Demon Defence

Moderator · Mar 18, 2012

Date: 2012/May/11 18:52:26

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Poor and lacking terrain: Terrain Tutorial
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DsDarkMaster · Mar 18, 2012

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Edit: if have forgotten to add anyone to the thanks list please tell me and i will add them

MajorKaza · Mar 19, 2012

After the murder of the late human king the new king vowed to remove all chaotic and demonic beasts from the land after a long battle the humans began winning and the demons had no choice but to retreat to their land of chaos from where they came but the humans didn't stop there they followed the demons and hunted the remaining ones that lived.

Please use more comas and dots. And no betas here. If your map is just beta place it there: Map Development
This is my score:

Heroes:10%
Terrain:50%
Icons/Models:20%
Balance:10%
Other:0%
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Total:18%

Not enought heroes! Just 4 types is preaty low when there are 6 players. Make at last 6 heroes before upload. Also there were no tip at the game start. I just didn't know how to pick hero and where he is. Zoom camera in when hame starts. Heroes got not enought skills. 4 skills per hero is minimum. Be sure that skills are made well. I've picked Enhancer and his enhance was made on auras. It should be battle roar to stack buffs into one.

Terrain was made preaty well, but some places looks unfinished. Gates no need to be destroyed or opened. Thats werid. Also there is no place to use money.

Buffs icons not replaced. Good models, but there were no shops so I've seen exacly 8 custom graphics. 4 heroes and their icons. Make shops. By the way: hell archers were called "Footman".

Totaly unbalanced. Towers are no help. Guards dies fast at easy level. No place to use gold. Instant level at first wave even if I didn't go out of citadel. Creeps goes only one way. Gates are useless and spells not stack when there are 4 heroes with 6 players.

There is no bonus rate for others details. Skill tips where bad. There were some unfinished places and general low noumber of objects that I could rate.

DsDarkMaster · Mar 19, 2012

MajorKaza said:
After the murder of the late human king the new king vowed to remove all chaotic and demonic beasts from the land after a long battle the humans began winning and the demons had no choice but to retreat to their land of chaos from where they came but the humans didn't stop there they followed the demons and hunted the remaining ones that lived.

Please use more comas and dots. And no betas here. If your map is just beta

Sorry about that failed English twice not my strong point

Not enought heroes! Just 4 types is preaty low when there are 6 players. Make at last 6 heroes before upload. Also there were no tip at the game start. I just didn't know how to pick hero and where he is. Zoom camera in when hame starts. Heroes got not enought skills. 4 skills per hero is minimum. Be sure that skills are made well. I've picked Enhancer and his enhance was made on auras. It should be battle roar to stack buffs into one.

i have currently 2 more heroes planned just don't have some ability ideas. ill change auras to battle roar forgot about that ability and sorry i missed some ability's off will add them in along with the 2 new heroes in next version

i will also implant a system to view heroes first before you buy so you can see their ability's and stats gains

Terrain was made preaty well, but some places looks unfinished. Gates no need to be destroyed or opened. Thats werid. Also there is no place to use money.

i was planning to add a shop area to the blank space to the left of the castle

Buffs icons not replaced. Good models, but there were no shops so I've seen exacly 8 custom graphics. 4 heroes and their icons. Make shops. By the way: hell archers were called "Footman".

What buff icons where not replace i must of missed them. There is a few items and i will include a shop in next update about the hell archers i thought i removed them but thanks for pointing that out

Totaly unbalanced. Towers are no help. Guards dies fast at easy level. No place to use gold. Instant level at first wave even if I didn't go out of citadel. Creeps goes only one way. Gates are useless and spells not stack when there are 4 heroes with 6 players.

towers where mainly for cosmetic but im going to buff there damage and armour same with the guards i will add more armour and hp. gates will be fixed but are not a priority atm because the map is still playable with them as they are i will also do a total remake of the movement system to make it alot smoother and send them different ways (was a bug causing some not to move)

There is no bonus rate for others details. Skill tips where bad. There were some unfinished places and general low noumber of objects that I could rate.

can i ask which tooltips where the worst and how i can improve them as with the other low number of objects how can i improve

MajorKaza · Mar 20, 2012

Here, you have package of screenshots with comments. If you want to add more objects, give custom skills to attacking units or item drops/shops. Some trees and cages/lesser deamons in citadel could be nice too.

And by the way: one of sorceress spell has no colldown it target dies becouse of it.

DsDarkMaster · Mar 21, 2012

ah thanks for that i do fail at tooltips and the sorceress spell hmmm seems like a bug i thought i remove didnt might have to change the almost insta kill to half hp or somthing

next version will incude fixes and additions here a list
-tooltip fixes
-shop full of items with all included with 3 rareitys
-add the final 4 abilitys that are missing
-2 new heroes
-elemental mage - mage
-Demon Guard - tank
-new healing area
-buffed units
-minimap icon for out of game

zlowly · Mar 22, 2012

The map is already out i'm gonna test it hooray...
Oh yeah i think the category must be survival/defense

DsDarkMaster · Mar 22, 2012

oh i did set the category but when i was just about to submit it lost internet ill fix it up when i release the next version

InfinateAnswers · Mar 22, 2012

Your click to pick selection flaws, i cant click on a hero and look at their spells to find out what they have, or even what type of hero they are. Either set up a neutral shop so where you can click on a hero and look at their spells, where their spells are dummy units blacked out and unable to be clicked but the tooltip read, or click on one, and it gives you information as a game text, and then double click to choose a hero.

DsDarkMaster · Mar 22, 2012

going to fix that soon gona remake the clicking system

CroMoX · Apr 18, 2012

I've noticed there are a lot of merits to the game, like the look of Area Effect spells, characters, and the style of it is all good. Like before the only problem is the Language used, should be reviewed over, because a lot of people want to read what things do (Eg Spells, heroes), and also I find like I told you before the movement speed to get where you want in the game, is slow for the size of the map.

I know you added in the teleportation device to get to the start quickly, but I still find that my movement speed for characters is to slow.

Overall I have to say the game has REAL potential, but still needs work. The game looks fantastic, and the character ideas/spells are unique, but English and Selections for heroes like above do need a touch up.

Hope this helped!

DsDarkMaster · Apr 18, 2012

yea im currently reworking the selection system taking longer than i hoped but once its finished it should be a much better improvement

Vengeancekael · May 11, 2012

Add the credits to the hive description.
Add an ultimate for the hero
The terrain is waaaaaaaay too empty and big.
Pan the camera to the hero's location
What are the gates good for when you can just go through them?
Too generic
No lobby map description
More info should be added in the quest log

Names	Icons	Type	Background	Tips
Demon Knight		DPS/Tank mix	The Demon Knight is a long forgotten demon who was said to be lost in battle against the humans no words leave his lips as he is a silent killer	When Playing as the Demon Knight try and stay close to the Demon Enhancer
Demon Slasher		DPS	Having survived many battles the Demon Slasher is known by many demons there are alot of rumors about him	when playing as the Demon Slasher stay close to the Demon Knight the Slasher may be able to kill humans fast but he can quickly become out numberd
Demon Enhancer		Supporter	The Demon Enhancer has very rarely seen battle preferring to stay behind the seance not much is knowen about him	Make sure the Demon Enhancer's mana is always stocked
Blood Hound		Summoner	The Blood Hound often found in a pack however it is much stronger than normal blood hounds because the demon king has given power to	staying in a group helps the blood hound

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