Ganon

Misha · Mar 14, 2017

good animations, but they are a bit on the slow side, and kinda lack the 'swipe' or other quicker parts to them, they just move all evenly and kinda robot-like
edit: you're also missing some movement like twisting of the upper torso while walking

Lord_Marrowgrath · Mar 14, 2017

Animations looks like Godzilla movements

but, I like concept.

DaHomieG · Mar 14, 2017

Why his animation slow motion lol. love the model tho

Kyrbi0 · Mar 15, 2017

This is a pretty interesting interpretation. Love the tusks.

Misha · Mar 15, 2017

blame

DaHomieG said:
Why his animation slow motion lol. love the model tho

the model viewer on hive :b it always slows down the animation. its pretty quick on other viewers or ingame

Mister_Haudrauf · Mar 15, 2017

Misha said:
blame

the model viewer on hive :b it always slows down the animation. its pretty quick on other viewers or ingame

Glad to see that. I had already made it fast even before i uploaded that.

Misha · Mar 15, 2017

Mister_Haudrauf said:
Glad to see that. I had already made it fast even before i uploaded that.

but you still need to learn a bit of timing on your keyframes, like the faster swing is always after the half of the animation, where the arm first goes into the pose for swinging and then pauses for a frame or two. :3 the arm returning into the default pose after the swing makes it look fast

deepstrasz · Mar 19, 2017

His animations are quite slow or is it because of what @Misha wrote?
4/5.
No talk animation?

PROXY · Mar 20, 2017

Why exactly use the collar from my Twilight Enforcer twilight enforcer model? I mean it's not that much of a trouble to create a simple mesh like that.

Mister_Haudrauf · Mar 20, 2017

PROXY said:
Why exactly use the collar from my Twilight Enforcer twilight enforcer model? I mean it's not that much of a trouble to create a simple mesh like that.

I can remove that if you want. It's not like that it has to be there.

PROXY · Mar 20, 2017

Nah keep it ^^ Would have been nice to get a headsup (asking for permission for such a simple mesh would be.. well I don't know) or something like that though.

Mister_Haudrauf · Mar 20, 2017

PROXY said:
Nah keep it ^^ Would have been nice to get a headsup (asking for permission for such a simple mesh would be.. well I don't know) or something like that though.

Well i can atleast credit you now that you mention that collar is yours. (To be honest i had forgotten. again. Don't ask long time ago)

Direfury · Mar 25, 2017

This isn't meant to be demeaning, insulting, or anything of the sort. Simply genuine advice that I hope you take, and remember, for future reference.

The animations are obscenely slow. The attacks have no weight to them. Imagine that creature in the room with you. Ask yourself, "would those attacks hurt?". The walk animation is much too slow, and the hip doesn't move at all. Walk back and forth, at the pace you want your model to go, and note the motion of your hips, and how your legs move and bend with each step. At the very least, the model should bob up and down, side to side, ever so slightly.

For now, this is all the advice you really need. If you need examples, I'd suggest you study the models in this list:
Model Viewer | HIVE
Model Viewer | HIVE
Model Viewer | HIVE
Model Viewer | HIVE
Model Viewer | HIVE
Model Viewer | HIVE
Model Viewer | HIVE

Those are some of my favorites, both for their attacks and walk animations. I'm looking forward to seeing what you learn from these.

Kyrbi0 · Mar 25, 2017

I feel the Walks, but many of your Attack animations, I feel, also lack some weight. Not as badly as this, but... (yeah yeah, I know, insert "well then do it better yourself" here)

Direfury · Mar 25, 2017

Of course. I'm constantly trying to improve. I figured that list of models would be a good step up, to help him improve.

Kyrbi0 · Mar 25, 2017

Humility? Direfury, kick your mom off of your account & get back to posting. ; )

Direfury · Mar 25, 2017

My mother is dead. Thanks.

Stefan.K · Mar 25, 2017

Damn, that was harsh...

Mister_Haudrauf · Mar 25, 2017

Direfury said:
This isn't meant to be demeaning, insulting, or anything of the sort. Simply genuine advice that I hope you take, and remember, for future reference.

The animations are obscenely slow. The attacks have no weight to them. Imagine that creature in the room with you. Ask yourself, "would those attacks hurt?". The walk animation is much too slow, and the hip doesn't move at all. Walk back and forth, at the pace you want your model to go, and note the motion of your hips, and how your legs move and bend with each step. At the very least, the model should bob up and down, side to side, ever so slightly.

For now, this is all the advice you really need. If you need examples, I'd suggest you study the models in this list:
Model Viewer | HIVE
Model Viewer | HIVE
Model Viewer | HIVE
Model Viewer | HIVE
Model Viewer | HIVE
Model Viewer | HIVE
Model Viewer | HIVE

Those are some of my favorites, both for their attacks and walk animations. I'm looking forward to seeing what you learn from these.

I appreciate your advice and all, but the animations aren't slow. They may slow seem slow for you and you can fault me for that. But have you ever downloaded the Model and tested the Model without Hives Model Viewer?

In Magos they are fast. But i also agree that the attack animations lack the 'swipe' and 'smash' theme i wanted them to have.
I can work on that.

And i can work on the Walk animation too, but i already learned my lesson when it comes to speed.

Direfury · Mar 26, 2017

There is literally no difference between the animation speed in the Hive viewer, or in Magos.

Grimhollow · May 23, 2017

Good to see models like this. Two thumbs up!!

Grimhollow · May 24, 2017

Any plans of making a fel version of it ?

Mister_Haudrauf · May 25, 2017

Grimhollow said:
Any plans of making a fel version of it ?

Not really, because in a sense he is already a demon in the form of a Razormane/Quilboar.

Grimhollow · May 26, 2017

Mister_Haudrauf said:
Not really, because in a sense he is already a demon in the form of a Razormane/Quilboar.

Ah, I never thought he was demonic. Thanks for adding quilboar modles here, they are too few.

I hope you make another one a tank one holding a log as weapon

HappyCockroach · Jun 18, 2017

Looks good overall regarding its mesh and texture. And works well in-game, with the exception of the health bar showing way above. That must have to do with wrong animation extents. Recalculating extents might fix it.

And regarding its animations, the problem with them isn't that they're slow. They're low quality, in a sense they are too simplistic and unnatural. There's a lot of room to improvement. A good way to find reference to improve them is playing regular WC3 units animations in Wc3 Viewer. (You're able to reduce speed in that program, so you can pay attention at each detail)

It would be good if you reworked your model's animations - at least walk, so they have more impact. At the moment he moves around with his waist completely still, as if he wasn't stomping his hooves on the ground. (That generates impact)

Awaiting update.

Mister_Haudrauf · Jul 16, 2017

I actually don't know, if i made it better or worse.

Either way it's updated and i will probably update it in the future.

fyrekat3 · Jul 18, 2017

Nice mode. The trident animation are awesome but strange because the trident materializes from thin air. It would be nice if you made a variation whit a trident atached somwhere. I know that it is based on ganon from legend of zelda but people will most likely use it as a razormane hero or someting like that and the trident attacks are to awsome to not use. PS: Sorry if my english is bad.

General Frank · Oct 7, 2017

Please fix the animations - they are very slow and wooden.

Mister_Haudrauf · Oct 7, 2017

General Frank said:
Please fix the animations - they are very slow and wooden.

Set it to "Reject" or "Substandard". I am through with him. (Your choice from now on.)

General Frank · Oct 7, 2017

No updates. Moved to sub-standard.

ShadowMidas · Aug 23, 2018

the Animations is great but why is this model not good?

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