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BTNPhoenix15

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Okay, I tried making something other than a sword. I kinda liked the result when I was done but when I downsized it for WC III and added image borders (damn borders!), I think it got alot worse since you can't see any details. :(
And also, I didn't add any shadow because it's a bird made of fire. Should I add shadows anyway?

Update: Ok I added some purple. Better? :) I really dunno how a "typical phoenix" looks like but I tried to use the one from WC III editor as a template and work from there.

Update: Added more colour and shadows.

Update: More shadows and new background (probably temporary).

Update: Made it look more fiery.

Update: Made it look more agressive (or powerful) like Dentothor mentioned.

Keywords:
phoenix, fire, flame
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BTNPhoenix15 (Icon)

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10:30, 25th Jun 2009 zombie2279: Quite good, actually. The beak looks weird and pixelated. You'll have to fix that and somehow detail it a bit more. The shading of the rest is quite okay, but some more fire-ish effects on the bird would do well...

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zombie2279: Quite good, actually. The beak looks weird and pixelated. You'll have to fix that and somehow detail it a bit more. The shading of the rest is quite okay, but some more fire-ish effects on the bird would do well.

13:15, 7th Jul 2009
zombie2279: I was hoping for more improvements, but it's approvable nevertheless.
 
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WC3 Phoenix should have purple/red/orange/yellow colors. Try to add all of these.

I made it more purple. I have also a version with shadows and a version with shadows and more colours but the one with more colours looks like the phoenix's been tattooed. I think it looked better with shadow but it seems pretty stupid that a bird of fire would have any... Meh.
Which version should I put here? This, Shadows or More Colours?

Edit: I'm gonna change to the Shadow version cause it's the 1 I like best.
Edit: No wait I'm gonna change the extra colour version and upload that 1.
 
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I likey. Here are my suggestions.
  • Dodge the upper beak around
  • Burn the lower beak
  • Smudge the color lines on the pheonix
  • Take a small brush with an opacity of about 50% and make little acute angles on the pheonix to make it look like plumage

I like the take on this, but it could be a lot better.
2.2/5 for now, with potential for far higher.
 
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I likey. Here are my suggestions.
  • Dodge the upper beak around
  • Burn the lower beak
  • Smudge the color lines on the pheonix
  • Take a small brush with an opacity of about 50% and make little acute angles on the pheonix to make it look like plumage

I like the take on this, but it could be a lot better.
2.2/5 for now, with potential for far higher.

I don't understand much of what you just said. :)
What is acute and plumage?
And dodge the upper beak around. Just way which way the light comes from and I'll try my best.

Edit: And also, how should I smudge? I used smudge in the first place to make the shapes of the colours on the body.

Ok So I finally got how to add attachments. Here's the progress so far. Was 5 a step in the right or wrong direction? I really want to make a good icon! :D

Edit: What I basically did was to do the steps I understood. I smudged the colours to make them flow more along the body instead of being small dots. I burned the lower beak and dodged the upper one.

Edit: I looked up the word plumage and I think that will be very hard for me to do but I'll give it my best shot.

Edit: The plumage is almost invisible when you zoom out... And I don't like the looks of it either. :S I don't really know how I'm going to do this... And I should probably add more detail to the fire.

Edit: Any suggestions on background? I kinda dislike the one that's there right now but one of the hardest things for me is to decide the background.
 
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Wow. Sooo much better.
Jumped from a 2.2 to a 3.8.

But could you make his beak shine and have a bit more shading? :p

I was away. I'll get to it and do what I can.

Edit: Ok I made it darker. Please tell me if it needs to be even darker. I was also making some background ideas but they all sucked so I just made a gradient. I like the gradient more than the original background but what do you think? After all I upload this for the user's sake since I can change it to whatever suits me when I want.
Which one of there is the best?




This is it for tonight. I got no sleep last night and I'd really like to be awake tomorrow. Bye guys and if anybody has an idea on how to improve this icon, I would be so glad if you would share it with me. :D
 
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I made 1 version with just blur and 1 with blur and smudge. I don't really know how I'm supposed to fade the beak. I think the result was pretty bad but then again, it looks better when zoomed out to a wc3 icon.
1:st pic blur. | 2:nd pic blur&smudge.
 
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its a tad akward. im not really liking the concept ut the quality is mehhhh...? (im not sure if to call it good or bad. its inbetween.) and im not liking the backround. its just a dissolve filter... the problem is, im not really seeing the all powerful Pheonix Energy. Like the pheonix has some sorta jive to it and this icon isnt really showing it..
Id say a 2.879/5

and you have double posted so many times. Please stop.
 
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its a tad akward. im not really liking the concept ut the quality is mehhhh...? (im not sure if to call it good or bad. its inbetween.) and im not liking the backround. its just a dissolve filter... the problem is, im not really seeing the all powerful Pheonix Energy. Like the pheonix has some sorta jive to it and this icon isnt really showing it..
Id say a 2.879/5

and you have double posted so many times. Please stop.

About the double posts. The first time I couldn't fine the attachment button but I figured out later that I could "Go Advanced" and enter it there.
The second time, I don't know why I did it cause I have edited my posts like hundreds of times.
 
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The background needs some changes, as near the top of head of the phoenix is black, while the rest is gradient of orange. As zombie suggested, you should make it resemble flames. The beak needs some work, try adding some highlights to the bottom jaw, and shadows to the top.

~Snap
 
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Try using colors like in this pic that I made

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That looks great but I'm afraid I have no idea how you made it look that good. I would have made it nice from the beginning if I knew how to. I've constantly been updating things that people have pointed out so I've learned as I was making it and I'm 100% out of ideas and ways of doing the things you guys tell me to.
 
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you don't make pas btn and dispas btn o.o

don't be lazy it's easy...

Well I know but I just didn't think it would be necessary to make a passive one so I skipped it.
I can just create and upload a BTNPAS and DISBTNPAS in 30 seconds if I thought people could have use for it so it's not about me being lazy.

Edit: Uploaded a passive one. And I know it's still pending. I'm just taking a break 'cause I don't really know what to do with it right now.
 
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Gunggung, no.

Adding more borders are useless. If people want more borders, then they can download Button Manager and add some.

Many of the best artists only make a BTN and DISBTN version, such as Mr.Goblin, CR, and KelThuzad.

Gunggung? Omg...

sorry i don't know because iam a noobie D:
 
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Haha. It's quite funny how I always seem to think my icon is good but as soon as I change it, I'm like "how could I ever think THAT looked good?". I wonder what I will think about it's current state when I'm at the next step because I must say that I actually like it. But then again, I always feel proud right after I've made something.
 
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Hey. I saw that my icon has been approved and I read the comment. I haven't given up on it, I have just had so much other things to do lately. I'll get back to iconmaking as soon as I have time if I still am into it by then.

Edit: I'm back after quite a while, not that anyone noticed my absence, hehe.
 
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