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I made this icon for my map called Warhammer 3rd Storm of Chaos.
It was ment to be an icon for a passive ability for a dwarfen warrior. @ Warhammer dwarfes have a big book were all crimes against their race are written down.
So the dwarf tells his allies allies what every enemy has done to his race, so that his allies may fight them with hatred.

I dont care what you use this icon for, but it would be nice if you give credits.

Update: improved the lighning glow

Update: icon works now ingame :D

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Dwarf, Warhammer, Book, Hatred, Damaz Kron
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13:16, 15th Jul 2009 zombie2279: Add some further shading to the hand on the right side, it looks really plain this way. The rest is awesome. 9:41, 18th Jul 2009 zombie2279: Still plain, but it's definitely satisfactory quality.

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13:16, 15th Jul 2009
zombie2279: Add some further shading to the hand on the right side, it looks really plain this way. The rest is awesome.

9:41, 18th Jul 2009
zombie2279: Still plain, but it's definitely satisfactory quality.
 
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You didn't even use any layers when detailing the object. It's pretty much a straight give-away. About the rest, uploading more icons doesn't prove that you are a "great artist". They could be stolen aswell if that proves to be the present case.

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Too obvious.
 
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dude... you are realy anoying...
what else shall i do...
and why the fuck should i use more layers then i need? btw if u didnt get it there is no "white border" on the layer... if u dont believe i am a great artist watch this:
man... i realy would draw this icon again for you (because i h8 it when u do something bad people say you are shit, but if you do something good they say you have stolen it) ... if i wouldnt need the time create more icons

and finaly only for you i uploadet that GREAT art i made... if dont accept it now i go crazy or so...
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and just to mention that those pics are in real 3-10 cm ... (should be 1.5-4 inchs)
 
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Drop that tone at once. It is my job to sort out stolen material and believe me, it takes me two clicks to get it all gone permanently. Show some freakin' respect please.

99% of users whose first submission is of that quality usually turns out to be a thief. That simple fact calls for a major suspicion. I'm really glad you like linking your videos, but I must say, that's barely enough proof for genuine material. You also committed a few very suspicious mistakes, the white borders, for example are to be seen on most stolen material. Also, being a good modeler doesn't necessarily make a good icon artist and damn it, that icon is not even approvable according to the submission rules, even if you made that model, since an icon has to be freehand, not a screenshot.

No, I'm not saying you stole anything. Despite that, in light of the facts pointed out above, you have to prove the contrary.

EDIT: Also note that paper art != computer art and anyway, what the hell is Layer 3 for? I mean, you didn't use layering at all and there are two ones made for the custom lightning brush.
 
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ok man, i understand your just doing your job... and perhaps your doing it good., but you know what... i dont give a ****. remove it and i will never ever upload any of the stuff i create again... and sry these are my first icons, i couldnt know you are suspending everyone as a thief. btw the white borders are there because as you may saw from that layers i cut that out from the background...

and i know screencaps are not allowed, but i thought because i made that model and i also addet some handdrawn detail, that would be ok...

and at last... this vid doesnt proove i am good @ doing icons, but it prooves that i am a great artist doesnt it? and i said nothing else... out of good artist--->reading tutorials @ hive--->good icons
 
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Don't take off your icons if they are indeed yours. I understand this must be an unpleasant experience for you, but such things have to be done. I will debate this issue with a fellow moderator. Until then, fulfilling the thing we talked about in PMs might really support your case.
 
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he uses zbrush, i think hes legit ;)
Lolz^8; +rep

Anyway, I like the icon overall. My only suggestions would be
1. Make the outline on the hands less noticeable (more peach - less black)
2. Lighten up the very middle and edges of the book.
3. Increase the size of the glow at the top and to the right in order to even out.

I think that together, these should add definition and make it fit in with other Wc3 icons.
For now: :infl_thumbs_up::infl_thumbs_up::infl_thumbs_up: :witch_doc_sad: :witch_doc_sad: (3/5)
 
@zombie2279: many people do these mistakes. Start drawing the basis already, and it's turning out fine, but when they catch theirselves, they are at the wrong layer. Then, the wand should be used to alpha the rest, and it gets the look of a CnP/ripoff.
But the fact that he didnt use separate layers to the arm and the book makes it pretty possible that it's stolen.
 
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Whether it's C&Ped or not, it looks like shit right now. That blue glow needs to go. The thick black outlines ruin the quality of the icon. The pose is very static. The only good thing about this icon, in my opinion, is the book.

2.5

If you change things a bit, I'll up my rating.
 
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about the pose i have to aggro totaly, but i tried out some poses and that fit my idea most. about the outlines i have to aggro partly, they are thick, but that gives the icon a kinda comic-like look. and the blue glow will stay, because i made this icon for a hero with a blue-electrical theme

Mm, but it's not the fact that it's blue that's the problem. Look at it, it's all flat and ugly. It looks like you cut the book and hand out of a sheet of paper and stuck it on a picture of a halogen lamp. If this was truly made for an electrical-themed hero, I would expect sparks and jolts of lightning to be shooting out of his fingers. At least try to make things look 3D, it's already bad enough that you took a bird's-eye-view perspective on the hands.
 
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i know its flat... but now i tell the whole story:D :
this is an icon for a dwarfen warrior hero, and i got standart wc3 icons for all hios abilitys. out of that one, so i made one myself, and that had to be fitting to the other icons and his abilitys so---> blue. then it was important there is a opened book with one hand pointing @ the book and one @ the cam. well but with all the more dynamic versions there always the book kinda fell off. means it was too small of actual pixel-size, or too big in proportion with the hands. so i had no choice, but to make this... static version.

when this does not fit in the herosheme (didnt import yet, cause my mate isharioth has the latest version of the map) i will completely redo it anyway.
 
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1. Make the outline on the hands less noticeable (more peach - less black)
2. Lighten up the very middle and edges of the book.
3. Increase the size of the glow at the top and to the right in order to even
I really like the new glow, so disregard number 3.
Glow also complements book so I don't think its necessary to lighten it anymore (ignore 2.)
I still think you should lighten up the hand outlines (keep 1.).

*edit* You might want the new glow/sparks to overlap the bottom of the book to make it look like the book is sending out the sparks instead of the sparks sending out the book. Catch me? */edit*
 
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