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Fate Proxy v5.0

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Fate Proxy
Created by jiafish

Map Info:

Only confirmed to work for patch 1.31.1

This map is based on the fate franchise, about the story of seven masters
each summoning a heroic spirit as their servant in a fight to the death
battle royale to win the holy grail.

Players control two heroes, a master and a servant. The master is weak and
can be easily killed, thus leaving the servant to do all the fighting.
However the master must be the one to claim the grail so he cannot die.

The map is huge and servants vary in strength. One must play their
servant's strength and try to eliminate all other masters, whether by
building a stronghold, assassinating a master or allying to take down a
stronger opponent.


Features:

There are two main game modes.
Grail War mode is the master servant pairing fighting to win the grail.

Battle Royale mode allows the players to pick whatever servant they want and fight ffa in an arena. When the time limit is up, score will be calculated based on how well each player performed.

Note: For Grail War mode, the class system means the servants are classified into seven classes. Saber, Lancer, Archer, Rider, Caster, Berserker, Assassin. For the use class submode, only one servant of each class can be summoned. For no class, there is no such restriction.

This map has a functional AI system. The enemy servants will seek out activity positions and attack, use spells, run away etc.


Misc features:

This map tries to accurately reflect the series in many aspects; terrain,
ability, system, music etc.

Other features include mana system, spirit system, mouse click based battle
system, master protection, citizen system, and many more. They are described in detail in the quest menu in game.


Screenshots and Videos:


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Changelog:




v5.0
Massive overhaul of the entire terrain. Now uses the maximum terrain size.
Custom models for famous landmarks
Rewrote entire game system in vjass
Rewrote about half of the spells in vjass
Reworked diarmuid, vlad.
Made changes to various spells



Credits:


Credits:

Many of the models, spells and systems used in this map are made by others. I was not able to get all the names down but ill just put down what i have. If you have made something that i forgot to credit you for, i apologize. Please contact me and i will add your name.

models:


cytwscyt
x10azgmfx
EbonyStallion
_Blitz_
Tailer007
ZODD
Forheart
The Ultimate Terraining Map 4.0 - Hiveworkshop


according to hive's resource in use feature: (awesome feature btw)

Bruecke - Trollschnitzel
DBZSkyScraper - gotenkz
blackhole - Mc !
WotW Building - BlackSebastian
Orbitalstrike - Callahan
Flame Bomb, Sun, NuclearExplosion, Dirt Explosion - WILL THE ALMIGHTY
ZapMissle - RED BARON
Town10, BuildingsNew - Kofi_Banan
City Building 1 - HappyTauren
tory3 - SeW
No Name - Cedricus
Zahnrad - Elunes-Guardian
LightSaber3D - Illidan(Evil)X
CrushingWaveMissile, GrandVampiricAura, WispExplode, ShimmeringPortal, NagaBirth, Dark Nova, Light Nova, Brilliance, FireTrapUp - JetFangInferno
Modern Building - Ham Ham
Cargo Container - Illidan(Evil)X
Flame Thrower - Champara Bros
Factory, Refinery - Mechanical Man
Street Name Sign, Stop Sign - 3rgytr54
Heliport - SataX
Black Wings - Hanza-Ru
Goblet - Soul Theft
Building - Mulgrim
FlowerAura - Miaha
HouseVar1Up1 - Amigurumi
Crane by chilla_killa
WorgenManor - Sellenisko
RunningFlame_Aura - sPy
Holy_Fire_Slam - ratamahatta
Cathedral - eubz
Elevator - bisnar13
Large Purple Magic Explosion - Azsure, familla
Claymore - Kitabatake
Restaurant, Apartment, The Burger Place, Radio Tower, Yin, Yang, GreeneTech - JB_McKnight
Cannonball - JesusHipster
IceSlam - valkemiere
Green Light - nhocklanhox6
DarkElfAura - Sellenisko
Black Hole - Fingolfin
VoidSkullAura_v5 - xyzier_24
Star - Hate
Force Shield(no colour) - ApeJI
Modern Antenna - Grey Knight
Citizen House - MassiveMaster
University - Mike
Sidewalk_Tile.blp, RoadTileset.blp - The_Silent


icons:
ShiroiSenji


systems:
item stacking: Googlieeyes
damage engine: Bribe
alliance system: faith
knockback based on: Daredeamon




Author's notes:

This map was made for my own enjoyment. Spent way too much time on it.
It is also bilingual. Contains both chinese and english descriptions for everything. If you see empty spaces it's just the chinese words taking up space.


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Fate Proxy v5.0 (Map)

Reviews
20:07, 30th Aug 2015 Shadow Fury: The map is really buggy and problematic therefore it is set to needs fix.
deepstrasz
This is not an RPG. It's an Arena map. Please remove/replace the RPG tag. Avoid playing music through the sound channel. Use the trigger that plays it through through the music channel. Optional quests have no title. They're just ? with blank titles...

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Moderator

20:07, 30th Aug 2015
Shadow Fury: The map is really buggy and problematic therefore it is set to needs fix.
 
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Big Images Are Actually better. However if you really need to reduce the Size, you must use a Photo editing Program.

The Terrain is fine, but can be decorated More.
Custom and Flashy spells are recommended and you used them. Good.
The Idea is good, a hero Arena and Defense and Aggro.

PS: I hate Anime, but this might be a good One.

I don't vote or Rate though.
 

Ardenian

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Ardenian

jiafish said:
Also many models were found without author
Where did you find them ?


Arad MNK said:
Custom and Flashy spells are recommended and you used them
Don't make a personal preference a general rule, please :/
 

Ardenian

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Ardenian

Well, who recommend ? I think saying 'Custom and Flashy spells are recommended because players like them' is maybe correct, but simply saying they are recommended, I think it might sound as if the moderators do so.

Anyways, off-topic.

I am going to check this map out, in case no moderator is faster than me.

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Feedback:

- Map lags horrible, especially at initialization
- not every passive ability has a passive button ( 'Avalon' from Hercules for example)
- The game is newbie-unfriendly, since your are thrown into action, having hardly any explanation what to do
- The buildings miss any pathing blockers, one can simply walk through them
 
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I agree with Ardenian's points but he missed the most important... green icons! There are green icons everywhere because you did not import the DISBTN of all icons (or you imported them incorrectly). This is against the rules so you must fix this.
In addition, the heroes are totally unbalanced. Some are very weak (the guy who summons rats and has passive skills for example), some destroy you with a spell (Caster for instance). I don't even understand who's the servant and who's the main hero in the battles because it is so confusing. The excessive use of the very flashy spells may cause unbearable lag in multiplayer so I suggest you reduce the effects to an acceptable value. If you really need to spam an effect, be sure it's a light one that can be handled without lagging issues.
Furthermore, keep in mind that if your hero starts at level 10, you need some time to get familiar with the hero but apparently you're immediately dropped in the action with 100 spells (servant spells + hero's spells + spell books for both) you have no clue what they do. I just spammed all of them on the enemy, hoping to achieve some result.
Finally, the map is set to needs fix.
 
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good reviews guys. thank you all for trying the map.

-hercules doesnt have an avalon skill so im not sure what that is.
-buildings are meant to be walked through
-ah, the green icons.. removing them are for a more.. polished map. its just too much work getting disabled icon for all of them.
-the heroes by design are very unbalanced. alliances are needed but then again i dont know how that works out in multiplayer.

i did this all on my own and never did any testing for multiplayer so im not really sure how it pans out for online gameplay or new players.
but since there isnt a lot of people left to play this anyways, this was mostly just for my own entertainment. I just posted it in case some other fate fan find this enjoyable.
 
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I don't know man, I really like the map, and its not too "newbie-unfriendly" like the other guy said, there are enough hints in f9 and the rest can be learned from looking at your spells.
 

Ardenian

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Ardenian

jiafish said:
hercules doesnt have an avalon skill so im not sure what that is.
Maybe I confused the hero, but on hero or summoned hero had a passive skill called sth with 'Avalon' which had an active button.

If you don't want to polish your own map, then this is the wrong place for your map. Hiveworkshop is meant to be a place for users wanting to work on and to improve their skills and their maps, we are not epicwar or other sites who simply accept everything.

Goindarkness said:
its not too "newbie-unfriendly" like the other guy said
'The other guy' still think it is. There is no time to look in the quest log and having tons of spells requires a lot of playing to actually learn how to properly use them.
 
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ohhh i think i missed something on how hive works lol. i thought u just upload and it goes through. my bad.

I guess i didnt realize it gets approved due to polished-ness. I thought that as long as its a decent map it should get approved. especially in a declining state as war3 is.

If you look at my other map that was approved.. that one was a much simpler, much worse map, but somehow it was approved. There were no custom icons, little to no trigger and custom spells and a even more bland terrain.

The map certainly has its flaws but it is a working map with plenty of features for people interested in this to play with. I have worked hard on, and improved my skills a lot while making on the map, isnt that what hive is looking for?

I no longer has the time to edit this further, but i wish to share it with the few who might wish to play something like this.

The map is playable, just not noob friendly. In my mind it is marketed towards a very specific crowed. specifically those that watch the show and should already know most skills and how they work.
 

Ardenian

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Ardenian

You get me wrong, a map does not get approved if it is polished.

It gets approved if it follows all the map submission rules, which your map does not, as Shadow Fury points out ( green icons).
 
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Let's not forget the lag! People cannot play your game in multiplayer if it lags heavily, which is another reason this is needs fix. While the noob-unfriendly thing may be solved by playing the map a lot (though not all people will do that), the lag and green icons cannot without appropriate updates. Don't forget that extreme unbalance is unappreciated. If you get a crappy hero, it will be very boring to play because you just can't touch other players.
 
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Err, Servant spells are rather straight forward, and you can hide in buildings to get time to read f9, really not a issue, just because you can't even figure out how to avoid other players by hiding, doesn't mean its 'newbie-unfriendly' to everyone. Plus the people I play with + me don't experience any lag, so I don't know what to tell ya.
 

deepstrasz

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Set to Pending for remoderation due to it having been updated and author calling for another glance.

EDIT:
  1. This is mostly an Arena map, not quite an RPG.
  2. Avoid playing music through the sound channel. Use the trigger that plays it through through the music channel.
  3. Optional quests have no title. They're just ? with blank titles. There is text when clicking on them (their description).
  4. Please credit the games and companies from which the icons, models, music etc. were ripped from (map thread description).
  5. Passive abilities should have passive looking icons. Gawain's Skillful Swords is a passive ability with an active icon. You could make the icon look passive with this: Button Manager v1.8.2
  6. Spells and mostly everything should have proper descriptions: values (damage, life, chance etc.) and what they do. For instance Blade of the Devoted's description is lacking.
    Tooltip Tutorial
    Creating Good Descriptions
Generally the map is in chaos.

Approved.


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