Lands of America 1.38 - Middle

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DarkIron Dwarf · Aug 12, 2009

Seems like a pretty fun game to me though it is a bit annoying how tornados and such will keep showing up when your trying to build something even if its a tent. This might be a bug I am not sure but still pretty fun.

erdniz · Aug 12, 2009

it was kinda funny in the start but as a long term game it was kinda boring anyway 3/5

sindreo · Aug 12, 2009

Very good map, it was funny but it became boring after some time but I'll give u 4/5

I didn't have any problems with the tornados ;P
and it's really fun to play with other players C:

Rispetto · Aug 12, 2009

2.5/5

Edit: Sheet. You can't do 2.5. Oh well. 3/5 >.>

Lightskin · Aug 12, 2009

DarkIron Dwarf said:
Seems like a pretty fun game to me though it is a bit annoying how tornados and such will keep showing up when your trying to build something even if its a tent. This might be a bug I am not sure but still pretty fun.

Rofl, haha xD

well, actually it IS a bug, which i have found what the hell produces it.
Many thanks for telling me this!
-Edit-
Well, it should be fixed now, Uploaded.

erdniz said:
it was kinda funny in the start but as a long term game it was kinda boring anyway 3/5

Yeah, you are right, i think i will have to solve that by making more buildings, more units, more tecnology and upgrades. So it won't really end and you just create units and mounted archers or dragoons.

DarkIron Dwarf · Aug 12, 2009

Okay good cause it was beginning to annoy me when a tornado would start up when I build a tent. But fixed now and ya I would recomand something like AI for a single player thing to it would be amusing.

Lightskin · Aug 12, 2009

DarkIron Dwarf said:
Okay good cause it was beginning to annoy me when a tornado would start up when I build a tent. But fixed now and ya I would recomand something like AI for a single player thing to it would be amusing.

AI, mm seems a nice idea, i will try making a nice AI

Dezedor · Aug 13, 2009

Quite good.

Tha Flamestorm · Aug 17, 2009

yay, one of my most favorite periods of time, but with the worst after effect!lol

AIagremm · Aug 29, 2009

Wow, this is good. Nice job!

gangu · Oct 16, 2009

Men, the income for the Indians are really low, might wanna make it higher?

Good job with the game ! 5/5

Lightskin · Oct 21, 2009

gangu said:
Men, the income for the Indians are really low, might wanna make it higher?

The problem is that with the giant beasts they would be unstoppable :S
the conquest in this game is to expand.

irock9645696 · Dec 29, 2009

People might think its The New World by Kitabatake.

Cweener · Aug 1, 2010

Mass Purging Template Version 3.0
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Any Personal Comments?
Fine.

Lightskin · Aug 2, 2010

Uh.. oh, what do you mean Cweener? :S

Project Tri · Aug 3, 2010

LoL i Get Mixed Up Is This Country - Brazil, Africa, Or America?

gangu · Aug 28, 2010

It's america.

Lightskin · Aug 28, 2010

Yeah, South-America. (Brazil is okay, but it's not only Brazil)

It starts at Mexico and ends in Argentina/Chile.

Check a Global map and you'll understand.

Dromlexer · Aug 28, 2010

Lightskin said:
It starts at Mexico and ends in Argentina/Chile.

Sounds History-related game. lol
As Colombia the Explorer. (dude he travelled from Spain or Portugal to South America)

Lightskin · Aug 28, 2010

Dragoinc said:
Sounds History-related game. lol
As Colombia the Explorer. (dude he travelled from Spain or Portugal to South America)

haha, well, actually the map is the one that starts on mexico and ends on argentina/chile xD

I mean, you are free to go anywhere at any time in the game time.

Might "colombia" be columbus? In Argentinian history he is the one who found our natal aboriginals and killed em all and slaved and stole em and then founded colonies etc. He was spanish (from there we speak spanish).

Dromlexer · Aug 29, 2010

Lightskin said:
haha, well, actually the map is the one that starts on mexico and ends on argentina/chile xD

I mean, you are free to go anywhere at any time in the game time.

Might "colombia" be columbus? In Argentinian history he is the one who found our natal aboriginals and killed em all and slaved and stole em and then founded colonies etc. He was spanish (from there we speak spanish).

I thank you for spelling the explorers name right, I forgot the history xD but I know what he did.

Yes, these who comes from Spain speak spanish.

Chaos lord · Aug 30, 2010

Really nice map. I like it! But what are victory conditions? I destroyed every unit that was not mine and still I didn't win. Still, a very good idea! 4/5

Lightskin · Aug 31, 2010

Chaos lord said:
Really nice map. I like it! But what are victory conditions? I destroyed every unit that was not mine and still I didn't win. Still, a very good idea! 4/5

I need ideas for the victory condition, if you have one, or a few, let me know them so I make them real!

EDIT: Well I've done with the help of InfinateAnswers a Total domination with or without allies victory condition already, I'll upload the new version about tomorrow.

gangu · Aug 31, 2010

umm,can you add atleast 2 / 3 goldmines maximum(for both settlers and tribes)? It won't be fun if you don't have gold to train ur units :/

Comrade.Rat · Aug 31, 2010

Can I give you some ideas, please? I think with them the game will be more interesting. Here they are:

-Make some rivers on the continent; It will increase the tribe's boat usage and will act as border to be protected.
-Add at least 1 more type of unit for Tribes and Settlers. For example:
Some serbacane (weapon used by aborigens to shoot small darts with poison) user unit for Tribes, that deals little damage, but poisons the enemy and can stealth while standing still.
One more religious unit for the Settlers, maybe Inquisitor or Missioneror some sort of religious knight (Crusader) that have both religious abilities and good fighting skills.
OR
Another type of gunpowder using unit.
-Add more diplomatic options like:
Trade Agreement (your income and the income of the player you made agreement with to be shared and split 50/50 to each player)
Religious Agreement (you will become neutral if you were enemy with the player you choose and a religious building to be spawned near the Player's castle or temple - Church or Totem, and some Monks and Shamans (depending on the type of spawned building), owned by the other player. For example, I make religious agreement with Guy1. He accept my agreement. Me, as Settler, get a Totem in my base with few shamans around it. He, as Aborigen, get a Church in his base with few monks around it. When I was playing it, i agreed (as settler) to ally one tribe ONLY if the Tribe agree a church to be build in their base. Yes, I know this means nothing, but it was kinda roleplaying and cool )

Anyway, the game is great, I give 4/5.

Lightskin · Aug 31, 2010

gangu said:
umm,can you add atleast 2 / 3 goldmines maximum(for both settlers and tribes)? It won't be fun if you don't have gold to train ur units :/

There is no maximum goldmines, actually there is only a minimum range required. The range is 1024. You can't build one goldmine too close to another one (It is meant to push you to expand your empire).
BTW thanks for telling me this, I'll add it to the description of the goldmines.

Comrade.Rat said:
Can I give you some ideas, please? I think with them the game will be more interesting. Here they are:

-Make some rivers on the continent; It will increase the tribe's boat usage and will act as border to be protected.
-Add at least 1 more type of unit for Tribes and Settlers. For example:
Some serbacane (weapon used by aborigens to shoot small darts with poison) user unit for Tribes, that deals little damage, but poisons the enemy and can stealth while standing still.
One more religious unit for the Settlers, maybe Inquisitor or Missioneror some sort of religious knight (Crusader) that have both religious abilities and good fighting skills.
OR
Another type of gunpowder using unit.
-Add more diplomatic options like:
Trade Agreement (your income and the income of the player you made agreement with to be shared and split 50/50 to each player)
Religious Agreement (you will become neutral if you were enemy with the player you choose and a religious building to be spawned near the Player's castle or temple - Church or Totem, and some Monks and Shamans (depending on the type of spawned building), owned by the other player. For example, I make religious agreement with Guy1. He accept my agreement. Me, as Settler, get a Totem in my base with few shamans around it. He, as Aborigen, get a Church in his base with few monks around it. When I was playing it, i agreed (as settler) to ally one tribe ONLY if the Tribe agree a church to be build in their base. Yes, I know this means nothing, but it was kinda roleplaying and cool )

Anyway, the game is great, I give 4/5.

I like all of your ideas, I'll use them in V1.37 and of course, credits for ideas!
I mostly like the rivers idea.

Comrade.Rat · Sep 1, 2010

Three more things:

1. Add an option to exchange lumber to gold and gold to lumber in the building that makes upgrades (was some sort of market for Settlers).

2. When playing once, a player used all his starting wood BEFORE building a Storage, so remove the lumber requirement of Storage or make small lumber income.

3. Make the terrain on the starting locations of Settlers unbuildable (some rocks, vines or such), because people can easily build 10 houses there and upgrade them, which is kinda cheat, because houses are supposed to be build on the continent, not in the sea, right?

Lightskin · Sep 3, 2010

Okay, I've done everything but a few things, I'll have to think about it, or some other I will do them in a later version.

v1.38
Trade Agreement

To think
storage problem (because that's a logical sense deficit problem, it's their fault)
terrain on settlers spawn (because it would't be so cheaty, because tribes can)

The non mentioned points have been already done.
Many thanks for your feedback Comrade.Rat.

Titania · Sep 3, 2010

I simply love this game :> +rep

Lightskin · Sep 3, 2010

Titania said:
I simply love this game :> +rep

Many thanks! Remember any changes you might want to see in future versions will be listened!

Dromlexer · Sep 3, 2010

A new theme has born again =>

Comrade.Rat · Sep 4, 2010

Just...great map!
By the way,i though it was supposed to be 3 versions of your map - For South America, Middle and North? Personally I liked more South America, more space and such... Example for what I mean:
The New World - South America 1.37 (reached stable version, you leave it and go making another one)
The New World - Middle America 1.00
The New World - North America 1.00
and so on....
EDIT: Tested it, and:
1. The Loading screen is from the older version (South America)
2. For a unit that is supposed to be used at night, Night Hunters should have better sight range.
3. The Inquisitor unit that you made is more like a Paladin from World of Warcraft...
By Inquisitor i meant some nasty, cruel guy, 'The dark side of Christ religion'. Because they're badass.
4. The animation of the tribe houses...there is a crane....which is kinda disturbing...
5. Why Tribe's houses are build slower than the settler's houses?

supertoinkz · Sep 4, 2010

Any AI?

Lightskin · Sep 4, 2010

Comrade.Rat said:
Just...great map!
By the way,i though it was supposed to be 3 versions of your map - For South America, Middle and North? Personally I liked more South America, more space and such... Example for what I mean:
The New World - South America 1.37 (reached stable version, you leave it and go making another one)
The New World - Middle America 1.00
The New World - North America 1.00
and so on....
EDIT: Tested it, and:
1. The Loading screen is from the older version (South America)
2. For a unit that is supposed to be used at night, Night Hunters should have better sight range.
3. The Inquisitor unit that you made is more like a Paladin from World of Warcraft...
By Inquisitor i meant some nasty, cruel guy, 'The dark side of Christ religion'. Because they're badass.
4. The animation of the tribe houses...there is a crane....which is kinda disturbing...
5. Why Tribe's houses are build slower than the settler's houses?

For the Maps, when I reach the stable version, I'll make the 3 maps and upload them all. But for now, I also like opinions for the maps, maybe in another version I'll add North America, but not because it will remain like that, instead because I'm still making the 3 America maps. Thanks for the suggestion!

1 Thanks for telling me this, haven't noted it xD
2 Nice idea, I'll do it
3 Actually I tryied to make it like a cruel guy, that's the reason of the model, check it here [model]
4 I know that, I unlike it too, but I can't model, and the animation comes together with the model
5 That's because you only need 3 upgrades to get to 16 food, instead settlers require of 7 upgrades to get 16 food.

supertoinkz said:
Any AI?

I tried to make one, but I failed, I might implement one if someone would like to make one or either I figure out how to make them sometime.

Rispetto · Sep 4, 2010

Rispetto has granted you the glory of a review:

Terrain: 3/5
Units: 4/5
Triggers: 0/5
Icons: 5/5
Music: 4/5
Rating: 4/5
Comment: I absolutely love the models and skins you chose for the units, they fit in nicely. The icons are nice, they are unique and none that I can see have a green screen (meaning proper use of DSBTNs). Not too many triggers used as far as I could tell, and the heroes didn't have any abilities, but none the less a good map. Love the morrowind music, though you kinda stole the idea from LoaC. Never got a chance to properly test it out online, but it looks like a great success!

I can't change the actual rating I've given for the map, seeing as how I tested an earlier version, but I stick with my new 4/5!

Comrade.Rat · Sep 4, 2010

Lightskin said:
3 Actually I tryied to make it like a cruel guy, that's the reason of the model, check it here [model]

Problem is, Inquisitors really DON'T look like that. Inquisitors wear dark robes with a hood, they chase enemies of the Church, burn witches, torment prisoners...that stuff.The dirty job. Something like this:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/monk-157280/?prev=search%3DMonk%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20 (but darker) or normal undead worker.

Lightskin · Sep 6, 2010

Rispetto said:
Rispetto has granted you the glory of a review:

Terrain: 3/5
Units: 4/5
Triggers: 0/5
Icons: 5/5
Music: 4/5
Rating: 4/5
Comment: I absolutely love the models and skins you chose for the units, they fit in nicely. The icons are nice, they are unique and none that I can see have a green screen (meaning proper use of DSBTNs). Not too many triggers used as far as I could tell, and the heroes didn't have any abilities, but none the less a good map. Love the morrowind music, though you kinda stole the idea from LoaC. Never got a chance to properly test it out online, but it looks like a great success!

I can't change the actual rating I've given for the map, seeing as how I tested an earlier version, but I stick with my new 4/5!

Thanks for your review! It's really appreciated. (BTW, I never heard of LoaC, but I'll check that game, seems pretty nice)
I mostly focussed on the graphics and beuty of the game

Comrade.Rat said:
Problem is, Inquisitors really DON'T look like that. Inquisitors wear dark robes with a hood, they chase enemies of the Church, burn witches, torment prisoners...that stuff.The dirty job. Something like this:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/monk-157280/?prev=search%3DMonk%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20 (but darker) or normal undead worker.

I see, I just thought Inquisitors in WoW were paladin-like units, but whatever, you are right. Then I'll just change the name to Crusader.
Thanks once again for your highly useful and appreciated feedback, Comrade.Rat!

Titania · Sep 6, 2010

Lightskin said:
Thanks for your review! It's really appreciated. (BTW, I never heard of LoaC, but I'll check that game, seems pretty nice)
I mostly focussed on the graphics and beuty of the game

I see, I just thought Inquisitors in WoW were paladin-like units, but whatever, you are right. Then I'll just change the name to Crusader.
Thanks once again for your highly useful and appreciated feedback, Comrade.Rat!

Well you could find a triggerer or a jasser to help you,triggers and systems don't take much space

Lightskin · Sep 6, 2010

Titania said:
Well you could find a triggerer or a jasser to help you,triggers and systems don't take much space

It's not really the problem, it's just I don't know what to add with triggers, I added a few things, such as victory condition, random panthers spawns at land, the incomes, the natural disasters, and some more things. But the real problem is that I can't find what else to add, I mean I don't want something unreal, it must be something that follows the reality.

Also, I've fixed and changed all already said. If anyone have any other idea before I upload 1.38 speak now!

Thanks for the support guys.

Comrade.Rat · Sep 6, 2010

Lightskin said:
It's not really the problem, it's just I don't know what to add with triggers, I added a few things, such as victory condition, random panthers spawns at land, the incomes, the natural disasters, and some more things. But the real problem is that I can't find what else to add, I mean I don't want something unreal, it must be something that follows the reality.

Also, I've fixed and changed all already said. If anyone have any other idea before I upload 1.38 speak now!

Thanks for the support guys.

Maybe some....influence system? If your colony or tribe can't sustain control over his servants and citizens, then they should rise against the chieftain/settler leader.
Second, I LOVE STATISTICS! If you could add them, that would be great! Like... Largest Army, Largest Population, Economy, Largest Fleet, Religion Spread and a message when somebody builds Castle/Temple!

Lightskin · Sep 6, 2010

Comrade.Rat said:
Maybe some....influence system? If your colony or tribe can't sustain control over his servants and citizens, then they should rise against the chieftain/settler leader.
Second, I LOVE STATISTICS! If you could add them, that would be great! Like... Largest Army, Largest Population, Economy, Largest Fleet, Religion Spread and a message when somebody builds Castle/Temple!

You mean at the end of the game? Something that shows up those stadistics?

Titania · Sep 7, 2010

Lightskin said:
You mean at the end of the game? Something that shows up those stadistics?

He meant in game,so those player will try to overtake each other,thus will be more fast paced

gangu · Sep 10, 2010

I think you should change the swordsman to something else , such as a spearman or a halberdier , they were commonly used during the age of gunpowder...

Lightskin · Sep 14, 2010

gangu said:
I think you should change the swordsman to something else , such as a spearman or a halberdier , they were commonly used during the age of gunpowder...

I might not change or remove the swordsman, but still, I might use your data, to make a new unit (Pikeman). Thanks for the info.

gangu · Sep 14, 2010

Once again i'd like to bring up the topics about gold mines and incomes , i really think the gold interval and the amount of money i get is too low..and i think many people would get bored of this because they have no more money , esp. when i play this with the public..

Lightskin · Sep 15, 2010

The objective of the game is to expand and conquer, you have to set them strategically, and expand your empire. Always I play I end up with unlimited money, since I can't spend as much as I win, and, just with about... 6 or 8 gold mines/excavations.

shentong1932 · Nov 21, 2010

I would like to be your map tester.Can I?>.<

Lightskin · Dec 15, 2010

shentong1932 said:
I would like to be your map tester.Can I?>.<

Of course you can, just download it and feel free to tell me about any bug/idea you want to implement or fix!

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