cJass (AdicHelper) 1.4.1.5

Moderator · Oct 2, 2009

12:40, 5th Oct 2009
PurplePoot: I'll assume you're authorized to post this. Approved. 4/5, as I find some of the facilities (like ++/--) poorly implemented, and it isn't exactly revolutionary anyways.

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Note that this does not imply it will be allowed for JASS submissions and stuff.

Dark_Dragon · Oct 2, 2009

awesome work +rep!

Nestharus · Oct 2, 2009

+rep ^_^

Mooglefrooglian · Oct 6, 2009

Just an amazing tool.

And really Poot.. ++ is poorly implemented? As opposed to what?

Yixx · Oct 6, 2009

Mooglefrooglian, i have had that discussion with PurplePoot, and I can tell you what is poorly done.

JASS:

int x = 3;
int y = (++x)+(++x);

This should, if thought of well, result in 9. But the thing is, that it first does the ++x twice, making it 5, and then adds them to each other. Meaning that it will result in 10, instead of 9.
Or at least that is what PurplePoot said.

EvilStalker · Oct 6, 2009

Yixx, yes, it is so. I've also had a long discussion with PurplePoot at wc3c. And I've already provided my point of view: such cases are very-very rare. In fact, you don't see incrementing the same variable in on statement twice every now and then.

PurplePoot · Oct 6, 2009

EvilStalker said:
Yixx, yes, it is so. I've also had a long discussion with PurpleRoot at wc3c. And I've already provided my point of view: such cases are very-very rare. In fact, you don't see incrementing the same variable in on statement twice every now and then.

I would probably do such things if they actually worked. Your statement is circular as its justification is based on a consequence of its existence.

Mooglefrooglian · Oct 6, 2009

Yixx said:
Mooglefrooglian, i have had that discussion with PurplePoot, and I can tell you what is poorly done.

JASS:

int x = 3; int y = (++x)+(++x);

This should, if thought of well, result in 9. But the thing is, that it first does the ++x twice, making it 5, and then adds them to each other. Meaning that it will result in 10, instead of 9.
Or at least that is what PurplePoot said.

Well, that would be a bug that should be fixed then.

I agree with VD however - I rarely if ever increment the SAME variable twice on a line (use += 2 much?).

I hope we can get some things like Timer Utils hooking CreateTimer() and returning a reusable timer (and making DestroyTimer() release it).

I know I already am in my timer pool struct

PurplePoot · Oct 6, 2009

It's something that is uncommon to do most of the time (that was an example rather than an actual practical statement, although it shouldn't be anywhere near equivalent to +=2), but in principle it's stupid to have it poorly implemented.

Element of Water · Oct 7, 2009

If this is approved, can we now submit pure cJass resources?

EDIT:
About the actual thing - I hate the way it removes all the indentation and unnecessary gaps and everything before running JassHelper. If you get a JassHelper error it's really hard to tell what it is when I can't even read the code your thing generates.

PS: Yes, I have AdicOptimizer tunred off, and yes, it still removes all the indentation.

Dark_Dragon · Oct 7, 2009

Element of Water said:
If this is approved, can we now submit pure cJass resources?

EDIT:
About the actual thing - I hate the way it removes all the indentation and unnecessary gaps and everything before running JassHelper. If you get a JassHelper error it's really hard to tell what it is when I can't even read the code your thing generates.

PS: Yes, I have AdicOptimizer tunred off, and yes, it still removes all the indentation.

adichelper tries to remove all spaces and tabs by default, optimizer does more stuff but ADOLF said he will improve it even more...

Element of Water · Oct 7, 2009

Yeah, well it shouldn't remove spaces and tabs. AdicOptimizer should do that...

Dark_Dragon · Oct 7, 2009

Element of Water said:
Yeah, well it shouldn't remove spaces and tabs. AdicOptimizer should do that...

well yeah ur right, but i think that if that is done before optimizer then overall cJass compile time would be faster. but maybe ADOLF should add in cJass menu smth like "fast compile" option...

Nestharus · Oct 8, 2009

First-

JASS:

int x = 3;
int y = (++x)+(++x);

If you want that to display 9 instead of 10...

JASS:

int x = 3;
int y = ++x+x+++1;

I think that it works as intended and is perfectly fine. That to me is not a bug, it's just an error on the user's part. I have never seen a language that displays 9 on ++x+++x

a discussion as to the use of cjass

EvilStalker · Oct 8, 2009

Nestharus: you just don't understand the argument =) PurplePoot is right from his point of view.

EDIT: Java will display 9 in such case.

Reaper2008 · Oct 8, 2009

So will C\C++. But this is a preprocessor, not an actual language.

EvilStalker · Oct 8, 2009

So will C\C++

Try it? C/C++ will display 10

Mooglefrooglian · Oct 8, 2009

I disagree with it removing any white space. It makes errors that much harder to read, and WC3 Map Optimizer does it on it's own.

Also, EoW,

PurplePoot said:
Note that this does not imply it will be allowed for JASS submissions and stuff.

I person will be submitting resources in it if I ever get the urge to. They can dump them if they want, but NOTHING about vJass besides its popularity seems like any reason it should be allowed and cJass not.

People got vJass because people found libraries and such a better way to distribute chunks of code and such, and so said "Oh, hey, wanna use this? Use JNGP!"

People SHOULD be getting and using cJass because it cuts down on writing time and a define itself is a great tool. cJass is also compatible with JNGP, and installs right into it. It took me personally less than a minute to install.

Not accepting submissions in cJass is rather stupid.

Tassadaritze · Oct 12, 2009

Lol there's virus in this file!

EvilStalker · Oct 12, 2009

lol, of course not!

Some paranoid antiviral software may think that updater is a virus because it uses system's DownloadFile API

EvilStalker · Oct 15, 2009

Updated to 1.4.1.5 (really had to do that a week ago ^^)

sieved_19 · Nov 5, 2009

Very Nice +rep (^_^)

Moon_assailant · Nov 21, 2009

the setup program asks to put in the filepath of my JNGP's folder. idk where that is located, can someone plz help me.

syltman · Nov 28, 2009

Moon_assailant said:
the setup program asks to put in the filepath of my JNGP's folder. idk where that is located, can someone plz help me.

you should know where it is. Have you even installed it?

edit: I think that the command for importing files should be insteed of include it should be //! include

NOSAKIAS · Dec 5, 2009

What is is with the upside cross!?
There is one thing in this world I can't stand of, antichrists.
I'd rather kill any human that antichrist rather tell him about God.
Stop these shit symbol usages.

Vercas · Dec 10, 2009

cJass is my favorite programming language, but ZINC has an interesting feature, anonymous functions.
Do you think you could add that feature, too?

thelifelessone · Dec 11, 2009

What's the point on Anonymous functions, really?
And I don't like the "->" that Zinc uses.

dachi15 · Dec 11, 2009

hey i cannot download it :|

Vercas · Dec 11, 2009

Yeah, that operator is shit, but those anonymous functions can be handy when you make simple condition functions like checking the ability being cast, or making a filterfunc return true...

maskedpoptart · Dec 12, 2009

This looks pretty sweet. I will use it if it becomes accepted for JASS submissions. I have no problems with the ++/-- operators, but you should definitely implement some form of anonymous functions, since creating separate filter functions and callback functions is just a pain in the ass (i.e. ForGroup(g, { KillUnit(GetEnumUnit()) } ) ).

syltman · Dec 12, 2009

The include messes up my other imports

Xarwin · Dec 22, 2009

Code:

___________________________________________________________

BullGuard Scan Report
Scan Profile: "~10"
___________________________________________________________


----[  System Info  ]------------

OS Version:	Windows Vista Home Premium - Service Pack 1 (Build 6001) [2 * x86 CPUs] 
Physical memory:	2048 MB
System up-time:	0 days, 03 hours, 21 minutes, 02 seconds
BullGuard up-time:	0 days, 03 hours, 20 minutes, 01 seconds
TopLayer Version:	8, 7, 1, 17
FileSpy5 Version:	N/A
BdFileSpy Version:	3.14.0.64 built by: WinDDK
BsFileScan Version:	8, 5, 0, 71
Reconn Version:	N/A
MailProxy Version:	8, 5, 0, 21
AntiVirus Version:	8, 7, 0, 50

----[  Scan Parameters  ]------------

Folders to scan:
    None

Excluded folders:
    None

Files to scan:
    C:\Users\gebruiker\Desktop\cJassSetup.exe

Scan type:
    [o] Scan all files
    [ ] Scan program files only
    [ ] Scan custom extensions: 

    [ ] Exclude user extensions: 

    [ ] Scan boot sectors
    [X] Scan packed files
    [X] Scan archives
    [X] Scan emails
    [ ] Scan running processes
    [ ] Scan registry
    [ ] Scan IE cookies
    [X] Enable heuristic detection

    [ ] Scan default action
___________________________________________________________

Scan Statistics
___________________________________________________________

Scan started:	Tuesday, December 22, 2009 23:27:56
Scan duration:	0 days, 00 hours, 00 minutes, 02 seconds
Completion status:	Successful

Total files scanned:	44
Total files skipped:	0
Identified viruses:	1
Scan speed:	22.00 files/sec

___________________________________________________________

Infected Files
___________________________________________________________

----[  Infected Files  ]------------

Malware:	Trojan.Generic.2643557
    C:\Users\gebruiker\Desktop\cJassSetup.exe=>(NSIS o)=>lzma_solid_nsis0008

___________________________________________________________

Results after ROUND 0
___________________________________________________________

Scan started:	Tuesday, December 22, 2009 23:27:54
Scan duration:	0 days, 00 hours, 00 minutes, 02 seconds
Infections solved:	0
Infections left:	1
Viruses left:	1

----[  Files Still Infected  ]------------

Malware:	Trojan.Generic.2643557
    C:\Users\gebruiker\Desktop\cJassSetup.exe=>(NSIS o)=>lzma_solid_nsis0008

--> http://www.pctools.com/mrc/infections/id/Trojan.Generic/

Nothing more to say.

Vercas · Dec 23, 2009

He said that again and again, it's the updater and your paranoid antivirus!

syltman · Dec 23, 2009

vercas said:
He said that again and again, it's the updater and your paranoid antivirus!

this man has alot of truth in his words

Xarwin · Dec 23, 2009

For me its just obvious that there are a lot of tools *WITHOUT* any detection of a virus or malware. In fact, my theory is that tools can be made without any virus detection, no?

Vercas · Dec 24, 2009

Yes but this updater makes it get detected as a virus.
In my opinion, the updater is a very important piece of the program.

Cihparg · Dec 24, 2009

Unfortunately, My anti-virus also notices this as an virus.

Xarwin · Dec 24, 2009

vercas said:
Yes but this updater makes it get detected as a virus.
In my opinion, the updater is a very important piece of the program.

I'm pretty sure it will be important, however, I repeat myself again: everything can be made without any virus.

Overall, I don't think this would be good for hive's reputation if people their scanner detect a virus.
For example, a guest visits the website and downloads the tool.
Virus-scanner pops up : VIRUS FOUND.
I'm pretty sure that they instantly delete it and will have doubts about the hive.
That's my point.

Vercas · Dec 24, 2009

It's his decision to use that thing to download updates.
It is found as an virus because it can download ANY content, including other viruses.
But this application doesn't do that.

Xarwin · Dec 24, 2009

You don't seem to get my point.
But w/e.
I guess I'll have a talk about this somewhere else.

Vercas · Dec 24, 2009

Oh, you don't get the point.
This tool will do no harm to your computer!

Mooglefrooglian · Dec 24, 2009

My Sophos antivirus detects nothing wrong with it, nor has it caused any problems.

Vercas · Dec 24, 2009

Just as simple as that.

g4l4xyz · Dec 25, 2009

Great Tools! That solve my problems ^^

Vercas · Jan 9, 2010

Now I need to use both, cJass and method operators.
Every time I use a method operator, I get errors.
Even with vJass syntax.

Dark_Dragon · Jan 24, 2010

vercas said:
Now I need to use both, cJass and method operators.
Every time I use a method operator, I get errors.
Even with vJass syntax.

i am not sure, i am working on campaign and i use operators a lot... maybe u write wrong syntax... else i dont know why it would not compile.

JASS:

nothing operator value= (integer val) { this.val = val }

Vercas · Jan 25, 2010

" [] " and " []= " didin't seem to work...
Now they DO work!

Miss_Foxy · Feb 25, 2010

What's the difference between cJASS, vJASS and GUI guys...? Sorry I had to post here, but I'm really really confused at the moment of what this tool does...

PS: Erm... Is this the same as JASSCraft (And where can I get it?)?

Vercas · Feb 25, 2010

GUI is the basic trigger interface you have in the triggers editor.
Jass is the programming language of the warcraft engine. For a map to run the triggers, they are converted to Jass when you save the map. You can also convert GUI triggers to Jass using the following way: Select your trigger, click the Edit tab and select Convert to Custom Text.
vJass is a magical extension to Jass. It allows much more things like structs and textmacros. (there are a lot more!)
cJass is a wonderful extension to vJass. This has a C-like syntax and introduces the Defines which can have arguments and can be overloaded!

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