Goblin Slammer

Moderator · Sep 16, 2009

22:53, 17th Sep 2009
Rizz_Boomer:
NO WAY I APPROVE THIS!
remake the cockpit, add a helmet to the goblin, or add just the rest of the head.

7th Oct 2009
Pyritie: The goblin's head is a total mess. Fix it.
- You're missing a poly on its helmet (front left)
- You have depth fighting on the back (with those two things that look sorta like pistons)
- You have texture stretching during the attack anims
- You're missing some polies around the treads
- You should make the material of the base two-sided
- An extra goblin inside the base that should be removed
- Some weird particles going on in the death anim... you should make it so it "fits" more with wc3 deaths
- Use a better death event object sound
- Make the chain materials two-sided
- Too many particles in the spell anim. What's it supposed to be anyway? You should make them more firey and smoky, because I'm assuming that's where rockets come out of.
- Spell throw just has some random gun that comes out of nowhere. Either remove it or stick it somewhere more appropriate.
- Stand Defend: Set the alpha of segments 1 and 3 to 0, bump up the emission rate to 10, and set the lifespan to 1.
- Lower the particle count on the walk to like 30.
- Why does fire come out of the back during the attack anims? Doesn't make much sense.

16th Oct 2009
Pyritie: Much better! You still have to fix these though:
- Lower the particle count on the walk to like 30.
- Lower the duration of the spell and spell throw anims

18th October 2009
I will approve this one, but do improve the animations and the mesh, please.

takakenji · Sep 17, 2009

looks interesting

Ghost765 · Sep 17, 2009

the cockpit looks like a block of ice.

anarchianbedlam · Sep 17, 2009

There is no proper walk animation, and the death animation seems incomplete. Like ghost said, the cockpit looks like a big blue icegem thing... and the ggoblin inside it has no top to his skull

Trilogy · Sep 17, 2009

Looks like a goblin... pylon

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Hayato_Azra · Sep 17, 2009

This, and add a proper walk animation. Other details are un noticeable ingame anyways, but you should re-locate the cristal, a little to the rigth it seems out of place

I like the idea, but it doesn´t seem like a hero, still, its a very good model, and i like its death anim and concept overall.

Ghost765 · Sep 18, 2009

the crystal doesnt fit at all.

Pyramidhe@d · Sep 18, 2009

i agree. i think he was meaning to represent glass but did not work. get rid of the crystal
i seen no problem with the walk anim. sure its not a proper one but it could still be used

Misha · Sep 18, 2009

...geomerge much?

dragor89 · Sep 18, 2009

try to fix the cristal because it just like like a big shapeless pice of ice

PsychoNerdial · Sep 18, 2009

Cockpit needs changing.

jk2pach · Sep 18, 2009

Done. I hope this time you will like it

PsychoNerdial · Sep 18, 2009

well, looks better

RiotZ · Sep 18, 2009

looks kinda weird i dont know about this one 3.5\5

Hayato_Azra · Sep 18, 2009

The helmet is... rather weird for a goblin... anyways, i think it can be aproved now.

7.3/10

anarchianbedlam · Sep 19, 2009

Improvement, but it still does not have a proper walk animation

Hayato_Azra · Sep 19, 2009

though i agree with you, actually is not noticeable in game if the wheels move or not.

Still ,it would be a good detail to add something else than the dust particles, but i think it can be aproved as it is for now.

Ghost765 · Sep 19, 2009

looks better thummmbbbs UPP

Deolrin · Sep 19, 2009

Shiver me timbers! Why he be wearin' this ugly, big helmet? Give him a proper goblin hat, yarrr!

jk2pach · Sep 19, 2009

Helmet changed

For the walk animation: the former version was "bugged": I use a simple Dust particle, but because I optimize each model, I did not see that the colums and rows used in W3 Model Editor have been changed from (0,0) to (1,1) in MdlVis. This explain the smoke was closed to be invisible. Now, If I did not make this mistake again, the smoke hiddes the tracks.

In the Hero Tinker Models, tracks have been animated with an animated Texture. Probleme is my knowloedge about animated textures is closed to 0. I only use MdlVis and W3Model Editor to create models, and MdlVis, so powerfull it is, does not deal with textures more than UV Mapping.

Misha · Sep 19, 2009

magos deals with texture anims

jk2pach · Sep 19, 2009

But what I tried to explain with my perfect english

x) is that I do not deal with

Zerox · Sep 20, 2009

I like this model. And I think it was a neat idea. And as far as texture animations go they're quite difficult if you don't know what your doing.

Hayato_Azra · Sep 20, 2009

Improved and nice, one last thing, you should make the "rocket pods-fists " closer to their arms in the spin animation, they look a little off-place as they are rigth now.

Also, suggestions that not neccesary but may improve the model greatly: another spell animation, and maybe other gadgets, such as lights or more rocket pods. Maybe make the goblin eject the cockpit during death.

jk2pach · Sep 20, 2009

Changes made. I did not add more Rocket pods but the Goblin ejects now

Gadget added: lights for 2 animations with the "defend" tag.

Hayato_Azra · Sep 22, 2009

now its a 8.4/10
keep up the good work

Ghost765 · Oct 8, 2009

looks better. a lot better. question, whats defend walk supposed to be?

anarchianbedlam · Oct 8, 2009

its looking better. But walk animation has a ridiculous particle saturation, reduce that. Alsoin the walk defend animation, all the particle emitters are on. so 300 random particles are shooting out everywhere, it looks like it is shaking and exploding and it is extremely annoying. You still do not have a proper walk animation, covering the treads with smoke is a cheap and poorly done trick to try to cover that. Texture animations aren't that hard to add.... I like the light on stand defend... kinda useless but nice. Death looks alright except for the half goblin slowly flying into the air with smoke.... looks like a smoking goblin cut in half being gently lifted into the air. cockpit looks better, chain on the rocket launcher is... odd

Hayato_Azra · Oct 8, 2009

the walk defend animation, dude!

Also, the old goblin ejected rigth, why the new one does not?
High particle count in some anims, and odd particle use in others (the spell one looks like its a flametrower malfunctioning)

the cockpit is a lot better now but... the chains in the rocket pod look a little... weird.
I really liked the new stand defend and the attack slam, but this model had a lot of techical issues i didn´t noticed before(but im not a modeler, so, yeah..), and still has a few more...
Fix: the particles, the odd death, and the friggin bug in the walk defend anim.

My advice:

Keep the machinegun, and the rocket pod, but leave the rocket pod as a rocket pod, dont use it as an arm anymore.

Also, if the machinegun its a problem for this,you could place them in the upper weels part.

You could either give up with the arm thingy, OR add 2 mechanical arms.
How?
- you could make the mechanical arms as one form, and the rocketpod/machinegun as a alternate one
OR
-make the arms, and a alternate stand animatin in wich the arms transform into huge rocket pods (i´d reccomend a tubular type one rather than the square form)

And a last thought:
You make awesome animations, and you work with good concepts, but the execution is usually... not so good. You should try on doing non-mechanical and non-modern units and models(if you need help with concept execution or artistic aspect, i can help you).

X-OMG-X · Oct 8, 2009

Nice idea and okay model. 3/5

Addicted07 · Oct 10, 2009

Nys model! 5/5

Fisher621 · Oct 16, 2009

wow...

D4RK_G4ND4LF · Oct 16, 2009

imho the slam animation is weird
making it to one instead of two hits would improve it a lot
( of cause the animation should look like *BAM* and not like *slap* )
( maybe a smash from above? just a suggestion you surely have better ideas)

the spin animation is bugged
the goblin becomes as thin as paper when he's spinning

an alternate animation tag for machine gun usage would be cool too

the model looks very cool right now but there still is potential for more
have fun becoming an imba model maker :thumbs_up:

The Panda · Oct 16, 2009

This looks Awsome.

firedrake2222 · Oct 18, 2009

Wouldn't want to be infront of that...

It looks very good.

4/5 - As others said, slight room for improvement.

Deadworker · Dec 11, 2011

hey,
i have a question. is it possible to stop the attack animation of this or any unit? i want him as a total range unit with machinegun on right arm and a rocketbox on left side. He shell not beat the rocketbox agains enemys XD.

and if it is posible, can i choose where the bullets and rocket are coming from? so that the machinegun bullets come out of his rightarm weapon and the rockets out of the box on the left side?

and third question. how can i give him 2 different range attacks? so that he shoot with the machinegun all the time and every 15 secs or so he shoot swarm-rockets or such things out of the box?

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