12:27, 30th Jun 2008
VGsatomi: Seemed like a good idea. I played, build my first setup of towers, waited to see what I was up against.....and waited....and waited......

I never made it to the first wave. You really should start the action a little sooner. I had all my gold used up and waited a long time for the action to start....it never came before I got bored and left

Septimus : I have play this map at gg-client with my buddy and I really enjoy it, but people have no idea that they should type -e or -n to enable the wave started. The invasion is getting quite a gay when you break the portal, and it is kinda funny when it said "You have make a wise choice".

Yeah, I agree... a wise choice to suicide since those tower attack seems to be like a water cannon that does no damage... those creep are kinda scary when the portal been destroy...

Easy mode are too easy, any idiot could accomplish it as well... but as for normal... i won't said so...

I give this map a rating 5.. it is not quite challenging once you know what to do.. but i suggest everybody not to destroy the portal unless you want to suicide...

By the way, the portal is quite gay... for those who don't know what i trying to said, try build a tower close to it...

So can you play Solo? My internet access is extremely limited upstairs...

sure can play solo. but unlike my other maps, there is no AI in this map. which means computer players will not move.

only blue gets gold and its not enough to make the required 15 towers to start the game so as it may look cool you cant play it...

ya, i know about this bug, i forgot to set golds and lumbers for other players. i will solve this at the next version. but it still can be played. i mean play solo. u choose blue players and play alone. most ppl play like tat. And there is another rule for this game : with the more number of players, u will have fewer golds at the startup. so, just try to play blue player alone.

Well I will review your TD:

[+]Global TD idea,forever
[+]A very,webbed terrain!
[+]Unlike DJ Satomi said,the time wasn't so long,it was prolly for building those towers
[/]Should of added upgrade feature
[/]Pretty simple,when it comes to waves
[/]Should of made the Builder fly,not activate a spell
[-]Well,Fire Wall isn't placeable in front of the creeps
[-]Pretty easy in full house
[-]Full house or it becomes imbalanced
[-]Few places to camp your towers


Well,I hereby give you a 3.5/5 ,just because it was too simple.

Anyway,I loved the idea it was great,something never seen before!

thanks for the review, too simple? you finished the game easily? actually there are commands to make the game harder, not sure whether you have tried it or not.

it will be great if you could review my AoS - Cops And Robbers AI too. hehe..

Well,if I have to compare your maps,Police Catch Thief is your best map.

But also,I like Epic TD more.

This map is impossible to do when a low amount of players, either this is what you want, if not. Please make a way of making it easier when there's only a few players in.

I really cant give this map a proper review because, I diddn't get to play it that much. But Add some upgrades, make the builder fly all the time, and make sure that you can build more places. it seems that some places you simply cant build, when it would be nice, if you could.

there are a few difficulties in the map, you may read it in Map Info (F9). It is possible to beat the map with low amount of players.

it seems that some places you simply cant build, when it would be nice, if you could.

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i deliberately make like that, especially nearer to the portals. so that you cant just build a lot of towers at the center.

But Add some upgrades, make the builder fly all the time,

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ok, in the new version

I enjoy this map very much, but i recommend you to improve the terrain if you could..

A lot of my buddy said "Wow, nice map.. i really enjoy it.. but i would like it even more if the terrain look better.."

Well,I like the ''webbed'' concept was so different when you looked at the minimap!

Why don't you just make a timer to start the rounds? Isn't that more suitable than waiting for everyone to use up all their golds when we don't even know where there pathing/good spots is/are.

A lot of my buddy said "Wow, nice map.. i really enjoy it.. but i would like it even more if the terrain look better.."

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haha, thanks for the +rep man! the terrain is still not special enough? Or do you guys mean that the terrain should be simplified?

Well,I like the ''webbed'' concept was so different when you looked at the minimap!

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haha, yupe, that's why I made the terrain like that.

Why don't you just make a timer to start the rounds? Isn't that more suitable than waiting for everyone to use up all their golds when we don't even know where there pathing/good spots is/are

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The round starts when 15 towers were built, not when everyone used up their gold.
Because the map is extremely big, if I made the timer, some people may complain that the time is not enough. Actually the instructions are in the map, there shouldn't be a problem for the players to understand how to start the game.

Well,so far the TD could just use some more gameplay updating and that's it!

haha, yupe, any suggestions to improve the map? maybe adding more modes?

Well,making some explicite building lines!

Creeps tend to go strangely,and some more types of units at the same time will do fine.

I see, ok, sure.
Maybe I will add 1 mode, in that mode the creep will not go strangely hehe

Do that,and also correct that thing with Fly Mode/Walk Mode ,make the unit fly as it's movement type!

Oh, do you mean that the default movement should be fly? then how about the "Flying Builder"? What should I change the name to?

I don't know,really!

Emprovise!

Hehe,and I just saw,you got a Rating 5 :Highly Recomended!

I'm glad I reviewed your map,job well done!

haha emprovise? what is that? lol
where did you saw rating 5?
hehe, thanks for the review.

Well I just hosted the map, we were full house and had 63 towers. But it would not start. I tried to set it to -e or -n but it just did not beging. So sorry to say that but it is 1/5 for me.

The game will not auto start like the other TD map. It will start once all of you built your towers, (total 15 towers)
Please read the game instructions. It's written inside the game.

Did you read what I wrote? We had a total tower count of 63. No start.

Hey man, I read your post yesterday and u wrote "63 players" instead of "63 towers"

btw do you have the replay?
And what towers did you build?

Yep sorry, I already changed it.

Nope sorry I do not have a replay. I for myself build 5 different towers what the other players did I do not know anymore.

Hey there Zach,how's mapping going?

I've recently played this TD again,good memories!

Nope sorry I do not have a replay. I for myself build 5 different towers what the other players did I do not know anymore.

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Or perhaps they left the game and that's why it did not start? I think you should try it again because all of us can play the map well here. It doesn't deserve a rating of 1/5. Even the moderator gave a rating of 5/5 here

NearbyHermit, I had the same feeling as you too hehe. Zach, where have you gone? long time no see.

Gurkenglee, you suck! everybody is having fun playing this map and you were saying that it couldnt start and giving it a rating of 1? holy cow..

Wow... I just stated one problem.. If you want more Ill be happy 2 give them!
1. By the time you get to a location to build a tower, most creeps have already passed it.
2. The map area is so big that youd have to build about 10 towers every couple a yards, also considering the towers hardly do any damage...
3. You could at least warn people that the portals will destroy you'r towers... Nearly everyone that played this game commented on that.
4. How are u suppsoe to play when u can hardly get any money, like I said earlier, hard to kill creeps...
5. Not enoguh creeps spawn at a time, what, 10 or 15 at once? again going back to my 1st statement, with the area being so huge, how do u kill them? If not make the towers stronger, at least give more lives and more creeps that spawn at a time...

Would you like me 2 go on Jen..? P.S. My english is poor? "your english are so poor"... WOW, lol

by seeing your comments, you are actually not yet get used to this map. the problems you have stated actually can be solved and can be played. you just need time to improve your skills. i suggest you play easy mode first.

1. By the time you get to a location to build a tower, most creeps have already passed it.

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you can change your builder to fly mode, or use ability to speed up yourself / teleport or use any abilities to damage the enemies.

2. The map area is so big that youd have to build about 10 towers every couple a yards,also considering the towers hardly do any damage...

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no, if you are playing that way, you can't win the game. basically you just have to build towers around the portal (starting portal and destination portals)

3. You could at least warn people that the portals will destroy you'r towers... Nearly everyone that played this game commented on that.

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what for? when you played for the first time, you will know it already. not much people will read the FAQ or hints before playing the game for the first time.

4. How are u suppsoe to play when u can hardly get any money, like I said earlier, hard to kill creeps...

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your tactic is wrong, that's why hard to kill creeps. it is easy to earn gold actually.

5. Not enoguh creeps spawn at a time, what, 10 or 15 at once? again going back to my 1st statement, with the area being so huge, how do u kill them? If not make the towers stronger, at least give more lives and more creeps that spawn at a time...

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refer to my answer above. by the way, there are strong towers in this game, but you have to unlock them, which is stated in the game too. and if you destroyed the central portal, definitely it is gonna be hard for you to play it because the creeps get stronger and actually that is the hardest mode of this game.