WolfFarkas said:

map is much better,


another friendly hint: tavern/s , many players use the neutral heroes like the alchemist, tinker, firelord, .... you have more space now to add tavern/s.

(all TFT ladder melee maps have tavern/s)

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Nudl9 said:

-Obelisks look cool, you should repeat that theme with more variations.
-Volcanoes look out of place, keep things abyssy.
-Very chokey map, chop some trees, make paths more wide.
-Tree path to base might be better with just rock debris.
-Waygates are not very popular for a reason, clunky to play with, wouldn't recommend using them.
-Goldmine creeps should have aggressive aggro.
-Expansion too hard to creep.
-Flying unit only shop camp isn't creepable by a majority of races unless they get anti-air. Neutral buildings should always have 100% ground.

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Mr.Henci said:

Just my quick two cents:

- The map looks nice with enough tile variation, but lacks in a height department. Try using raise/lower tool to make it feel more natural.
- The idea with 2 bridges + waygate is nice, but I would advice to use some unbuildable terrain near the bridges. Both of them can be blocked with few buildings and waygate pathing is rather a gimmicky not liked by the community.
- Try to use more lower level creeps, rather than fewer stronger ones. (GobMarket creep camp is 8 + 5 lvl atm but using 5 + 3 +3 +2 would be more balanced imo)
- Offering players only GobMarket is of course an option, but some players love mercs while others prefer to see shreders and/or zeppelins. Consider adding MercCamp and/or GobLab to your map.
- Some corridors feel too narrow which can put melee armies in disadvatage.

It's a nice map with few fixable problems. Exoanding on your current skills might bring W3 community some nice melee maps in the future.

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mafe said:

Quite a good map. Still I dont want to approve it yet, as there are some issues which could be fixed in a short amount of time however.

First some general notes:
-Despite the unusual tileset, the basics are solid.
-In many parts the map is rather linear (i.e. you can only go forward or backwards, but not sideways). Imho this can lead to static gameplay.
-Related to this: Large amount of unpathable terrain, for no real reason (from a gameplay perspective, but I can understand why that it emulates the true outland feeling).
-Interesting idea with the small wall of trees opening another path towards the main base. I'm normally not a fan of this, but I like how it is implemented here. But just on default exit to the main base can mean you can easily be trapped.

Now for the small, but imho important issues where the map could be improved without much work:
-At the orange spots, item generally are too strong in relation to the strength of the creepcamp. For example, a lvl 3 item shoud drop from creepcamps of lvl around 14-16. A lvl 20 spot normally drops a lvl 4/5 item and a lvl 2 powerup, whereas at the expansions on your map it is 5+3+2. Consider making some changes here.
-The natural expansions are guarded by very strong/annoying creep (mana burn + double cleave). This makes fastexpaning hard-to-impossible for hu, which could be a balance problem.
-The creeps at the shops might accidentially attack player units.

It would be great if you could adress these one or several of these 3 issues. Therefore I'll set the map to Awaiting update. If you say you dont want to make any further updates, please contact me and I might approve the map nevertheless.

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