: Set the Replaceable Texture ID to 1.
4: Set the Replaceable Texture File to the texture you want to use.
5: Profit.

Or did you mean more flagpole variants?
Or if you mean more flags using same base model, just create as many as you want. However for flag units/buildings I think you'll need to change the texture yourself

EDIT: Why did World Editor crash whenever I select the destructible flag?

Illidan(Evil)X · May 2, 2016

SNIper of DARKness said:
Could we have more flag variations?

Possibly. Did you have anything specific in mind?

Directive255 said:
EDIT: Why did World Editor crash whenever I select the destructible flag?

That's odd. It was exported with the official art tools and I made sure it worked properly in both the editor and the game.
What texture are you using as the replacing file?

SNIper of DARKness · May 2, 2016

Yes something like this maybe?
https://0.s3.envato.com/files/113425667/Medieval-Banners-prev.jpg
Or this (same category)
https://www.medievalcollectibles.com/images/Category/medium/347.png

Cherrymage · May 2, 2016

That's odd. It was exported with the official art tools and I made sure it worked properly in both the editor and the game.
What texture are you using as the replacing file?

I used some irregular textures, but then I found the problem and used square textures ("multiples of 2" dimension length).

However some textures do not show up properly, and some show up as three faces on the lower part of the flag

Illidan(Evil)X · May 2, 2016

Do they show up properly in the game, or does the problem persist?

Wasabee · May 2, 2016

I love this idea man. Simple but really useful.

Cherrymage · May 2, 2016

Illidan(Evil)X said:
Do they show up properly in the game, or does the problem persist?

If you mean the other textures, it's solved after I resized the textures to 512*512.

I haven't tested them ingame, but from Editor the two flags were messed up...
And the red color from Nod Flag texture has been overwritten by team colors.
It does work for any other textures, though.

Are the two texture files problematic?

Illidan(Evil)X · May 2, 2016

Sorry, I was referring to the two flags that bugged out. If they work in-game, it's an editor issue and should be fixed by just restarting the editor.
If the problem persist inside the game, there's probably something wrong with the textures you're using.

@SNIper of DARKness:
Does this suffice?

SNIper of DARKness · May 3, 2016

@SNIper of DARKness:
Does this suffice?
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Yes that looks great, could be a tiny beat taller.
Otherwise is perfect.

Illidan(Evil)X · May 5, 2016

Replaceable Banner

Took a bit longer than anticipated, as I had to manually optimize the cloth simulation keyframes, but I believe the end result looks better than the flag pole.

Karkul · Mar 26, 2018

I have an issue, when placing one of the flag, the Editor crash. Any ideas? I get no errors or anything. It simply cease to work.

Illidan(Evil)X · Mar 26, 2018

Possibly a badly formatted texture being used?
Does it crash when you switch it out with another texture?

Karkul · Mar 26, 2018

Yea I could try with a custom wc3 texture I guess

I see the flag when selecting it, I don't see the pole though.

Also I use the version 1.29 of World Editor.

Edit: Maybe it could help, the texture I tried to use is a flag of afghanistan in 64 x 64 blp. It already as an icon. Also the destructible used as a base is a barrel.

Illidan(Evil)X · Mar 26, 2018

Okay. Looks like 1.29 doesn't like textures converted with BLP Laboratory (or at least whatever setting I was using).
That's alarming. I wonder how many textures will be broken on the new patch.
Anyway, here's textures converted with the WC3 Art Tools. They're much larger in size, but guaranteed to work.

Karkul · Mar 26, 2018

It works, Thanks a lot. You deserve rep

It is rare modelers still being very active in the community for a so long service time like you.

For the textures, It was really the compressed textures. Now everything work fine.

Anyway they might be larger in size but with the extended file size limit being around 100mbit now, it don't matter.

XEdmondX · Aug 1, 2020

SNIper of DARKness said:
Could we have more flag variations?

I support it. Maybe you creat original long banner just like this? Or the original all banner? Wouldn't have a bad orc flag with a frostwolf image.

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