Lord Of The Rings 0.8

Moderator · Oct 22, 2015

[2016-04-09]
Rufus:

Rufus Moderation Note

Note:
I played the Isengard first on this playthrough.

hHre follows a list of things that needs improvement:
-All tooltips needs updating, as some of them are still the standard warcraft orc tooltips, and others had many spelling and grammar errors. Poor english is not a huge problem, but not having changed tooltips is pretty lazy.
-The buildings was strange and didn't feel like they fit together.
-The unit sounds sets would be better if they were replaced with "None". Their standard warcraft voices do not fit the new characters.
-The heroes was not well made. The ones I tried out did not have custom abilities. One of them also had chemical rage, changing the Uruk Leader into an ogre with a goblin on his back. Heroes need a lot of fixes.
-You have imported a lot of models, looking like Lotr units, but there are a lot of things to fix. They don't fit their environment or their own races structures. You have mixed warcraft and LotR together, and it doesn't blend very nicely. You should change UI, all tiles and buildings to make it look better.
-The terrain is not well done. The tiles are strangely placed with orange grass among the otherwise greenish tiles. The woods where I started were made of cityscape trees. Additionally they were in perfect rows and angles, removing all natural feeling from them.
-The creep camps consists mostly of warcraft units, causing a strange LotR and warcraft mix again.

I didn't get a feeling of being in the LotR universe, and I didn't find the gameplay very fun as it wasn't very different from normal melee gameplay. The melee gameplay does not have to be changed, as it could work, but if you decide to go with that, you might want to balance the map layout aswell, as it is impossible to have a fair game as it is now.

The terrain and races wasn't good enough esthetically. There were too many standard warcraft units mixed into what was supposed to be a LotR universe. I wouldn't approve of the terrain if it wasn't supposed to be LotR inspired anyway, as it is lacking in many places, such as poor tile placement, strange tree placement, lack of doodads, and strange mix of cliffs and hills.

This map is not acceptable in its current form, and will need many improvements before it can be approved.

Status set to Awaiting Update.

21th Dec 2015
StoPCampinGn00b: Credits added, back to pending.

15:03, 19th Dec 2015
StoPCampinGn00b: The rules state that the actual creators of resources must be credited. Once you get those, you're map will be checked for approval.

07:20, 23rd Oct 2015
Shadow Fury: Add a credits list please. Judging from the screenshots, you've used lots of custom resources so you must credit their authors. This is a requirement for approval.

Ardenian · Oct 22, 2015

Where is the credit list ?

I also recommend to reduce the screenshot size, they are way too high.

Aldeia · Oct 23, 2015

Ardenian said:
Where is the credit list ?

I also recommend to reduce the screenshot size, they are way too high.

oh damn. forgot about that,
about screens, there are to many, and it wil take a lot of time to resize and reupload them, bcs my internet sucks. ( i coud use that time on making map more).

Ardenian · Oct 23, 2015

It is up to you, of course, to change the screenshots or not, but, for example, the Other pictures won't load for me at first, takes a few 10 seconds to.

Aldeia · Nov 1, 2015

why my map is still pending, i added credit list.

Ardenian · Nov 2, 2015

MadMax said:
why my map is still pending, i added credit list.

Be patient please, someone has to do basic reviewing first and your map is not one of a little kind

Eldin HawkWing · Nov 2, 2015

MadMax said:
why my map is still pending, i added credit list.

Wait For the Moderator Review..+ Rep

Aldeia · Nov 6, 2015

oh , ok ) thx

Zordrak · Dec 18, 2015

When i tried your map the moddels couldn't be loaded and the game couldn't be played. And when i try to download is by your link the download is stopped after 2 minutes and an error appears.

Aldeia · Dec 18, 2015

Zordrak said:
When i tried your map the moddels couldn't be loaded and the game couldn't be played. And when i try to download is by your link the download is stopped after 2 minutes and an error appears.

You need to have file new.mix into warcraft 3 directory (then the map will work)

i don't know what is wrong about download and why it stopped.
hm try this link ( I can't upload on hive zip more then 50 mb)
http://xgm.guru/p/lotr-melee/index?postid=302433#comment94

Zordrak · Dec 24, 2015

I have tested your map now:
-good terrain
-nice gameplay
-nice interface
-what is new data for? What effects does that data have?
-bug: the bestiarium of mordor can't produce units, the units are stucked in the building.
-Very good music.
-you could add some LotR buildings and monuments to the landscrape.
-I especially love the main structure of Mordor.
-I think you could also add some side quests to the game.
So, altogether i give the map 4/5 now.
Greetings, Zordrak

Aldeia · Dec 24, 2015

thanks for your time , and your post,
1) bug: the bestiarium of mordor can't produce units, the units are stucked in the building.
hmm thats interesting, still im working on 0.6 now, and the bestiary will work 100%.
2) -I think you could also add some side quests to the game.
i wanted to keep that secret but i will post here, im working now on custom quest for every race apart, every race builder will be able to build a tavern where player can take quests, the quests and quest reward will be unqiue for every race (some may give some special abilites to units , some may increase their hp and so on)
3) -you could add some LotR buildings and monuments to the landscrape.
the thing about landscape, to make dodoads i need to import decorations directly in map ,and that will make some problems with map size, still i will improve terrain.
4) what is new data for? What effects does that data have?
if u mean the file new.mix (its an file that contain all the resources for map, models, music, and so on)

one more time thanks)

Valandil · Mar 15, 2016

THis mod is what we LotR fans need. Glad to see that with a new upgrade this map become better!

Aldeia · Mar 17, 2016

Valandil said:
THis mod is what we LotR fans need. Glad to see that with a new upgrade this map become better!

thank you)

Rufus · Apr 8, 2016

I think you should the short instruction in the read me file to your description, just to show people how easy it is to use. I was reluctant to try this out at first since I have never encountered something like it before, so a clarification here might add more interest from potential downloaders.
You should also mention that the mpq file is 55.1 mb in size, so people will know what they are actually downloading.

I will review this soon.

Rufus · Apr 9, 2016

Rufus Moderation Note

Note:
I played the Isengard first on this playthrough.

hHre follows a list of things that needs improvement:
-All tooltips needs updating, as some of them are still the standard warcraft orc tooltips, and others had many spelling and grammar errors. Poor english is not a huge problem, but not having changed tooltips is pretty lazy.
-The buildings was strange and didn't feel like they fit together.
-The unit sounds sets would be better if they were replaced with "None". Their standard warcraft voices do not fit the new characters.
-The heroes was not well made. The ones I tried out did not have custom abilities. One of them also had chemical rage, changing the Uruk Leader into an ogre with a goblin on his back. Heroes need a lot of fixes.
-You have imported a lot of models, looking like Lotr units, but there are a lot of things to fix. They don't fit their environment or their own races structures. You have mixed warcraft and LotR together, and it doesn't blend very nicely. You should change UI, all tiles and buildings to make it look better.
-The terrain is not well done. The tiles are strangely placed with orange grass among the otherwise greenish tiles. The woods where I started were made of cityscape trees. Additionally they were in perfect rows and angles, removing all natural feeling from them.
-The creep camps consists mostly of warcraft units, causing a strange LotR and warcraft mix again.

I didn't get a feeling of being in the LotR universe, and I didn't find the gameplay very fun as it wasn't very different from normal melee gameplay. The melee gameplay does not have to be changed, as it could work, but if you decide to go with that, you might want to balance the map layout aswell, as it is impossible to have a fair game as it is now.

The terrain and races wasn't good enough esthetically. There were too many standard warcraft units mixed into what was supposed to be a LotR universe. I wouldn't approve of the terrain if it wasn't supposed to be LotR inspired anyway, as it is lacking in many places, such as poor tile placement, strange tree placement, lack of doodads, and strange mix of cliffs and hills.

This map is not acceptable in its current form, and will need many improvements before it can be approved.

Status set to Awaiting Update.

Aldeia · Apr 9, 2016

Rufus said:
Rufus Moderation Note

Note:
I played the Isengard first on this playthrough.

hHre follows a list of things that needs improvement:
-All tooltips needs updating, as some of them are still the standard warcraft orc tooltips, and others had many spelling and grammar errors. Poor english is not a huge problem, but not having changed tooltips is pretty lazy.
-The buildings was strange and didn't feel like they fit together.
-The unit sounds sets would be better if they were replaced with "None". Their standard warcraft voices do not fit the new characters.
-The heroes was not well made. The ones I tried out did not have custom abilities. One of them also had chemical rage, changing the Uruk Leader into an ogre with a goblin on his back. Heroes need a lot of fixes.
-You have imported a lot of models, looking like Lotr units, but there are a lot of things to fix. They don't fit their environment or their own races structures. You have mixed warcraft and LotR together, and it doesn't blend very nicely. You should change UI, all tiles and buildings to make it look better.
-The terrain is not well done. The tiles are strangely placed with orange grass among the otherwise greenish tiles. The woods where I started were made of cityscape trees. Additionally they were in perfect rows and angles, removing all natural feeling from them.
-The creep camps consists mostly of warcraft units, causing a strange LotR and warcraft mix again.

I didn't get a feeling of being in the LotR universe, and I didn't find the gameplay very fun as it wasn't very different from normal melee gameplay. The melee gameplay does not have to be changed, as it could work, but if you decide to go with that, you might want to balance the map layout aswell, as it is impossible to have a fair game as it is now.

The terrain and races wasn't good enough esthetically. There were too many standard warcraft units mixed into what was supposed to be a LotR universe. I wouldn't approve of the terrain if it wasn't supposed to be LotR inspired anyway, as it is lacking in many places, such as poor tile placement, strange tree placement, lack of doodads, and strange mix of cliffs and hills.

This map is not acceptable in its current form, and will need many improvements before it can be approved.

Status set to Awaiting Update.

thank you , for your review, with every update im changing a lot of things.

about terrain , im already starting doing locations from lotr - for example in 0,7t i added Minas-Thirith.
also if you played as Isengard , might notice that there is a hero " Azog " so soon enough il change almost all skills descriptions of all heroes like his,also in future 0.8 the Hero with alchemist spell will be removed ( the thing is there are some heroes that i created at the very early time like 0.3 vs of the map, and still didnt changed them, because i work alone on the project, and triggers take a lot of times, bug fixing and other things, also still working alot on survival mode.),
about UI, i did not find any UI that fits for LOTR theme,

Rufus · Apr 9, 2016

Glad I could help!
Seems like you are ready to put even more work than you already have in this map!
Good!

However, be warned not to update it too frequently.
I prefer not downloading it a thousand times for a few updates each time.
If you wish to update it more frequently, use the map development forum.

Aldeia · Apr 9, 2016

Rufus said:
Glad I could help!
Seems like you are ready to put even more work than you already have in this map!
Good!

However, be warned not to update it too frequently.
I prefer not downloading it a thousand times for a few updates each time.
If you wish to update it more frequently, use the map development forum.

ye i know , the delay from 0.6 to 0.7 was like 1mth i think

Rufus · Apr 9, 2016

Good.
That shows you are not trying to rush it either.

Good luck, and happy mapmaking!

XSpeedyBoy · Jan 2, 2017

Man you can say to me how do i get new.mix file?
Please answer me!

Aldeia · Apr 9, 2017

XSpeedyBoy said:
Man you can say to me how do i get new.mix file?
Please answer me!

ehm in the zip, (just read and you will find the Button Download Here) or got through ling from my profile to my project and download it there

-prey- · Dec 3, 2018

i have putted the new.mix file in but still the map doesn't work, i have tried reloading and stuff but it doesn't seem to work. Besides i dont have the same files as you when i look at you're screen picture

Barade · Dec 15, 2018

Just from the start:
- black loading screen
- "standart" instead of "standard".
- No information about the different modes before you have to select them. Info should be on the loading screen?
- Gandalf's model does not work (he is invisible)
- Gandalf's spell "Wizard intelligence" increases intelligence permanently?? Seems rather unfair.
- Spelling mistake in the tooltip of "Wizard intelligence".
- Sorcerer magic seems unfair too -> increases intelligence.
- Spelling mistake in the tooltip of Sorcerer magic.
- I set two enemies to Computer and they had completely invisible units (buildings, workers etc.), not sure which race they got.
- Then I played elves after Gondor and all buildings are invisble.
- I am not sure if the terrain is supposed to be a part of Middle Earth? I start in Minas Tirith but where is Osgiliath and Mordor?
- Creep spots are really huge and there are enemy heroes, so this might affect leveling heroes.
- Some creep units are invisble.
- I cannot play in teams.
- Why are there four fixed enemy players? I guess for survival mode?
- The other players are hard to reach. Compare the map with a standard melee map where every opponent can be easily reached.

Conclusion:
- Many corrupt models => invisible
- No clear goal.
- Random creeps like Lord Garithos?!
- Many standard units -> more custom models would be cool (of course they should work)
- Many spelling mistakes.
- Unbalanced spells.

I really like the idea and the effort put into the map (which I can see in the YouTube videos) but I would have preferred something like a standard Warcraft III melee map with the new races.
Creeps could be replaced by LotR units, too.
Survival mode is not that important to me.

Please fix the loading screen and models. Otherwise, I cannot play the map at all!
I would have voted higher if the models would actually work

Aldeia · Dec 29, 2018

-prey- said:
i have putted the new.mix file in but still the map doesn't work, i have tried reloading and stuff but it doesn't seem to work. Besides i dont have the same files as you when i look at you're screen picture

mix archives does not work on 1.30+
(if you use 1.28 and lower it should work if you put the new.mix in the warcraft 3 folder)

Aldeia · Dec 29, 2018

Barade said:
Just from the start:
- black loading screen
- "standart" instead of "standard".
- No information about the different modes before you have to select them. Info should be on the loading screen?
- Gandalf's model does not work (he is invisible)
- Gandalf's spell "Wizard intelligence" increases intelligence permanently?? Seems rather unfair.
- Spelling mistake in the tooltip of "Wizard intelligence".
- Sorcerer magic seems unfair too -> increases intelligence.
- Spelling mistake in the tooltip of Sorcerer magic.
- I set two enemies to Computer and they had completely invisible units (buildings, workers etc.), not sure which race they got.
- Then I played elves after Gondor and all buildings are invisble.
- I am not sure if the terrain is supposed to be a part of Middle Earth? I start in Minas Tirith but where is Osgiliath and Mordor?
- Creep spots are really huge and there are enemy heroes, so this might affect leveling heroes.
- Some creep units are invisble.
- I cannot play in teams.
- Why are there four fixed enemy players? I guess for survival mode?
- The other players are hard to reach. Compare the map with a standard melee map where every opponent can be easily reached.

Conclusion:
- Many corrupt models => invisible
- No clear goal.
- Random creeps like Lord Garithos?!
- Many standard units -> more custom models would be cool (of course they should work)
- Many spelling mistakes.
- Unbalanced spells.

I really like the idea and the effort put into the map (which I can see in the YouTube videos) but I would have preferred something like a standard Warcraft III melee map with the new races.
Creeps could be replaced by LotR units, too.
Survival mode is not that important to me.

Please fix the loading screen and models. Otherwise, I cannot play the map at all!
I would have voted higher if the models would actually work

What version of Warcraft 3 did you use?
(if its 1.30 official patch, then it wont work because the blizzard cut the support of custom archives, i am currently working on new version without an archive)

Barade · Dec 29, 2018

Yes, 1.30.2.1113.

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