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LOAP GOLD 3

LOAP GOLD 3

Classic Life of a Peasant with a fully developed criminal record & policing system, a political system, updated models, a new weapons system, and a new factions system (mafia, cartel, street gang). Go to school, get a job, join a faction, commit petty crime--whatever your peasant heart desires.

Changes from LOAP Gold/Reborn include:
-Players can now join a faction (with requirements to work towards) in addition to a job, and multiple people can join a single faction.
-new control point system;
-new political system for mayor (set police pay, legalize or criminalize guns/drugs, set police investigation use of force standards, and set a curfew, among other powers);
-new crime and policing system (can now rob players or their investments, violence increases criminal record, added both a automated and player-hero [i.e., detective in addition to computer AI] police system, among other additions);
-added private investments, farms, and other things players can purchase, which give a reason for player development;
-added a new busted/wasted system for when your hero is arrested or killed;
-added a gym for hero stat development;
-added a new projectile system for guns. Similar to that of the epic (and missed) map ROTN;
-some changes to map layout. Shrunk the city portion to keep players close by;
-updated to 24 players (LOAP Reforged used my edit prior to additions above);
-added custom models, something I felt LOAP Gold always lacked;
-other changes.

This is based on a unprotected version of LOAP Reborn (although I removed the excess fluff so the base for my edit was basically LOAP Gold). There have been hundreds of loaps, but as far as I know, none have implemented a crime/police and gun/weapon (i.e., projectile) system like this has, or been updated to include modern models (excluding ascension, which is a pretty different game). This is not supposed to be the best map or loap ever made. I don't pretend it is and don't intend to spend 100 hours making it so. It's basically a improvement to LOAP Gold (since its still played) to make it more entertaining and add replay value. I think this preserves the simplicity of LOAP Gold, a major reason its still played, while improving key aspects to make it more fun.

Posting here now as I've added enough that its a standalone functional version, but will release some updates with new more minor additions/changes.


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Please see Models, Skins, and Icons used from Hive Workshop

Alternative Giant Rats (Direfury)
Black Hawk (Direfury)
BlackOps Marine (Grey Knight)
CaneProd (Misha)
Console (Fingolfin)
Cowboy Hat (Blood Raven)
CritterTurtle (Kimbo)
Croc Purple (Croc Purple)
discofloor (RightField)
Double Barreled Shotgun (ikillforeyou)
EliteLightArmor (Sin'dorei300)
Explosion (stonneash)
Laboratory - Acid Lab, Laboratory - Lightning Generator,
Laboratory - Water tube (Scythy Dervish)
Laptop (Trollschnitzel)
Lion Male, Lion Female (aka Lioness) (Kuhneghetz)
M1 Abrams Battle Tank (Illidan(Evil)X)
RoadBlock_White (RoadBlock_White )
m4_ByEpsilon (epsilon)
Refuse Collection by chilla_killa (chilla_killa)
Potato Masher Grenade (HerrDave)
Police Officer (HerrDave)
Police car (skrab)
Pistol (Kitabatake)
Modern Cars Pack (purparisien)
Metal Fence (Teaspoon)
M7s (GhostThruster)
ScoutTower (jk2pach)
Smoke Grenade V0.9 (stonneash)
Stingray (variation 1) (Stingray (variation 1))
SwatRiot (Oliver)
Tiger (Kuhneghetz)
UD-Racer (Lubbe)
Ultimate Explosion --- Massive Explosion (WILL THE ALMIGHTY)
US Ranger (qassamzed)
UTN Regular (Cavman)
Cavman (KC)
VillagerMan (Goldwolf)
yellow_taxi (eubz)


BTNFlameThrower1 (BTNFlameThrower1)
BTNFlameThrower1 (The_Silent)
BTNLaptop (Zombie)
Btnmp5, Btnm16 (Btnm16)
BTNPistol (Jas.per)
BTNRevolver (KelThuzad)
BTNRifleAk47 (lieutang)
BTNSyringeStimpack (The_Silent)
black suited villager.blp (yakonshus)

Systems:

Gaulish Spellpack V1.00 [GUI] [MUI]--redscores

(I heavily modified this for shotgun item ability)

GUI Bullet/Arc Missile System v1.02--NFWar

(I heavily modified this to allow for machine-gun functionality)

Combined Camera Slider System--Sabe

Outside Resources:
Sounds:
-External media distributed under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 license.
-Mike Koenig--Gun Sounds

Testers / Idea Contributors:
Fireup, InMyMind, Perez, Room, Snad, Kaylessa

Prior Loap Map Makers & Notable Mentions:
DelYlonSlaye, New Order & Dank Team Productions, OrderofPhoenix, Soliloquy, KulZernite, Septimus, dankStoner, -Coff-, Moon-Goddess
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LOAP GOLD 3 (Map)

LOAP GOLD 3 (Map)

LOAP GOLD 3 (Map)

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deepstrasz
Still waiting for the credits list.
The mandatory credits list was added. Considering the tons of different and new features you implemented in this LOAP, I'm setting this to Approved .

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What does this one bring new or how is it that different from the myriads of such maps around?
Do you have permission from the original author to edit and upload?

A credits list in the map description with the names of the authors whose resources you've used is mandatory. That includes models, skins, icons, custom spells, systems. Also, sounds, music and everything outside this site.
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FSK

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I pretty much explained how its different in the description. There is really no other loap like it that works in reforged, has 24 player functionality, has a projectile system for weapons, has toggleable laws/policies set by the mayor that impact the game, and has a crime and police AI system. It's definitely unique in that manner. It also uses all the custom resources for modern models that have been uploaded here over the years that are lacking in almost all other loaps. This also brings together features from many other loap maps, some now unplayable, that were based on gold or reborn (like loap make your own gang).

Additionally, its basically the only loap map aside for ascension being played right now.

I'll post the references when I get some time.

Permissions: there have been many editors of loap gold (which reborn, made ~a decade ago, was based on), its really unclear who made it first (and loap gold was originally based on some unknown loap from ages ago). What is clear is most of those versions are defunct: some don't work in reforged, some have bugs or abuses that ruin game play and the maps are protected, and no has edited them in years. And as mentioned, this is pretty unique from most or all prior loaps (of which there are hundreds) in terms of the new features added. Loap Gold 2 is quite different than this and still offers a very simple and unique game play that won't be detracted from by this version being available.
 
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This game is really fun to play as a criminal or police officer. Not much else though. There are currently fournon-criminal non-faction jobs that pay well and other jobs that pay normal loap rates. The four jobs are mayor (of course), firefighter, banker, and lifeguard. The chemist used to be op, but I don't see anyone play it any more. These jobs are the best because they earn a lot of money. Mayor gets tax money and can adjust taxes, so the earning potential can be high. Taxes can be up to 40% easily if wanted. Luckily, you can just refuse to pay taxes. Fire fighter earns 1,000 gold per fire, which is a lot. You can also buy units to automatically kill fires around the map too. I used to do that before I found the lifeguard. Banker gets 1,000 per note but also spawns in two notes each delivery to the big bank in the center of the map. You can have 12 inventory slots in total, so I assume you can get 12k per trip easily. Lifeguard is by far my favorite job. You get 500 per bully kill (the enemies that spawn to hurt the swimmers) and 500 per saved swimmer. You can quit the job multiple times to spawn in multiple bullies and shoot them to death for very easy money. I got 50k in 10 minutes at the beginning of the game because of this method. It's great for leveling too.

The bad jobs are the jobs that give little money. That's garbage collector, mailman, graveyard (comparatively), waste management, etc. These jobs give so little money that turning to (easy) crime is much more profitable and goal-serving. Garbage collector is never played, mailman will give 40 per mail delivered, waste collector pays little, requires fighting mobs for money, and cannot be left for a few minutes after getting the job. You get taxes though, I guess. Still not worth it though. You can automate graveyard and waste management, but it's not worth the investment. Literally. Investment theft gives 2,000 gold per investment stolen. It's much better to do casual crime and run and gun than to work a "real" job.

On that note, the end goal of this loap is to join a faction. I find this a way better solution than loap gold actually. It's much more proactive in forcing players to make their own fun than the original. For example, you can get involved in crime directly and profit off of it instead of helping the big factions for no real reason at all. Players can cause trouble for money or become police officers themselves for a (GOOD) wage. You can also sell and make your own drugs instead of depending on one apathetic player to sell you the good stuff. I've played many LOAP Gold games where I would get rich and just do drugs all game, doing nothing. I never liked how loap gold basically had nothing going for it, and this game fixes that.

On the other end, crime or fighting crime (mostly the former) is the best way to earn a wage in this loap. There's not much reason to join a job for the entire game when you can rob an investment for 2,000 gold each or rob the bank for 500 per gold coin. The danger is there yes, but at most, you'll lose a level if jailed and half your gold and a level if killed. If anything, you need to watch out for bad cops who will kill you, jail you, or kill you in jail, if you decide to live a life of crime. Corruption is a very real thing here, and while you can fight back, you should do it in the mid game with proper planning. It won't be too hard anyways since in the mid game you'll probably have more than enough money and allies to go against the one player police officer.

The crime to police to citizen ration is very high. You''ll have multiple people join a gang, the mafia, or the cartel vs the police since police isn't a very viable position. I think it needs to be much more prized in order to have people flock to it. Jobs are mostly shite right not so that could be a good reason. Police pays VERY well - especially if you have a pro-police mayor. You can get something lik 2,500 gold every 100 seconds as a police officer. It's not crime levels of income but it should be enough to encourage people to stop taking bad jobs. Also, the police officer hero (which you lose after quitting) has a gun ability that costs no mana and has no CD. The hero is very strong.

On mayors, they end up usually being corrupt for no reason. There are laws that they can enact that will likely impact citizens more than mafiosos. Barely though. Searching without a warrant, no quarter fighting for police, etc. Just the kind of stuff that dictators would use. They can set curfews and strict ID laws that I have seen hurt a regular citizen. It doesn't hurt criminals because they're already unallied to police. The police will automatically hunt down criminals with swat teams and be unallied already. If you're a citizen, you likely have no units to protect you and you might not even have a good gun if you don't know better. If you do, you can also have your crime rating go up if they're banned. At 5 CR, you'll be hunted by swat.

Even though players aren't usually police, the AI police are everywhere. Police constantly patrol every street corner and are stationed at some crossroads already, towers are in place in most of the map, and police, swat, and national guard spawn if you have a high enough crime rating (CR). They have multiple spawn points and if you try to spawn kill, which I have, they'll out spawn your units. Even if you have 100 units, they'll spawn in groups of 12 constantly to kill all of your units. You can't destroy the police. It's as if the city is a police state or something.

This is a good game and I can go on, but it has a lot of obvious flaws when it comes to playing it straight. I haven't even covered everything but I feel I went through enough detail to show how this game is played. Get more people to play as police, make some jobs pay way more, and maybe defund the police. It's a bit overkill for something that ends up not working in the mid game. Or just re-work it so it's harder to be a criminal. There used to be a permanent death feature where you died, you lost everything. That made being a criminal worth it and could balance it out again.
 

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The mandatory credits list was added. Considering the tons of different and new features you implemented in this LOAP, I'm setting this to Approved .
 
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-Lifeguard is spelled lifegarud
-You can have multiple roles if you repick
-Roles have the prosecutor's spell to prosecute players
-Bioswat has no texture
-Bullies can be charmed and used to train units... and other bullies...
-Woman can also charm police vans if they're spawned on them (they have a timer though)
-Bank does not work for anyone but blue I think? Never really tested but I assume it's still true
-You can fly into the national guard base without getting CR
-You can fly into the national guard TREASURY and drop yourself off. You cannot pick yourself up though
-You can fly and drop into the small bank vault and pick yourself up from inside the vault if needed
-You keep the police contractor job after leaving police, allowing you to make police units and the food cache very early in the game. No need for houses
-You can keep lumberjack job if you pick yourself up with a helicopter and stay in it.
-The scorpion is always unallied even if you bet for it to win.
-Still very possible to kill the scorpion this way and I KNOW IT. I've yet to find a way to do it though. Probably with spells or snipers or mafia mortar launchers
-Mafia fire spell is VERY loud and everyone can hear it. Also it's useless.
-The godfather... is immortal, can be trained in the gym, and can wield an AK47 if you drop it and he picks it up. You can harass other players with this invulnerable HERO.
-Also, His two lackies are invulnerable and mario gigante has taunt despite being invulnerable
-Mafia icebox can "train" bread, fruit, and milk, but only fruit appears as an item. In the description, fruit says it can be eaten but it cannot.
-You can kill civilian cars for no CR and free exp from angry drivers
-War on police lasts forever
-You can get "a police officer has been shot and killed" spammed on you if you keep killing cops.

Only suggestion is to cool it with the anti air near the hospital and properly make the doctor job un-spawn killable by making it so only hero can get gold from kills. Loap ascension did that to a degree, so it's not impossible. Open up the map. This teleporting this really ruins it for me. I hate having to maneuver my helicopter up into the park and downwards to get to the gangs.

E: More things found. Will add more to this list as I find them.

-Sewer turtle has no texture
-Cops get their CR reset after a few minutes, allowing me to steal from all the investments with NO consequences. Wow.
-Cops can use their gun spell to continuously kill the AI drug lord's units for easy levels. I got level 15 in a few minutes with this. Not even joking. Probably less than 10 minutes counting the one death from carelessness.
-If not done already, Doctor is WAY overpowered. So much money from that job + EXP. Old man + doctor = easily hundreds of thousands of gold. Or you could just like, get really ripped at the gym.
-You can use an autoclicker at the gym and get agility EXP really fast and then strength with your attack speed
-Police chief doesn't work if you have the requirements. That or I had CR? I don't think I did at the time though. It should list the requirements nearby or something.
EDIT: Police chief works with mayor approval.
-I remember getting multiple "criminal" roles after trying to get one. Never tested.

E2:

-Police cannot marry
-You can't legalize prostitution yet...
-Library cards don't work. Can't get a card.
-Can't get legit ids if you lose yours but you can get fake ids for some reason
-I Crashed from a HUGE traffic jam near police and I don't know why.
 

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-Lifeguard is spelled lifegarud Fixed
-You can have multiple roles if you repick Fixed this and other outstanding issues with roles (only 1, loose when dead, etc)
-Roles have the prosecutor's spell to prosecute players Removed
-Bioswat has no texture Fixed
-Bullies can be charmed and used to train units... and other bullies... Removed charm from woman
-Woman can also charm police vans if they're spawned on them (they have a timer though) Removed charm from woman
-Bank does not work for anyone but blue I think? Never really tested but I assume it's still true Bank works for everyone as far as i can tell...
-You can fly into the national guard base without getting CR Fixed this. Now get CR for hero's or flying units entering
-You can fly into the national guard TREASURY and drop yourself off. You cannot pick yourself up though Added air blockers to prevent this
-You can fly and drop into the small bank vault and pick yourself up from inside the vault if needed Made it so you have to fly through the main door, and cant enter the vault via air.
-You keep the police contractor job after leaving police, allowing you to make police units and the food cache very early in the game. No need for houses I tested this and when I quit the police job I loose all police units correctly, not sure what your seeing?
-You can keep lumberjack job if you pick yourself up with a helicopter and stay in it. Added air pathing blockers around the jobs
-The scorpion is always unallied even if you bet for it to win. Not an easy way to fix this and I dont see why it would be needed
-Still very possible to kill the scorpion this way and I KNOW IT. I've yet to find a way to do it though. Probably with spells or snipers or mafia mortar launchers lol
-Mafia fire spell is VERY loud and everyone can hear it. Also it's useless. What is the 'Mafia Fire Sound'?
-The godfather... is immortal, can be trained in the gym, and can wield an AK47 if you drop it and he picks it up. You can harass other players with this invulnerable HERO. Set Godfathers movement speed to 0
-Also, His two lackies are invulnerable and mario gigante has taunt despite being invulnerable Also set these unit's movement speed to 0
-Mafia icebox can "train" bread, fruit, and milk, but only fruit appears as an item. In the description, fruit says it can be eaten but it cannot. Fixed milk. Others had off errors with item abilities that don't seem to work, so I removed them since they weren't really needed anyways
-You can kill civilian cars for no CR and free exp from angry drivers now increases criminal record
-War on police lasts forever
-You can get "a police officer has been shot and killed" spammed on you if you keep killing cops. Fixed

Only suggestion is to cool it with the anti air near the hospital and properly make the doctor job un-spawn killable by making it so only hero can get gold from kills. Loap ascension did that to a degree, so it's not impossible. Open up the map. This teleporting this really ruins it for me. I hate having to maneuver my helicopter up into the park and downwards to get to the gangs. Changed up how this works. Removed one of the teleport triggers. Added back exit from doctor.

E: More things found. Will add more to this list as I find them.

-Sewer turtle has no texture
-Cops get their CR reset after a few minutes, allowing me to steal from all the investments with NO consequences. Wow. Cops can no longer steal from private investments
-Cops can use their gun spell to continuously kill the AI drug lord's units for easy levels. I got level 15 in a few minutes with this. Not even joking. Probably less than 10 minutes counting the one death from carelessness. Made cops intrinsic pistol ability cost mana
-If not done already, Doctor is WAY overpowered. So much money from that job + EXP. Old man + doctor = easily hundreds of thousands of gold. Or you could just like, get really ripped at the gym. agreed. nerfed $ bonus for killing germs
-You can use an autoclicker at the gym and get agility EXP really fast and then strength with your attack speed
-Police chief doesn't work if you have the requirements. That or I had CR? I don't think I did at the time though. It should list the requirements nearby or something.
EDIT: Police chief works with mayor approval.
-I remember getting multiple "criminal" roles after trying to get one. Never tested. updated roles system

E2:

-Police cannot marry
-You can't legalize prostitution yet...
-Library cards don't work. Can't get a card.
-Can't get legit ids if you lose yours but you can get fake ids for some reason
-I Crashed from a HUGE traffic jam near police and I don't know why.
 
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-Swat kill squads can kill you while in courthouse to see whether you're guilty or not
-Kill squads will kill you AFTER getting out of the court. I think once they're summoned they'll try to kill you until you get in a vehicle. This also means regular police will kill your control points, forcing you to get them again.
-Mcstankey's anti air is VERY bad. If you get your helicopter trapped in there, you'll have to move your helicopter to the stairs first before trying to get out. Otherwise, your helicopter will try to get out and get teleported back in the builder.

-Mafia fire spell is VERY loud and everyone can hear it. Also it's useless. What is the 'Mafia Fire Sound'?


Mafia fire sound is the fire spell that the basic units have. It's the same spell you get for equipping an AK47

-You can accidentally shoot an NPC car and get unallied to the police. You cannot do this with other units, factions, etc.
-You can actually kill light blue's units with a regular pistol. I never realized it until now.
-You can randomly become the enemy of the cartel, mafia, and gang for some reason. I was gang and became the enemy to the cartel and mafia even though I never messed with them. There's no reason to become their enemies either. Maybe because of carjacking?
-Gang barracks has druggy's upgrade for body armor, not gangs. Might be because I had 2/3 upgrades for defense
-Completion text for gang tower is gang slniger or something like that. It'll say "completed gang sligner" or something.
It would be a good idea to add text showing what you get / lose from getting arrested, robbing investments, etc.
-Mafia players can force red (AI mafia) to make builders to make more barracks to make more units but gang cannot. Pretty sure gang is the only one that can't do this. It makes the gang way weaker than it needs to be.
-TANKS. They screw my crap up. As gang, they're impossible to counter unless you have a strong hero. Really bad. They're infinite too. It wrecks my army because I rely on numbers. Since their attacks do AOE, my troops can't do anything. It would be solved if they were limited. I think like, 5+ spawn in the base and eventually destroy my mini bases.
-My hero is the black male, level 17. Only 9 int. I literally can't get enough int by leveling to get doctor. I expect otherwise honestly.
-Druggy AI units stopped spawning for some reason. I like it though since it means I can FINALLY take over a faction.
-Town can somehow get prosecuted over and over again
-Doing -name will not put a space between your number and name. Doing -name Player and being player 3 would read as 3)Player instead of 3) Player
-You can allow ground units to go into the military base with no consequence
-You can rob town heroes for MASSIVE cash. I love it personally but understand if it's gonna be patched.

-A drug lord upgrade requires pot barn but you can't make pot barns. Might be for druggy, but it doesn't work for the 50k house.
-Drug stacking still doesn't work. Click stacked drugs and it'll use all of them for the effect of one

-new version swamp turtles still don't have textures
-Wastewater sewer plant job's circle doesn't have mana or the spell itself should not cost mana since I guess other circle spells don't require mana
-Sewer job says you have to wait TEN minutes to quit it. It says on the text when trying to quit. Why. That's like, an entire game of loap before everyone quits. People will literally quit by then lol
-Sewer wanderer still has possession spell. It's basically a banshee with a different name and unit photo lol

-battle arena is just unused space
-You can't get a library card from the library
-mechanic near druggy base (where you buy base game gang units) requires lumber to repair. It would be a lot better if anyone could use mechanic to repair their vehicles and bases. Or just straight up use any unit I guess. Still, it's from base WC3 and we can't get lumber.

Suggestions:

Honestly I just say finally make it so you can fully beat police or mafia or druggy. The last player in our game agreed at least. Also make it so you can fly over the oceans. It would be nice to beat the police as mafia or something in the hour of gameplay then leave than just trying your best to beat them. The infinite spawn can be made into a police budget that can run out and collected through taxes or something. You can even make the police even more ruthless to compensate. They're a bit easy right now until the tanks start to ruin everything.

Also, check of loap parvenu if you haven't. That loap has a few ideas you've expanded on, but also ideas that you can implement and expand on yourself.
 
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-As terrorist, you can take yourself hostage, getting 4k and tping you to the park.
EDIT: You can go into the jail with any hero multiple times to get 4k each. I was able to get 55k in one try in the first few minutes of the game with this exploit.
-Mafia and druggy will randomly unally you if you have enough CR. My CR was 7 and gang, mafia, and druggy unallied me.
-You can die from mafia or druggy (who will find you) while getting arrested by cops. Cops being the unit cop, not the van.
-Terrorist doesn't have any documentation on its commands. Is their a command to close the terrorist base? There's a command to open and close the jail, but it's not documented in F9.
-Two milk items spawns in once the first hero is chosen. It doesn't matter what hero and the milk only spawns once.

E 1/6/2022:
-Grammar error when picking a character. "Your a black man" vs the correct grammar "You're a black man."
-Sprint is tool top missing as well as some spells from black and white man. Probably all heroes have tool top missing spells.
-AK47 is really really bad. What was a really fun way to start the game, running and gunning, has now become impossible because AK47 doesn't hit and the -pistols don't stack up in ammo, damage, and range.
-Ak47 has the rifle description

E2:

Casino is way screwed up. Very bad.
-All hotkeys for coins are G, so you can't use hotkeys for purchasing or selling coins
-Selling Coin values are wrong. I think selling coins is meant to but 5, 25, 125, and 250, but it's you're actually selling 50, 250, 1250, and 2500.
-Buying coin values are wrong. It's a 10x multiplier so you mean to buy 5 coins for 20 gold but you're actually buying 50 coins for 20 gold.
-With all this in mind, you can buy coins and then immediately sell them for a profit.
-I can't even put all the stuff wrong with this into words. Even the messages on the screen after selling the max amount of coins is wrong. It says sold 250 coins for 10,000 gold. All the values and messages need to be changed.
-Disgruntled worker is spelled "Disgruntalled worker"

-You CAN spawn kill the scorpion with rocket towers (or probably any other tower) and mortars.
 
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-As terrorist, you can take yourself hostage, getting 4k and tping you to the park. Hopefully Fixed (to-be in next version, which will be 3.2.3)
EDIT: You can go into the jail with any hero multiple times to get 4k each. I was able to get 55k in one try in the first few minutes of the game with this exploit. Hopefully fixed
-Mafia and druggy will randomly unally you if you have enough CR. My CR was 7 and gang, mafia, and druggy unallied me. I think that was coincidence. They will unally you if a player-hero who is a member of that faction is unallied to you.
-You can die from mafia or druggy (who will find you) while getting arrested (detained?) by cops. Cops being the unit cop, not the van.
This will take some time to fix, but will address.
-Terrorist doesn't have any documentation on its commands. Is their a command to close the terrorist base? There's a command to open and close the jail, but it's not documented in F9. Only command is open/close jail. added command to f9
-Two milk items spawns in once the first hero is chosen. It doesn't matter what hero and the milk only spawns once. what? oh, fixed (i.e., removed them)

E 1/6/2022:
-Grammar error when picking a character. "Your a black man" vs the correct grammar "You're a black man." Fixed
-Sprint is tool top missing Fixed as well as some spells from black and white man. Probably all heroes have tool top missing spells. This will take some time to fix, but will address.
-AK47 is really really bad. What was a really fun way to start the game, running and gunning, has now become impossible because AK47 doesn't hit and the -pistols don't stack up in ammo, damage, and range.This will take some time to fix, but will address.
-Ak47 has the rifle description Fixed

E2:

Casino is way screwed up. Very bad.
This (and below) will take some time to fix, but will address.
-All hotkeys for coins are G, so you can't use hotkeys for purchasing or selling coins
-Selling Coin values are wrong. I think selling coins is meant to but 5, 25, 125, and 250, but it's you're actually selling 50, 250, 1250, and 2500.
-Buying coin values are wrong. It's a 10x multiplier so you mean to buy 5 coins for 20 gold but you're actually buying 50 coins for 20 gold.
-With all this in mind, you can buy coins and then immediately sell them for a profit.
-I can't even put all the stuff wrong with this into words. Even the messages on the screen after selling the max amount of coins is wrong. It says sold 250 coins for 10,000 gold. All the values and messages need to be changed.
-Disgruntled worker is spelled "Disgruntalled worker" Fixed

-You CAN spawn kill the scorpion with rocket towers (or probably any other tower) and mortars. Hopefully fixed. Prevented towers from being built near bettering area and mortars from entering that area.
 
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-Mafia and druggy will randomly unally you if you have enough CR. My CR was 7 and gang, mafia, and druggy unallied me. I think that was coincidence. They will unally you if a player-hero who is a member of that faction is unallied to you.
I've been playing single player, so it's not related to other players.
 
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-A player was losing money on the waste plant operator job. Apparently 200 gold/10s. Also I think it needs more explanation. Also, sting rays attack the players doing these jobs. It's probably intended for the fishing job but ends up killing noobs. Also apparently sting rays insta-respawn or something.
-People also keep going into the military base and get high CRs.
-Mayor somehow gets doctor job without going on the circle. Edit: Apparently it's because the mayor dies and it takes their job and gives them Dr. job.
-Does terrorist give CR? I had someone try to arrest a terrorist after they just became one and it didn't work. I assume either the CR was too low and it went back to 0 or being a terrorist gives no CR in the first place.
-Weed still doesn't stack
-The side job of a lumberjack isn't really worth it because it's easier to get money by stealing or doing other things. It's also a better use of time to do other things like get exp.
-No one knows of/uses roles. They should be introduced or hand fed to players so they use them or players should want to find it/explore the map to find it.

Edit: I just remembered that someone else had all factions unally them while they had high CR. It's not just me. Also, remember to fix the glitch where the police destroy your hero and you can't repick. It's in the version where you added the auto repair shop.

Also just had someone get 10k in one minute at the doctor job. Level 9 old man. Shockwave can kill the germs really easily and they give a lot of money. Also even without shockwave, they could kill the germs without getting hit due to having 600 range. Germs also teleport outside of the killing area if they try to follow a player to the middle of the building. Also in the time I made this post, he went from level 9 to 15 in a few minutes.

reminders and more suggestions:

-Make it so police can get into the bigger bank vault to arrest players immediately
-Prevent players from using units to open the bank door
-Have a daily training limit on gym like parvenu
-Maybe have a health bar or something for the doors so noobs don't give up trying to break doors down? Especially the bank doors
-Doctor can hire the bioswat but doctor gives no food apparently.
-Bioswat trains CRAZY fast and upgrades with police. If you go police, upgrade units, and then go doctor, you have a doctor's salary + tons of swat units. (E: This is not a suggestion, just something I noticed)
-Blocking a street causes massive amounts of cars to pile up near the units.
Edit: Example: A player blocked the street to the hospital with bioswat and cars piled on the fence nearby.

E: I had a realization. During my last playthrough of this game, a player got unallied to all factions from high CR like I did, but had no faction relations himself.
 
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-Swat kill squads can kill you while in courthouse to see whether you're guilty or not
-Kill squads will kill you AFTER getting out of the court. I think once they're summoned they'll try to kill you until you get in a vehicle. This also means regular police will kill your control points, forcing you to get them again.
-Mcstankey's anti air is VERY bad. If you get your helicopter trapped in there, you'll have to move your helicopter to the stairs first before trying to get out. Otherwise, your helicopter will try to get out and get teleported back in the builder.




Mafia fire sound is the fire spell that the basic units have. It's the same spell you get for equipping an AK47

-You can accidentally shoot an NPC car and get unallied to the police. You cannot do this with other units, factions, etc. i dont really see why shooting a NPC car shouldn't make police unallied to you. Your take?
-You can actually kill light blue's units with a regular pistol. I never realized it until now. Can they? I am not finding that this is the case.
-You can randomly become the enemy of the cartel, mafia, and gang for some reason. I was gang and became the enemy to the cartel and mafia even though I never messed with them. There's no reason to become their enemies either. Maybe because of carjacking? I think its b/c you are enemies of someone who is apart of those factions
-Gang barracks has druggy's upgrade for body armor, not gangs. Might be because I had 2/3 upgrades for defense should be fixed
-Completion text for gang tower is gang slniger or something like that. It'll say "completed gang sligner" or something. i think i fixed this.
It would be a good idea to add text showing what you get / lose from getting arrested, robbing investments, etc.
-Mafia players can force red (AI mafia) to make builders to make more barracks to make more units but gang cannot. Pretty sure gang is the only one that can't do this. It makes the gang way weaker than it needs to be.
-TANKS. They screw my crap up. As gang, they're impossible to counter unless you have a strong hero. Really bad. They're infinite too. It wrecks my army because I rely on numbers. Since their attacks do AOE, my troops can't do anything. It would be solved if they were limited. I think like, 5+ spawn in the base and eventually destroy my mini bases. maybe I need to add a RPG item or something to counter tanks...
-My hero is the black male, level 17. Only 9 int. I literally can't get enough int by leveling to get doctor. I expect otherwise honestly. i don't view this as a problem. all the heros have strengths / weaknesses in terms of stats.
-Druggy AI units stopped spawning for some reason. I like it though since it means I can FINALLY take over a faction. they can stop spawning in certain situations
-Town can somehow get prosecuted over and over again
-Doing -name will not put a space between your number and name. Doing -name Player and being player 3 would read as 3)Player instead of 3) Player fixed
-You can allow ground units to go into the military base with no consequence i think fixed
-You can rob town heroes for MASSIVE cash. I love it personally but understand if it's gonna be patched. fixed

-A drug lord upgrade requires pot barn but you can't make pot barns. Might be for druggy, but it doesn't work for the 50k house.
-Drug stacking still doesn't work. Click stacked drugs and it'll use all of them for the effect of one i think it works for some. im using the native stacking system so not sure much can be done

-new version swamp turtles still don't have textures fixed
-Wastewater sewer plant job's circle doesn't have mana or the spell itself should not cost mana since I guess other circle spells don't require mana removed spell
-Sewer job says you have to wait TEN minutes to quit it. It says on the text when trying to quit. Why. That's like, an entire game of loap before everyone quits. People will literally quit by then lol fixed
-Sewer wanderer still has possession spell. It's basically a banshee with a different name and unit photo lol fixed

-battle arena is just unused space
-You can't get a library card from the library
-mechanic near druggy base (where you buy base game gang units) requires lumber to repair. It would be a lot better if anyone could use mechanic to repair their vehicles and bases. Or just straight up use any unit I guess. Still, it's from base WC3 and we can't get lumber.

Suggestions:

Honestly I just say finally make it so you can fully beat police or mafia or druggy. The last player in our game agreed at least. Also make it so you can fly over the oceans. It would be nice to beat the police as mafia or something in the hour of gameplay then leave than just trying your best to beat them. The infinite spawn can be made into a police budget that can run out and collected through taxes or something. You can even make the police even more ruthless to compensate. They're a bit easy right now until the tanks start to ruin everything.

Also, check of loap parvenu if you haven't. That loap has a few ideas you've expanded on, but also ideas that you can implement and expand on yourself.
 
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-Old man cannot use AK47 for some reason. Probably too many spells.
-You can use guns in the hospital when farming germs, but it doesn't really add much income imo. Still, I don't think it was in your vision and I wanted to make you know of it.
-Gym is severely overpowered. This is a reminder that people can hog the gym and certain characters like the black and white man can dominate with their spells. Black man has a really good bash that's great for really high agility, almost permastunning other players. White man's crit can penetrate armor, and with enough str, you'll have a player with 10k hp and 1k damage, making a 4k crit on anyone else. Also, reincarnation makes it so you have to fight him twice. This makes the white man the most powerful for PVP for now. Nerfing the gym should stop this though. Still, these two characters are by far the best other than the old man with his int going up with level.
-To keep it in writing, not as a proposed fix, the revolver costs no mana, allowing you to farm cartel.

No real suggestions or bug fixes other than the old man not using the AK, but I know that's on the out now. I figured I might as well write this just in case you're still interested. Otherwise, the game should just be made much more noob friendly and fun for noobs.
 

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-Old man cannot use AK47 for some reason. Probably too many spells. yeah not intended, but honestly idc. he gets a extra spell. not sure a old man could hold an ak anywaysxD
-You can use guns in the hospital when farming germs, but it doesn't really add much income imo. Still, I don't think it was in your vision and I wanted to make you know of it. Same as above. I am going to nerf how much XP doc gives as its way too much currently
-Gym is severely overpowered. This is a reminder that people can hog the gym and certain characters like the black and white man can dominate with their spells. Black man has a really good bash that's great for really high agility, almost permastunning other players. White man's crit can penetrate armor, and with enough str, you'll have a player with 10k hp and 1k damage, making a 4k crit on anyone else. Also, reincarnation makes it so you have to fight him twice. This makes the white man the most powerful for PVP for now. Nerfing the gym should stop this though. Still, these two characters are by far the best other than the old man with his int going up with level. Noted and agreed. Gym needs nerfing. Going to make it give diminishing returns. ALso adding extra tickets.
-To keep it in writing, not as a proposed fix, the revolver costs no mana, allowing you to farm cartel. need to add stronger cartel units that eventually disrupt this

No real suggestions or bug fixes other than the old man not using the AK, but I know that's on the out now. I figured I might as well write this just in case you're still interested. Otherwise, the game should just be made much more noob friendly and fun for noobs.
 
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