04:20, 27th Dec 2009
ap0calypse: Approved

Hmm sad to hear that. Though thanks for the quick drop by. I decided to post the project here since the thread in thelper.net does not get replies anymore.

The map preview looks freaking awesome! Just because of that, I'm downloading and testing. Comment soon. By the way, can you open this map in the World Editor? When you update it, if it is protected tell us.

Well, the preview is just made to attract downloaders hehe
This map is widgetized and protected.
Hope you enjoy it, thanks for downloading.

After playing Demise of Atlantis for one whole hour, I gotta say it is really unique. Well some parts were unique, some parts were similar. I love that ability system! Can you show me the system you used? Also, there were many hereos to choose from, which was good. What I don't understand is why the Mur'guls periodically attack the Orb of Atlantis. You can also make the map a bit bigger, with more shops and territories. RPG-ify it, but also maintain its Arenaness. Overall, a pretty good map. 4/5 and thumbs up.

Well, first play through I did was pretty good. the spells are pretty unique but a few of them seem a little unbalanced(Ones I mainly saw was the unstable nebula, holy light spell or w/e it is, and also the starfall, it does a little too much dmg.)

I also hope there are a little more spells, items and diferent rounds coming? After alittle while it just repeats the same units without any buff to them at all.

FhelZone said:

Well, the preview is just made to attract downloaders hehe

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That's exactly what the Preview's job...

Nice map.I suggest you adding a bouncing ability (i don't think i saw it anywhere and sorry if you have it already).
If you choose multy shot , after the first use you can't disable it, you see the buff on hero's buff tray but when you disable the buff dissapears but you can attack like if you have multy shot on.At the description you say it's like X hero siege, then when you destroy the towers and the spanwing building (which is invulnerable all the time) you could reach the next lvl of creeps but how is this possible when it's permament invulnerable?.
Also the repeating wave sucks

Bouncing ability? This is Warcraft 3 not basketball!

GhostThruster said:

Bouncing ability? This is Warcraft 3 not basketball!

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Well, yes, this could be WarCraft 3, but you can create a Bouncing Ability using triggers.

"Not all bouncing are balls" that's all i want to say, TY...

@Ghost
Well I've been working on the extra parts of the map, incase the player is bored of protecting the orb. There would be some quest that work perk you up with items and even bonus attributes. The project is still in the early stage so I can't really easily add systems since there are still many testings yet to be done, and I don't have much feedback yet from the players.

@Demon
The progress on spells is actually very poor since I use GUI hahaha and I don't have the will to switch to newgen yet. But someone was already offering to vJASS the spells, but I refused since I am planning to catch up another project. Some spells are still imbalanced since there are not much people to send some feedback. I have an on queue changes to the holy light. The nebula actually is made as is it since it has a lot of disadvantages built with it. For the starfall, I am actually going to nerf the blinding buff but the damage and the AOE stays. Starfall is made to deal more damage to make the int heroes capable of fighting agi and str heroes.

@Falke
Well, this is in an early stage so I don't have plans yet for the destruction of the spawning pools. I am still focusing on filling up the spells and recipes plus the incoming dungeon system. The wave keeps on repeating since the winning condition is actually planned to be installed in the new island which is still being planned. And what's more is that the waves are not yet enough so I am still making more wave units. I am planning on a stat based chain lightning though maybe I would try to learn some chain GUI spellmaking first hehehe.... Though I could try to implement the glaive bounce, though it would take a long time since I have no shortcut on making these things.

Thanks for downloading playing and for the feedbacks everyone. I really appreciate your efforts.

GhostThruster said:

Bouncing ability? This is Warcraft 3 not basketball!

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New on Warcraft? Guess so ... wanna see some examples of bouncing abilities?
The Huntress , elfs' second unit has a bouncing ability called MOON GLAIVE.
Luna from DotA (uses the same model as the hunterss) has a bouncing ability which can bounce up to 5 targets

Can't recall anything else.

So next time try not to say anything that doesn't excists

Also everything is possible with World Editor all you need is practice and imagination.

Looks nice. Anyway I would have to say that unless there is a full house, the aves will be undefeatable at some point. My rating would be 4/5.But it is close to Christmas so I will give it a 5/5 and vote for approval.

Thanks for the ratings, about the glaive, I'm still thinking if it is necessary to implement it. I've already started with the dungeons and I can't work much on the skills yet. I'll keep my focus on recipes and the dungeons first. And by the way thanks for the ratings +rep to you too

Oh, you mean bouncing attacks! (Well attack, ability same thing). Sorry, I thought you ment like an ability that makes the hero jump up and down.

hahahaha...... me too, at first that i read the post, i thought it is "jump" but when i figure it out what he's saying, i knew that he was saying "bounce" not "jump/leap"

my 135th post!!!!

Well I can't really add such skills like blink, leap and tings like that since I would like to fully control the location of the heroes. I've just recently added Reincarnation and a custom made Avatar any other more ideas for skills and items please post it here.

Changelog

Version 1.4

Skills
- changed Starfall blind to miss 30 percent in every level
- increased Starfall cooldown to 12 seconds
- increased range of Tidal Crush from 350 to 400
- Tidal Crush and Starfall does not create effects on spell immune units anymore
- fixed mana burst tooltip
- fixed shadow meld's evade rate
- removed HP bonus from Desperado
- Holy Light does not deal damage anymore, instead it removes negative buffs
- increased amount of HP healed by Holy Light
- increased damage ratio of mana break to 75 percent of the combusted mana
- fixed lag caused by Angel's Edge
- reduced Angel's Edge from 20 seconds to 15 seconds
- Angel's Edge cooldown reduced to 70 seconds from 75 seconds
- Angel's Edge now dispels when the hero dies
- reduced Mana Burst cooldown to 75 seconds from 80 seconds
- reduced Heaven's Drive cooldown to 65 seconds from 85 seconds
- Frost Nova shatter does not appear from spell immune units anymore
- Added special effect to Cleaving Attack
- increased damage dealt by frost nova from 5/10/15/20/25 to 7/14/21/28/35 percent
- increased frost nova shatter damage from 5/15/25/35/45 to 10/20/30/40/50
- split shot deactivation hotkey now works
- fixed Bio Alchemy icon positioning
- added Reincarnation ultimate
- removed Dispersion due to some performance issues
- changed Inner Rage manacost from 150 to 150/170/190/210/230
- added mana cost to Blood Thirst 120/150/180/210/240
- changed all ultimate's hotkey to Q
- fixed God's Strength tooltip
- added Avatar ultimate
- reduced frost nova casting range from 450 to 425
- added Sticky Web skill
- moved Vampiric Aura to Altar of Kings
- added Enhance Focus skill

Items
- removed cleave special effect from Deathbringer
- Nible Boots can now be clicked to activate sprint
- added item ownership system
- transfered Barbaric Helm to Initiation
- transfered Nimble Boots helm to Initiation
- remade Shaman's Necklace
- fixed Vitality Booster's bonus HP
- added Protective Greaves
- added Radiance item
- added Horn of Stormwind item
- added Staff of Purification item
- increased Vile of Mellowberry Juice HP bonus to 5

Heroes
- fixed Troll Warlord's icon positioning
- increased Bane Elemental's scaling

Gameplay
- increased score gain to easily rank up
- fixed negative buffs to have a red tooltip
- entering the arena now removes the shared vision with your teammates in it
- removed the sound from Taverns
- fixed an issue on taverns for not showing up the 12th hero on the list
- implemented dungeon system
- added 3 waves

You should make the waves infinite, or end the game after 40 or so waves, like in another map. A way to make the waves become more powerful infinitely is using triggers to increase the max life of creeps. Just suggestions, and please don't add a leap ability.

Well the wave actually has an end. Though I'm still working on the new systems causing the progress on unit waves to slow down. There will be no such skills as leap, blink etc.

This is stunning and i love the Minimap Preview lawl

Thanks...

Tolja the preview was awesome.

Needed to fix some codes concerning the dungeon.

Version 1.4b

Skills
- reduced Mana Burst AOE from 350 to 300
- fixed Healing Wave for having a goldcost
- changed Smoke Screen duration from 5 seconds to 4/5/6/7/8

Items
- added Hyper Stone item (Lost Relics)
- added Quarterstaff item (Orb of Atlantis)
- added Heart of Tarasque (Protectorate)
- fixed Horm of Stormwind tooltip
- fixed Assassin's Cloak tooltip
- fixed Barbaric Helm recipe tooltip

Heroes
- added Fate (Character) type hero
- lowered rank requirements of Character type heroes to Novice Rank
- lowered rank requirements of Titan type heroes to Scout Rank

Gameplay
- added 4 waves
- Arena, Dungeon and Stash can now be used when wave 1 spawns
- fixed Dungeon for not working properly

wow, no reply recently, just a little more downloads and it reaches a thousand.

I've enjoyed the map, but like to see more items. I haven't tested enough skills to give any inputs but I do like the stats depended spells.

Btw, are there tomes in this map? and how do I upgrade an item?

thnx

Recipes are such a pain in the neck for me considering there are only few items (24 to be exact). I'm working on more items don't worry I won't quit until I fill in the whole recipe shops. And I am also planning to create advanced recipes which will need high class recipes to create another recipe item. Some items are upgradeable, just buy their recipes again. Anyway for the changelog.

BTW: Welcome to the hive, I really appreciate that you've shown your support to my map by registering and posting your first post here :thumbsup:

Version 1.5

Skills
- fixed Reincarnation level skip requirements
- reduced frost nova damage from 7/14/21/28/35 to 6/12/18/24/30 percent of the remaining mana
- added Brilliance Aura
- reduced Angel's Edge mana cost from 200/250/300/350/400 to 200/225/250/275/300
- added Essence Aura
- fixed Bio Alchemy for not dealing bonus damage from the hero's int

Heroes
- fixed tooltip for Fate indicating her main attribute as strength
- replaced royal knight and black knight with lycantrophe and lifestealer
- added skeleton king
- added phantom lancer
- added enigma
- added morphed alchemist
- added morphed tinker
- added Juggernaught
- added Lord of Olympia
- added Morphed Soul Keeper
- added morphed Axe

Items
- added mana stone (Initiation)
- added arcane jewel (Supportive)
- added force sphere (Supportive)
- added spirit glass (Supportive)
- fixed enchanted shield cooldown display
- added Mask of Soul Scream (Supportive)
- added Wind Whisperer (Protective)

Waves
- nerfed centraur khan's greater bash

Gameplay
- added 1 second cooldown to quests in the dungeon
- fixed units getting trapped in a lane when a player quits
- added 1 quest for Lucius the Overseer
- added 1 wave
- added loading screen

Blood Thirst is bugged, if you cast it once then the liefsteal efects stays for ever (don't know what happens if you die) but you loose the bonus dmg.
Also add a -random for a random hero model.

I died and while i was dead the Orb of Atlantis was destroyed but i revived normally but creeps were unable to attack me, the next wave spawned but it was standing at the starting point doing nothing.

Also the ''Dead?'' is supposed to be the revive timer(i think) but is shows nothing.
Same goes for the ''Next wave in:''
Finally the -save doesn't seem to work , or i have to save before i loose?


Editoes Blood Thirst works with orbs? I mean is it an orb effect?

Just tested blood thirst and it works perfectly fine since it is just based off vapiric potion. Maybe you are pertaining to Vampiric Rage which gives you non orb effect lifesteal and can be activated to increase lifesteal rate and have a bonus damage.

Then i know what caused it, while i had the effect of Blood Thirst i used a couple of the starting potions, maybe this one caused it.

The map look great and have a lot of skills, items and visual effects. Overall 4/5 but because of the fact the map is lagging to much when a wave is spawned i will vote 1/5. I play 5 minutes and i was thinking this is just a lag in the beginning but the lag continue so i was unable to control my hero and this ruin the whole game. If you optimize your triggers i may give another rating until then 1/5. Sorry but this game is unplayable on computer pentium 4 3ghz 512 ram and 126mb video

Dude, you judged the WHOLE map from the first 5 minutes? To hell with the lag! Who cares if it is as slow as a paraplegic stoned turtle when the game itself is good? And 1/5? That's a bit harsh. Maybe next time you could consider that you have a **** computer.

Btw, would you kindly tell me the source of ur "imported" models, they were quite cool and i would like to use them in my map

Many thanks

On a side note
I have to say, your map was good, the gameplay was alright, however, the
2nd/ 3rd "quests" however do not seem to work

I like it Customize heroes abilities + hero defence = very intersting. Items looks like great too but which is the highest rank?

The potions are merely item healing with some additional HP when you use it. I tested it again and it seems to be fine, are you sure that you are not seeing the default aura for the Vampiric Rage?

1/5? Well if that is your rating. I couldn't blame myself if there is something wrong with your computer, considering my computer is just a 512MB RAM and Pentium 4, works for me fine.

Thanks for the suppoort GhostThruster, but I don't think I could make any update soon, my computer is busted and I didn't make a backup for the latest changes that I've made.

@Strangeone, thanks for playing, the imports were taken from different site, some here at the hive and some at the resource area of theheleper.net some would be found at the wc3c.net website. Some were taken from a russian site though I can't really remember the site since I only bookmarked it on the other computer.

@Aquarius, thanks for playing, the highestrank would be the Archon rank for players and Demigod for VIPs.

You could download your map and unprotect it using some software, and then work on it.

I would have more chance to DL this if it had SC's...till then, not going to bother