Date: 22:19:52 16-Dec-11
Map Moderator: -Kobas-
Map Status: Rejected 1/5
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Rejection Reasons:
Map has low quality terrain!
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Comment: I explained problem already, replace lava with something other.

Very nice map 5/5

Is this some kind of cave or what, dust is falling down from the sky?
Anyway, I don't like it, you should create better bridges, edit doodads and shape terrain better, lava tiles with that fire rising from time to time should damage units or something like that, in like 100% of cases, that's why it's in melee maps used for unreachable locations, I like idea, but you somehow presented it badly. Lightning is really dark, your map miss lightning effects and resources so it can handle such dark fog. Now it just bother eyes, lightning has no effect. There are many more objects and resources that you didn't used, for example crystals or glaciers. Also waterfalls or moving lava can increase terrain beauty.

To sum everything melee map can't handle this terrain, you have 2 options:
1st. Replace lava with different tile, (for example poison and lava be replaced), just find way to keep lava away from standard pathing ground.
2nd. Edit doodads, add more and more resources, forget about melee shape and go for terrain/template map type.

Wow! This looks terribly awesome, might give it a try though.

-Kobas-, Well, from my point of view, the map is good enough.
The dust is not "falling from the sky", cuz ingame you can't see where is it exactly falling from. And yes, it is cave. And i want this to be a melee map, not some of the stupid non balanced and buggy alternated melees. If i put "damage from the fire" and etc, then if the computer playes leave thier army on the lava, then what? And i dont want to change the terrain tiles after such a hard work, i like it as it is. And i really like it. The thing i am agreed with you is the fog and the doodads. Yes, im agreed i put too dark fog, really, looks like i'm playing the warcraft on higher lighning gamma, that's why i didn't noticed it. And yes, there are not enough environments, i will try o fix that. But about the damage and etc things, i will say no. I like it as it is, no need to "damage the units", why anyway they need to be damaged, that's just a terrain tile, a texture. I don't think i wasted my time to make this map better, when i could create 3 maps for the same time. I wanted to create something unique and i think i did it. Hmm, maybe really the posion is a little out of place, but i didn't know what to place there
About the Bridges, i created such ones to be bigger than the standard ones, so there can be more MASSACRES >
EDIT: hmm, maybe i know what to replace the posion with... i will try some variantions...

Also, The Santa Pug (Ken-E ), im happy you like the map
also i noticed that if you put 3v3 and you have chosen the option "Teams together", you and your allies will spawn in the same half of the map i like that.
Hope you enjoy it

And the Mouse1234, i'm happy you would rate the map for 5/5 but it isn't really rated xD

EDIT2: Kk, i updated it, hope this is better... also there was a crazy drop, i fixed that and some other minor things. And, ta da, there is no poison

The 2 passages look quite dumb to be honest, a bridge would really have been better.
Also the problem with the fire/ice effects would be that people usually think it will damage them, when in reality, they're just representing the heat coming from the lava tiles.
It's a terrible choice and adding the feature Kobas said would actually make your melee map a bit more interesting, damaging the units walking on them would be really hectic and intense.
Also the terrain heights are way too random at the starting points, lower/raise them a bit and smoothen them.
Although I do think it looks quite nice and as a template, it would be a pretty cool treat.

Rejected until updated.

It's a terrible choice and adding the feature Kobas said would actually make your melee map a bit more interesting, damaging the units walking on them would be really hectic and intense.

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Hey you both missed point, I said (or wanted) that lava usually damage units, right, so it's terrible idea to use it as base tile without any effect when unit stand on it.

Full Review

Since I was so curious about this map, I gave it a played it already unlike other melee maps. Anyway, its enjoyable for sure! Its concept is very creative if you ask me, I haven't thought of mixing different tiles to come up with an innovative change, the tile setting is superb, it doesn't feel messy at all. The falling dust didn't bother as if it was already said it was set on a cave. Creeps are symmetric, so nobody would worry if the map have different units from both opposing sides. Fortunately, the poison terrain doesn't show up in-game, In short, I really like this map.

Although, the pathing and terraining is somewhat bothersome, overall spaces is very strict and limited, making unit and building management irritating, more irritating when your using Night Elf, since you can't cut on trees until you have research for Glaive Throwers. Also, the trees have some unbuildable doodads such as mushrooms, making it unavailable for building. The pathing feels utterly ridiculous, tight path spacings makes a hectic management, and the crossing between only 2 bridges with all 3 forces feels like marching towards on a predictable straight line, but the Goblin Labs should do the trick for the element of surprise. I would suggest that you make Waygates for both opposing sides making different both offensive and defensive paths alot less linear. Also limit bursting blue/red fire from the ground, it can cause eyesore and unbelievable that units doesn't gets toast for standing there.

"Innovative, but has pathing and terraining issues"
Giving it 3/5 for now, lemme know if this is updated.

Blood Raven I removed your comment that was placed above this one, if you have something to say about other resources or bad moderation come into map moderation forum or admin contact, otherwise you just insult other users work, not staff members.

Now about resource, I explained nicely what is problem, lava tile can't be used as walking ground. There are few suggestions how to fix this, maybe you can create low ground like canyons and place lava/ice there, while keeping normal mud or rock like tiles above where units can walk.