Date: 18:32:28 30-Oct-11
Map Moderator: -Kobas-
Map Status: Approved 3/5
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For the screenshots it would be really nice to have a map overview.
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hmm Innocative layout.. I like it, downloading

Any Review please...

Review:
The Good:
(+) Great X middle design
(+) Healthy neutral grounds with rewarding neutral buildings for access
(+) Great balanced Tavern locations
(+) Overall balanced gameplay
(+) Enough gold mines for resources
(+) Fun to play, of course

The Bad:
(-) While the X design was great and innovative however it made the map inflexible
and stressful on managing structures
(-) Hilltop mines in left, right, up and down are too high and over exaggerated
(-) The mud golems are facing at the ogre himself and may look a little odd
(-) You'll run out of lumbers very fast unless you're playing Night Elf, the tree formation may also look like they're lined up and doesn't look too good
(-) Red Dragons in the middle seems to be very ignorable, don't know why
(-) The Dragons in the corner gold mines are annoying, they should've been land units
(-) Both you and I suffers from the same problem. Our melee maps really needs more doodads

My Score: 3.5/5
The hilltop gold mines are the biggest flaws, but to sum it up its a fine and a darn good map.

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(Oct. 30, 2011) Edited Comment to my review:
Just checked and played the map once again, sorry for the long delay for feedback and all. Anyway, the map really improved and was even further polished than the last time. There are more abundant trees to be gathered and a lot doodads were implemented around the map. However, the same creep position problem may get in your way, the Ogre's at the Goblin Merchant are facing backwars, the early Mud Golems and Ogre creeps are faced at the wrong direction. Also, the flexibility issue is still there but I don't think you would fix that anytime soon, 'coz your going to recreate the entire terrain so I don't really blame you for that. The over exaggerated hills were also fixed, so it actually feels natural, while some ramps along the mountain may have some uneven ground spiked and may not look pretty. So for now, may rating remains the same.

My Score: 3.5/5
Lemme know once this map is updated once again, Imma gonna check it out

vm me after reading this review

Thanks for all the reviews...

Map terrain is really bad, tiles are random, no doodads, no nothing, just cliff, tree, grass...
Still there is hope for this map, if I can say that way, you have room to add (I say this because you usually make smaller maps ) all kind of crazy shitz into it

Start with rocks, then add rock tile around them, add some shrubs, rise some over rocks, add logs, add mushrooms near them, add birds, bandit camp, change those dragons and ogres, make some story based map, you just place random cool looking units with powerful stats andeven more powerful item drops.

I won't bother you more, I will check your other maps in time so you can work on them as well, for now:
Status: Rejected

Updated yet?

He contacted me few days ago, but I was busy with school. Sorry.
Now about map.

I can't agree with approval once again. Here, this time I posted few images, won't explain them, errors are really simple. Still you are free to ask.

enough said.

So if you're not going to update this, then we can re-reject it.

nah leave it here for next few days.

I see the errors now. Fixing it. Updating the map on saturday.

Edit
Map has already been updated. Fixed the terrains, added doodads and deleted the rock golem. Also fixed some item drop issues.

Calculate shadows again. Shadows look horrible.
Fix ramps please, use grass tile near cliffs, and use rise lower tool to fix sharpness.

fun shadow


fix with file->save calculating shadows


Black spaces on corners of ramps



End of the world effect


probably really hard to fix and isn't much of a big deal, but I personally think a map looks much better if there is no playable areas that are connected to the beautiful out of bounds wall.

Only complaints I have are the various border encounters, especially the ones where you attempted to make steep natural cliffs, without an updated miscdata.txt, other then that minor detail I believe it is an acceptable melee map.

on this page near the end of your description, it says:

"All models and doodads herein are from Blizzard Intertainment."

two typos in one sentence =P

only typo I see is Intertainment.

if you are referring to herein as needing to be here in, herein is a proper english word meaning in this--usually referring to a book.

or maybe you saw something else idk ;p

Looks great!

Thanks for the comments.

It's nice and all but the Ogre expansion sites could use more terrain+/-doodad love.