Pretty nice map, Knecht! You have a talent in map making, keep up the good work!

Interesting map design, good work. My only suggestions would be to add more trees at the starting locations (so players can wall off their bases and for general use), and to increase the item level drop of creeps at the Goblin Laboratory.

Watanays, but I think you should put some decor to mountains and cliffs to make it more realistic.

Yeah, more trees would be nice.

Updated as fast as I could. If anything needs to be changed, just write it down here and I'll try to improve what I can. This map was made when I didn't even know I could use PgUp/Dn to move objects on the z axis. My newer maps are imo more visually pleasing but it'll take some time for them to be fully done and posted here. The next one should be ready in a week or two, I hope.

Looking forward to seeing more maps from you. For now there's still one problem I failed to mention before. There shouldn't be any space between trees so people can't exploit them for hiding units. Check the examples below.

Once again, thank you for teaching me the basics Updated it
Is there any other thing to keep in mind when making melee maps? Any other exploits I should always look out for?

Make sure that creeps guarding gold mines always have 500 acquisition range, but I'm sure you knew this already. One more thing, avoid making too many tight roads and dead ends in the future. Your map has few of those, but it won't hurt the gameplay too much I feel like, since the map is clearly meant to be traversed by zeppelins.

My oh my are we behind on the review shedule aren't we?
Anyway, I tested this map quite a while ago and forgot to make the actual review, my bad
This is quite an interesting melee and quite fun actually, so I see no reason too keep it here longer.

Set to Approved

Congratulations!

Why not calculate shadows to add shadow effects to the mountains?

Thank you guys once again. I'm glad you found it fun. I've been quite busy doing college stuff so I haven't been able to do much wc3 stuff now. But hey, a new map is in the making (I had to actually scrap an almost finished map since it couldn't be properly balanced). And if I ever learn how to create models and textures I might be able to make the altered melees that have been sitting in my mind.
As for calculating the shadows - as weird as it sounds, I actually like it without them more since without the shadows, the pass really comes out and isn't as dark. It would be great if there was an option for dynamic shadows as the day passes by but whatevs.

Btw where can I upload the unfinished map to get some feedback on improvements?

Knecht said:

Thank you guys once again. I'm glad you found it fun. I've been quite busy doing college stuff so I haven't been able to do much wc3 stuff now. But hey, a new map is in the making (I had to actually scrap an almost finished map since it couldn't be properly balanced). And if I ever learn how to create models and textures I might be able to make the altered melees that have been sitting in my mind.
As for calculating the shadows - as weird as it sounds, I actually like it without them more since without the shadows, the pass really comes out and isn't as dark. It would be great if there was an option for dynamic shadows as the day passes by but whatevs.

Btw where can I upload the unfinished map to get some feedback on improvements?

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Press the button on the place you write a comment ''Upload a File'', and you can upload whatever you want.

Svetli said:

Press the button on the place you write a comment ''Upload a File'', and you can upload whatever you want.

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Thanks, here it is. Just a little something about this map: the gimmick was a shortage in lumber that should create some pvp in the valley with trees. The other idea was an easily approachable market on a map with good loot. I wanted to use the fog effect to "block" vision to other height levels but in the end whe wc3 camera works quite weird when it comes to huge height differences. The creep camps should encourage kiting. The choice in harpys as creeps for the observatory was imo poor but i had no other idea as to make the way around it passable without flying creeps. Also I felt that the undead would be disadvanteged since they need blight to build a graveyard and a NE Grove Keeper would be disadvantaged in a map with almost no trees. The map also had too many tight spots even though I tried to compensate for it by the branching paths. It was intended as a 4 player FFA, 1v1 or perhaps 2v2. Last note: the texturing and the outer areas aren't fully finished.

Edit: I forgot, the trees aren't aligned yet.