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Legendary B-Tanks 8.82

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By Bob666 and RikonVan
Update 8.82:
-Added "-bank" system
-Overworked the combine system
-Overworked all scripts, removed all known bugs
-Added new weapons
-KI changes, improvement
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The whole changelog will be published.
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FEATURES:
-Attackers
-Item combine system
-Bank system
-Tower system
-Item upgrade system
-Item change system
-12 shops
-16 new weapons, gadgets(!) and a nes trader
-New models and effects
-and so on... :)

Keywords:
legendary, battle tanks, b-tanks, btanks, legendary btanks, battle
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Legendary B-Tanks 8.82 (Map)

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11:59, 19th Jun 2008 Gilles: I always liked battle tanks. Good looking mp, fun gameplay, and AI!

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11:59, 19th Jun 2008
Gilles: I always liked battle tanks. Good looking mp, fun gameplay, and AI!
 
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hi RikonVan, I was the one who asked some things in your other maps. First: I am a fan of Dota and your map is now the "alternative" to Dota(combine&attack). Thank you very much! And like in the other map: Integrate a few more combine items please and update the map to actual, this isn't the nevest version nor? ->I rated 10(Outstanding)-I love your map...
 
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Hi again. I saw you added a combination animation. I tried to include a system like yours in my map(hero arena) so can you tell me how to add it? and how you did it that the last weapon is staying for a short time fter upgrading and before combinating? plz...:)
 
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is it just me or does this map leak buckets? I usually find myself vm(virtual memory) usage over 1.1gb when i play this map for over half an hour. It also takes like 5 seconds to close down and boy does my computer feel free when i close wc3 down after playing this map. Regardless i love this map and thats why i tolerate the leakage.
 
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Hi vuevuevue2002, I had to write incividual upgrade, change and combine scripts for EACH item but at last I combined over 50 scripts into one new script so the version you played is the one with the improved scripts :) I hope I can fix the leak but like you said it's really worth playing with it :) And: Try the blasting splash cannon in the new shop please and tell me if you like it! =)
 
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i think one of the things that could be improved is the ai. Towards end game the ai ALWAYS gets infernal tank and 6 lasers. Also they tend to follow a human player mindlessly when solo'ing in enemy territory. Basically i can lure all the computer players into a corner of a map (with a flying tank of course) while everyone else pounds their base, kinda funny actually.
 
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Infernal-Robot Skills needs to be checked, the Chaos rain and Chaos Wave doesn't work.
The Light Force Computer splits money to leavers.
The Light of Heaven Upgraded Info is wrong, it will still say 300 damage.
Cyber ProtoType spells are too strong and Keep On Fighting skill doesn't work.
I've been getting alot of comments that this map doesn't live up to the original, but it's still fun and plays fine in my opinion.
 
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Oo you fixed all bugs xeno told, haven't you? Oh my god......---you are a really good mapper RikonVan...^^I dream about :D
 
how is this a Aeon of Strife / AoS, Altered Melee, Arena, Campaign, Capture the Flag / CTF, Cinematic, Defense / Survival, Escape / Maze, Hero Arena, Life of a Peasant / LOAP, Mini-Game, Miscellaneous / Other, Offense, Role Playing Game / RPG, Shooting / FPS, Strategy / Risk, Template / Terrain, Tower (Defense / TD / Maul / Wars) type of map. there is no maze,no rpg,no cinematic,no ctf, nocampaign, so how is this all kinds of maps:eekani:?:eekani:?:eekani:?:eekani:?:eekani:?
 

TKF

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Hmm... I see you have not abaondoned this yet. Well I'm not sure if I'm going to update my own version yet... It's long time ago since I've updated it.

Only thing I've done to my mod is making it even more insane...


btw what is KI changes?
 

sentrywiz

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sentrywiz

I have to neg-rep this map. Let me explain:

I've downloaded it and played it for over 5 hours. Oh yea, its fun, addictive and overall superb when it comes to solo player like myself. The AI is wow, really. It shows lot of effort was put into it.

There are tons of weapons, even more than I can buy (and bots buy stuff I can't find in shops too) so lot of choice there.

There is also a good amount of games I can find on game ranger for the map being hosted. Popularity shows lot.


But this is as far as I can go with positive comments. Everything else in the map is flawed, unbalanced and not planned out. Here is a list of things I absolutely cannot stand, but have been trying to since the last 5 hours of gameplay:



  • [*] The game gets harder the more you push into their base - This I cannot understand. I've been trying to push with the AI versus a full AI team for 2 hours. I cannot even knock one of the big towers down. This points to a serious flaw - respawn time, gold earned and farming.


    [*] You capture all the control points. Enemy has nowhere to go. And what happens? You flee for your life, because they respawn every 3 seconds, distance from one lane to another is short as a blink and you cannot push. They kill you. You lose around 250 gold and 75 for transport. This happens about 3 more times and then you have to fly/walk the way over there. Not having a way to get half-way across a big map means a bad map.


    [*] The bots must be earning extra gold. They have serious shit in their inventory I don't even know how to make, can't even dream about farming the cash and cannot tank them (even with a 5000 health tank versus a 2000 one). And since you have no neutral monsters to farm gold on, you are stuck trying to kill something while dying over and over. You basically lose 2x of the gold you make.


    [*] Gold loss is one of the things any moba based game ditches out. Its enough when you die you lose farming time, experience and the distance you have to cross.


    [*] There are atleast two items that said combine and when I bought both two, they didn't and I spent all the gold and was stuck with pellet guns versus the big tanks. Not fun. Fix your bugs and descriptions. Its not fun to lose when you don't know anything.


    [*] The shops are all over the place. There are structures that don't do anything, cannot be captured and only are there for players like me to say "dafuq are these for"... the shops are everywhere, you don't know where to buy. The point - too much choice = paralysis. If you are gonna make shops everywhere, make them in multiple positions. I died 5 times while trying to buy something from the middle shop. I just couldn't beat the bots there and eventually lost the gold I was saving for the item.


    [*] Adding a description for the possible recipes somewhere is mandatory. Dafuq I know from playing the map once that I can combine this item with that item and get that item. I wanted to buy the God's Hammer, but I couldn't figure it out - which item to combine with which. It took me lot of time and nerves to buy as little as 10 items, two of which said combine and they didn't combine.




Summary
I like this map, I really do. But I will never waste time on it again. Whoever made this map made the scripts, the triggers and the functionality in it to a level superb. It even beats dota's bots and scripts. But its not balanced, its flawed and makes me as a new player to it want to give up because its literally a waste of time and nerves in which I will never win. Overall grade 1/5
 
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Im sorry

Hey there sentrywiz. I abandoned this map since like 3 years so I read your message right now.
1. This map was concipated for those who want to go beyond the usual btanks. Yes, there is a usual btanks out there with no combine items and many other stuff missing(its still updated till today, so nowadays the original btanks is superb to this version(www.btanks.net)).

2. The BUGS: I didnt fix them cause you need someone to report the bugs so that you can fix them and since you played this map long time after I already abandoned this, I didnt fix the bugs completely.

3. The neutral buildings: Causual btanks players would have known that they are for trading. So only usable, if you buy the trader tank in the beginning.

4. The Gold loss and time: You have many options to not be out of game that long if you die. one option: Buy the speedpack. You are up to 100% faster and you can teleport about half the map. Then you can get to the middle shop easily without dying.
One option: Build a factory in front of the opponents base and heavy towers. A factory almost alwas ends the game, since it repairs your tanks right in front of the opponents base and it allows you to teleport there for 75Gold. So no more time travelling if you die.

5. The CP's generate income. So if you control all and you are not strong enough to push their base, just wait every 5 minutes you will get a lot of money.

6. Buy titan or infernal to end the game, they destroy towers in no time, especially infernal with teleport and ulti. Also buy a bomb. It deals 25000 damage AOE so perfectly to siege base.

7. Buy troop command. You get artillery with that(range1300) outrange all the towers!! Also heavy tank can do that.

Best regards
 
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