Final Fantasy VII Template v0.02b

Moderator · Nov 20, 2008

01:07, 7th Jul 2009
Linaze: We don't accept un-finished maps.

14:04, 11th Aug 2009
ap0calypse: Approved

This is the best FF-Template I've seen so far, it's very close to the original one.
Approved.

pkw · Nov 20, 2008

I must agree that this map's ATB system is amazing. (although Hero RPG is the best)
This would come in 2nd.

CloudWolf · Nov 20, 2008

I just had a quick play on this

Although, the timer kinda paused indefinately on the first battle, and stopped me from going any further :S

But from what I saw, when this game is finished, its gonna kick some ass

It has a really nice battle system, and the FF7 sounds / music give that FF7 feel we all know and love

Only down side is the terrain which is a bit plain. But apart from that, this map rocks my socks

Lukas · Dec 11, 2008

this map has potential but it lacks in models , but the gameplay is awesome it has "this" something from ff ^^ at least good ff map

Veil · Dec 13, 2008

u know there is a cat shith moddel :-D
well this game has potensiale, so keep working on it

FFVII_Valentine · Dec 14, 2008

Hero RPG is the best

I agree that map is my favorite of all time, and a great inspiration.

the timer kinda paused indefinately on the first battle

Thanks for letting me know. I added it to the bugs section in my original post. I have reduced the frequency of this bug, but it can still happen; so still working on it.

Only down side is the terrain which is a bit plain

Yes, I am not much of a terrainer and also I am just trying to keep the map size down a bit and get the concepts out first. This is also true for the spells; they are very plain at the moment.

this map has potential but it lacks in models

Thank you for all the models you sent me. I have all ready added the Cloud and Tifa you gave me.

u know there is a cat shith moddel :-D

I have seen Cait Sith and Cid models on Warcraft Unlimited, but the quality was not great. If you can, please direct me to the Cait Sith model you have seen.

If anyone is wondering what models I am currently using check the credits section in my original post.

aaron · Dec 14, 2008

this is nice for a beta i cant imagine what you will do when its finished

Tau Empire · Dec 15, 2008

I've downloaded this on Epicwar a couple of months ago im not sure if this is the same version as that site but there isen't a boss fight

, I would do a remake of FF7 which will cost me about a good 1000+ hours of work and writing so skip that lol, maybe just a simple scene like assault on Mako Reactor 7, or Invade the Underwater Mako Reactor, or maybe even fight the WEAPONS lol.

Help wanted eh? sure I'll help.

Lil_Scubby · Dec 15, 2008

Heya i found a big bug. When you beat the black chocobo in a class C Race it never goes out of the chocobo race. Just to let you know. I would also increase the speed in between the better chocobos since i beat the Black Chocobo with a Common.

FFVII_Valentine · Dec 24, 2008

Heya i found a big bug. When you beat the black chocobo in a class C Race it never goes out of the chocobo race. Just to let you know.

If you were fast enough to beat the black chocobo in a class C race that means the rest of the common chocobos were very far behind you. At the moment the race will not end until all chocobos have crossed the finish line. If all chocobos had finished the race and you were still stuck there then there must be an error and I will need to look into it. I will consider adding an option to leave the race once you finish instead of waiting for the other chocobos.

I would also increase the speed in between the better chocobos since i beat the Black Chocobo with a Common.

You beat the black chocobo in a class C race. The black chocobo has improved stats in the higher class races. The racing classes are Class C, Class B, Class A, and Class S. Class C is the slowest and Class S is the fastest.
As you bread your chocobos you get different colored chocobos with improved stats. The different chocobo types are Common, Green, Blue, Black, and Gold. Common chocobos are the slowest and Gold chocobos are the fastest.
Having said this a level 99 Common chocobo is faster than a level 1 Gold chocobo.

l10n-he4rt · Feb 16, 2009

may i ask you to borrow the cloud model ? if searched over the net and couldn't find any that Lady Kelaodesi made.

FFVII_Valentine · Feb 27, 2009

may i ask you to borrow the cloud model ? if searched over the net and couldn't find any that Lady Kelaodesi made.

The models were not created by me, having said that my map is not protected so you can get the files from my map, but make sure you give credit to the creators just like I have.

Mitchomitch · Mar 7, 2009

Nice Map with cool FF-feeling^^ It needs work in models, but I don't really care. 5/5! +rep

matudele · Mar 8, 2009

well i have played this and i have to inform you about a bug i saw in the game.
its when you are fighting if you attack the same enemy that its attacking you the entire game crashes,you should revise that or else guys will begin to complain.
but taking away that really cool(and if you dont know how to use hotkeys)big
battle system.you made a good map keep the good work :thumbs_up:

FFVII_Valentine · Mar 8, 2009

Mitchomitch: Nice Map with cool FF-feeling^^ It needs work in models, but I don't really care. 5/5! +rep

Thanks very much, so glad you liked it!

matudele: well i have played this and i have to inform you about a bug i saw in the game.
its when you are fighting if you attack the same enemy that its attacking you the entire game crashes,you should revise that or else guys will begin to complain.
but taking away that really cool(and if you dont know how to use hotkeys)big
battle system.you made a good map keep the good work

Glad you liked the map too, and thanks heaps for letting me know about a bug, its only happend to me on my laptop (cause its slower im guessing), then I thought I fixed it, but maybe not. Did it happen to you on the latest version, the one I uploaded less than 24 hours ago?

matudele · Mar 8, 2009

yeah it was that one i think

FFVII_Valentine · Mar 12, 2009

matudele: yeah it was that one i think

I think the crash may have been caused because I was using a unitgroup array up to a size of 12, but was only setting the original array size to 1 in the variable editor. I have changed this as well as a few other changes and uploaded a new version, if anyone still finds the game is crashing or any other problems let me know.

ap0calypse · Mar 12, 2009

This is a very good project, this is what I found out:

Smooth menu if you get used to it, but you should explain it.
(example: I thought the "Battle"-menu would be used for battles, but the "abilities (active)"-menu is used for that)
Materia-system is very nice (it looks like the socket-system I created in one of my unfinished maps)
Wide variety of materia, but not that much weapons
The chocobo-race is great, but gets boring after a while and you always lose with the captured chocobo's (you'll never win an S-rank race with those chocobo's and levelling to 5 for breeding is a real pain, though it might get better with save/load).
Terrain looks good, nothing extraordinary though
Very good shop-system

In general:
really great map, the idea is clearly there, you just need to finish it (which will be a lot of work).

p.s.: Hide the information on this page, please

FFVII_Valentine · Mar 13, 2009

ap0calypse: Smooth menu if you get used to it, but you should explain it.
(example: I thought the "Battle"-menu would be used for battles, but the "abilities (active)"-menu is used for that)

I agree with everything you have said about the menus and have made the changes and uploaded:

Abilities (Passive) Menu changed to Passive Abilities Menu
Abilities (Active) Menu changed to Battle Abilities Menu
Battle Menu changed to Battle Option Menu

Materia-system is very nice (it looks like the socket-system I created in one of my unfinished maps)
Wide variety of materia, but not that much weapons

Yes lots of materia

I'd love to see your system too.
I havent made many Weapons yet because it is just a demo and I'm finding it hard coming up with all the creative ideas required to make a large variety of weapons.

The chocobo-race is great, but gets boring after a while and you always lose with the captured chocobo's (you'll never win an S-rank race with those chocobo's and levelling to 5 for breeding is a real pain, though it might get better with save/load).

The key to winning a chocobo race is to use short bursts of the trot ability (making sure to keep your stamina near max for the majority of the race).
having said that winning an S Class race is really hard. You would need a Common chocobo that is at a rediculously high level, or a gold chocobo of course.
I totally agree with you I wouldn't want to attempting getting every type of chocobo to level 5 in a single session to breed up to a gold chocobo. For testing purposes I just use the lvlup cheat.

Terrain looks good, nothing extraordinary though
Very good shop-system

Thats the closest I've had to a complement about the terrain. I've left the terrain plain so people can easily completely change it and make a map the way they want it using the systems I have created.
Glad you like the shops. Ive tried to make the shop menus and all the other menus consistant throughout the map.

p.s.: Hide the information on this page, please

Done. (if you mean the thread's main description)

ap0calypse · Mar 13, 2009

Creativity is the only thing that seperates great map makers, who knows how to use GUI perfectly from amazing map makers, who create something competely new, add a twist to it and add a large variety of items/spells/units to the map.

Maybe this can help for new items: FFVII Items

I'm glad to see the map is making some progress, FFVII is the best game I've ever played and this map is a really good simulation of it.

FFVII Valentine said:
Done. (if you mean the thread's main description)

That's exactly what I ment ^^

FFVII Valentine said:
I'd love to see your system too

That will take some time I think... first I'm going to finish Elemental Chaos TD, then I'm going to work on the map with those sockets (The Kings Call HD).

T4COBELL · Mar 15, 2009

I like what you're doing. I think FFVII is a great game. One of the best. I liked the story-line, but also the soundtrack. A website makes redone soundtracks for games (Not remixes like in hip-hop (which are obnoxious)). Go to ff7.ocremix.org and some of the music doesn't quite fit the moment in the games, but i like the opening bombing mission theme they did, and it would work too. I'm working on something similar, but I want it to be the mega game of all ff7 remakes, with original storyline, but can't find good models. If anyone can point me to a skilled modeler or some existing models (I've got sephiroth) that are useful that would be great. I need Midgar with details so i can do the intro!!!

ap0calypse · Mar 15, 2009

T4COBELL said:
A website makes redone soundtracks for games

There's also a band that exclusively remakes FF-music, but it's a metal-band
They're called "The Black Mages", I think they're pretty good ^^

They keep the FF-style, but they use electric guitars/keyboards/drum.

T4COBELL · Mar 15, 2009

Yeah I know. I don't really like them. Their one-winged angel is really annoying and overdone.

Lukas · Mar 17, 2009

I wish someone made ff7 (8,9 too;p) with whole it's plot some cinematics and playable online on battle net ^^ and FFVII_Valentine what are you gonna do? have you decide? part of the game or more^^?

Tau Empire · Mar 17, 2009

Lukas said:
I wish someone made ff7 (8,9 too;p) with whole it's plot some cinematics and playable online on battle net ^^ and FFVII_Valentine what are you gonna do? have you decide? part of the game or more^^?

Lol of course he's gonna do part of it because fitting 40+ hours of gameplay into a warcraft 3 map or campaign is really long and impossible.

FFVII_Valentine · Mar 18, 2009

T4COBELL:I'm working on something similar, but I want it to be the mega game of all ff7 remakes, with original storyline, but can't find good models.

Sounds exciting, keep me updated on your progress. Feel free to use anything from my map (including models) remembering to credit the creators. Theres the Models section on this website and also there are models at Warcraft 3 Unlimited.

T4COBELL: Go to ff7.ocremix.org and some of the music doesn't quite fit the moment in the games, but i like the opening bombing mission theme they did, and it would work too.
ap0calypse: There's also a band that exclusively remakes FF-music, but it's a metal-band
They're called "The Black Mages", I think they're pretty good ^^

The song ideas are great guys the only problem is keeping file size down for multiplayer.
I was allready considering adding the opening bombing mission song to the map and the one on that website is a nice version of it.

Lukas: I wish someone made ff7 (8,9 too;p) with whole it's plot some cinematics and playable online on battle net ^^ and FFVII_Valentine what are you gonna do? have you decide? part of the game or more^^?

What does everyone think would be a good section of the game to remake?

(taking into account wc3 doesn't have much futuristic terrain available that looks like places like midgar)
(though custom terrain can be used, but once again file size)

And just for the record the map has to remain an inspiration for now because I wont attempt to make a detailed larger scale map on my own.

ap0calypse · Mar 18, 2009

FFVII_Valentine said:
What does everyone think would be a good section of the game to remake?

Hmm, that's a hard one, I like the whole story xD

Maybe from where Aerith dies untill the end?

Then you can start with her dying and the main boss is Sephiroth (though he's one of your characters :s).

T4COBELL · Mar 18, 2009

The final assault on North Crater definitely, and the date at the Golden Saucer =D. The Temple of Ancients and the Forgotten city are both pretty epic. The escape from midgar also. Any of those are good sections to do. The assault on Midgar would be nice. Also the flashback in Niblehem (The original or the actual would still be good). Those are my fav parts.

Valentine said:
And just for the record the map has to remain an inspiration for now because I wont attempt to make a detailed larger scale map on my own.

I could help, and my friend is working on an RPG but helping me a lil but and I could ask him to. Hes a monster with JASS.

Valentine said:
Sounds exciting, keep me updated on your progress. Feel free to use anything from my map (including models) remembering to credit the creators. Theres the Models section on this website and also there are models at Warcraft 3 Unlimited.

Yeah i've already checked those and found some good models, but not a lot of HQ ones. I haven't really started it yet. I have a friend doing some initial coding (because I don't JASS) and i've been searching for good resources. I'm also looking for people to help. It is currently...
Me-Organization, concept, directing
Aerox-Coding
Our own personal modeler/skinner/animator would be really awesome. If anybody is interested please tell me.

Lukas · Mar 18, 2009

T4COBELL said:
I need Midgar with details so i can do the intro!!!

Midgard2.2 - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
here you have Midgard maybe not very good but it's always something;p;p

T4COBELL · Mar 18, 2009

Yeah i found that. I was hoping for something more HQ. +It has the Sister Ray which isn't there in beginning.

Tau Empire · Mar 18, 2009

FFVII_Valentine said:
Sounds exciting, keep me updated on your progress. Feel free to use anything from my map (including models) remembering to credit the creators. Theres the Models section on this website and also there are models at Warcraft 3 Unlimited.

The song ideas are great guys the only problem is keeping file size down for multiplayer.
I was allready considering adding the opening bombing mission song to the map and the one on that website is a nice version of it.

What does everyone think would be a good section of the game to remake?
(taking into account wc3 doesn't have much futuristic terrain available that looks like places like midgar)
(though custom terrain can be used, but once again file size)

And just for the record the map has to remain an inspiration for now because I wont attempt to make a detailed larger scale map on my own.

Actually Vincent why don't you wait for Starcraft 2 since they have more futuristic stuff and tiles so it won't be as hard if you made it on that instead of Warcraft 3

FFVII_Valentine · Mar 23, 2009

T4COBELL: Yeah i've already checked those and found some good models, but not a lot of HQ ones. I haven't really started it yet. I have a friend doing some initial coding (because I don't JASS) and i've been searching for good resources. I'm also looking for people to help. It is currently...
Me-Organization, concept, directing
Aerox-Coding

Tau Empire: Actually Vincent why don't you wait for Starcraft 2 since they have more futuristic stuff and tiles so it won't be as hard if you made it on that instead of Warcraft 3

Good point Tau and the Starcraft II editor should hopefully be more powerful.
For now I am going to focus on making more fancy multiboard menus and T4COBELL if you like I will help you with your project.

T4COBELL · Mar 23, 2009

I don't think there's any point in you working on two maps. I'll help you with yours because we haven't really started making it yet.

Tau Empire · Mar 23, 2009

T4COBELL said:
I don't think there's any point in you working on two maps. I'll help you with yours because we haven't really started making it yet.

Actually Vincent ain't working on the FF7 map, the main purpose of his map was to show a demonstration of a system that uses the same as FF7, he really didn't want to make a FF7 map in the first place.

Tau Empire · Mar 27, 2009

Derospixon said:
This is like the real game! I can't wait for the finished product.

Well if you can wait for about 2 years then sure it will be released lol.

T4COBELL · Mar 29, 2009

Very close to the truth.

Lukas · Apr 1, 2009

many people search for this so I decide upload It here since it'svery popular thread for FF fans;pFF pack of models that I found I'll be helpful for all ff map makers ^^
I know there are some lacks in credits so let me know if you notice it and you know who's creator

Lukas · Apr 1, 2009

Update: I've found some new ff7 models by Kingzachery
Turks : Reno ,Rude,Rufus,Tsang and Yuffie

DarkChaplain · Jun 8, 2009

In the Videos you didn't used an icon for barret.
I made plenty of Icons for FFVII, Before Crisis, Crisis Core, Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus. Sadly i will never be able to get them approved, but if you want to take a look, i would upload them to e.g. rapidshare and give the link to you?

FFVII_Valentine · Jun 9, 2009

DarkChaplain said:
In the Videos you didn't used an icon for barret.
I made plenty of Icons for FFVII, Before Crisis, Crisis Core, Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus. Sadly i will never be able to get them approved, but if you want to take a look, i would upload them to e.g. rapidshare and give the link to you?

Lukas has since made icons for the map. Thanx Lukas

I would still love to see your icons, upload them on Warcraft 3 Unlimited because you don't have to worry about approval on that website, almost all resources are accepted.

Tau Empire · Aug 5, 2009

Can anyone say what gives? Map has been rejected without explanation, must be one of those sucky mods on Hive lol.

CloudWolf · Aug 5, 2009

Tau Empire said:
Can anyone say what gives? Map has been rejected without explanation, must be one of those sucky mods on Hive lol.

My guess is because its a demo

According to the hive rules, the map section is for generally complete maps

People can still upload demo's to the "Map Development" forums though as an attachment

Tau Empire · Aug 5, 2009

Yes but think about this for a second, the map is complete because this is a template map, the terrain was meant to be borring so it won't be much trouble for the users to terrain it.

So in other words it was a badly reviewed.

krisserz · Aug 6, 2009

So you`ve uploaded it. Damn, I`ve got no PC :/ But from what I`ve been playing on the tests from map development it is great. 4/5.

Latecat · Aug 6, 2009

All i can ask is 1 question: why is sephiroth as a playable character?

Other than that, its kickass!

Tau Empire · Aug 6, 2009

Cause he was in Cloud's story =3

Latecat · Aug 6, 2009

I know he was, he is the main villain of FFVII afterall, but why is he playable?

Spet · Aug 6, 2009

Cant wait till its finished

FFVII_Valentine · Aug 7, 2009

krisserz: But from what I`ve been playing on the tests from map development it is great. 4/5.
mare: Other than that, its kickass!

Thanks very much, glad you like it

mare: All i can ask is 1 question: why is sephiroth as a playable character?
I know he was, he is the main villain of FFVII afterall, but why is he playable?

Yeah I agree with you that in Final Fantasy VII on PS1/PC Sephiroth was predominately a villain. He was only part of the party in a flashback sequence.
I included him as a playable character in this map because the excellent model exists and I am sure a lot of people will enjoy the opertunity to play as him, but if I was making a full fledged map he would most likely be removed as a playable character and instead used as a boss.

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