22th Dec 2010
General Frank:

- There is no team colour. Add spots of it.
- The birth animation is not like the original naga one. Make the birth animation like the original one.

Still a problem.

Can't you do this with Warcraft doodads?

It's possible, but this is a whole building with animations.
Well, they aren't very good.
The particle counts (Emission Rate and Speed) of both emitters are much to big.
Please reduce it.
Maybe add fire to the braziers, too.

I made the thing on the right in less time than downloading, and importing the model. Yes there is a birth and death, but its just particles, and not much else. The Library shelves arent even different variations.

I'd prefer if this used Naga building skins and was more freehand. Also it would be better if the place where the purple magic flare comes from had something like a brazier.

First of all, this is a building. It is supposed to be built and destroyed. I really do not appreciate your comment which is based on placing few doodads. I know animations are simple but there is not much to do on a building when it comes to animating a building. Particles can be reduced and I might do that. But since there are not much naga building models I made this one for myself.

Yes, but it having animations is only half. If you want it to be good you should really add some freehand.

Alagremm said:

Yes, but it having animations is only half. If you want it to be good you should really add some freehand.

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well I am open for suggestions.

At least have the "building" rise from the ground like other building do, as well as go into the ground when it dies.

Did you make different variations for the library shelves?

darkdeathknight said:

Did you make different variations for the library shelves?

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yes there are two wariations.

I think this building needs a custom roof C:

Hiiiiiiiiii

u model kool

Wath it do?

@misha:
that and some proper surrounding like a coral reef barrier or something naga styled. i dont think bookshelfs, even made of stone, would be what you would call the "walls" of the building. how much hitpoints is it supposed to have? ~17.5?

Well model is uh interesting but it really doesn't look like uh research building kinda. Maybe some ritual altar rather but would be nice if it looked like it wasn't something made out of simple doodads.

All naga buildings are of open type. Spawning Grounds, Coral Bed, Temple of Tides... Those buildings do not have a roof or walls for that matter. This building is not supposed to have 17.5 health, because naked Grunt has more health than armored Footman. As I made this to be research facility it is supposed to be one. And to prevent negative comments I will just note that Naga buildings are made for underwater purposes and there is no need for roof underwater. None of naga buildings (except Shrine of Azshara) have what you are asking me to add so please give advice on how to improve model instead of diminishing its quality.

VeljkoM said:

Well model is uh interesting but it really doesn't look like uh research building kinda. Maybe some ritual altar rather but would be nice if it looked like it wasn't something made out of simple doodads.

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I had doodads wich were named Library Shelf, Naga Circle, braziers and collumns that look like they have been underwater. Since naga summon their buildings I figured that library could be made out of these doodads since it is summoned from underwater. And I put stone blocks for books because paper has tendency to dissolve under water.

Ok how about add some sort of real walls? Also while it is true that naga don't have real roof they still have water-roof sort to speak. And maybe make it uh taller kinda?

VeljkoM said:

Ok how about add some sort of real walls? Also while it is true that naga don't have real roof they still have water-roof sort to speak. And maybe make it uh taller kinda?

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I will do that (except for the roof), besides naga do not have need for roof. And I will do this after approval

Uh sorry the water part was statement rather then approximate advice.

dude, a roof on this and something good that'll support it will really up the rating of your model, especially when the hordes of hivers are bent on utterly rejecting it

good

very useful (and also, there is a lack here on the hive of naga buildings), but overal, it's a nice model indeed.

It would be nice, if the place where the purple magic flare comes from had something like a brazier (as Alagremm noted earlier).

Ok heres a tip:

Make it look a lot more like that. Man I love the Gimp. Happy Modding.

Heres an in-game screenshot.

forgive my ignorance, FunkyDude44... but that is a real model? where did you get it from?

This model is good but my suggestion is : Rise the Building from the floor, add team colour, add decorations, fix the birth animation, wall and etc.

From 2018!

I don't seem to get the birth animation from your model. Please tell if it's me did anything wrong or the model file does not contain a typical naga birth animation?

PK334 said:

From 2018!

I don't seem to get the birth animation from your model. Please tell if it's me did anything wrong or the model file does not contain a typical naga birth animation?

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Hello,
It seems that the naga birth model path has changed with the new patch. The model has to be updated with latest pathing. However my PTR version does not have MPQ files I can open, so it will take me some time to figure this out.

PK334 said:

From 2018!

I don't seem to get the birth animation from your model. Please tell if it's me did anything wrong or the model file does not contain a typical naga birth animation?

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As promised updated Naga Library model.

well this is looking interesting, if not a bit flashy.

not too sure why hive viewer goes berserk in constantly hiding and showing the model.. is that happening ingame as well by any chance?

oh and.. apparently the thing never needed a roof xP

Well If you want I can add a Tiki Hut roof for you. xD It might be a bit flashy, but you know, powerful Naga magic and stuff. I updated the model since a user here could not load birth animation since it was moved to SharedModels\. Anyway, I hope you like it

Champara Bros said:

Well If you want I can add a Tiki Hut roof for you. xD It might be a bit flashy, but you know, powerful Naga magic and stuff. I updated the model since a user here could not load birth animation since it was moved to SharedModels\. Anyway, I hope you like it

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hm.. wonder if that shifting of some model/texture paths would become a problem for some of my models.. I've made enough models to not think about updating each one of them to some developer's whim..

It probably did, but you have so much more models, and I do not update every single one. I am just gonna update the models when people ask for it. What is funny is that since I could not find patch 1.30 mpq archives anywhere, I extracted them from data.000 and built mpqs. However some pathings are not the same as in the game. And you know CRASH on the load. And that is mostly for water and terrain. Like A_Water000.blp is now A.mpq\Water000.blp, which crashed my map until I returned it to A_Water000.blp Weird.

Champara Bros said:

It probably did, but you have so much more models, and I do not update every single one. I am just gonna update the models when people ask for it. What is funny is that since I could not find patch 1.30 mpq archives anywhere, I extracted them from data.000 and built mpqs. However some pathings are not the same as in the game. And you know CRASH on the load. And that is mostly for water and terrain. Like A_Water000.blp is now A.mpq\Water000.blp, which crashed my map until I returned it to A_Water000.blp Weird.

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tbh i still keep the old game and old mpqs, just because i have everything set up and working.. i really don't know if these new updates are still experimental or not

There are some geometry issues on the team coloured parts. The seems to clip and cause weird graphical glitches. Please fix those.