Blood Gulch

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Date: 2012/Mar/04 17:21:32

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Comment: This is actually quite an extraordinary melee map, rather fresh and original!
I love the idea of those waypoints at the back of your base, it makes early harassments a lot faster and of course, more fun.
The terrain is really unique, you've used the different terrain tiles well, it may be empty at some spots, but it just looks nice either way.
It's symmetric and meets all of the basic melee map expectations.
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eubz · Mar 1, 2012

A high rise terrain, that's good. I'm going to try this one.

Ken-E · Mar 2, 2012

Thanks man, hoping to get your reaction soon. ^ ^

sonofjay · Mar 2, 2012

At last another epic melee map from you Ken

Map review

Terrain 5/5

You place those tile set the way I should be, not many mappers know that technique, they just place tileset after tileset without modify it. They don't know that it will give the best result,

Also the placement of doodads are perfect, but still I find some empty spot that can be improve by putting some environment doodads, well I guess you know what kind of doodads will fit the environment of your map so I guess I'm not leaving some examples for now. Another placement of the pathing is good, but I guess you miss some spot (below the blue waygate at the left when you are facing the monitor, here it the exact point if you know how to look on it -4391, 5132, 307 but if you don't tell me so I can upload a picture.

Gameplay - 4/5

Let's start at the waygate, this is the part of the gameplay that I really like, many melee map makers forget the sweet gameplay if they use a waygate to create a very strategic gameplay. And for your map that the waygates led to the very back of a players base, it forces the player to not just to attack, but also to play defense. But the only problem here, newbies won't realize that it was a very crucial part of the game, and they just continue to push.

Hmm Neutral buildings - good
Neutral creeps - good
Whoa wait, the goldmine was defended by a red camp creeps? As far as I remember a goldmine shouldn't be defended by a red camp. Someone really known on this website told me that I just can't remember who he is. Hmm I don't really know what should I say about this.

Well anyway total score is 4.5/5 or simply 5/5.

This was not the everyday melee map that you will see as the terrain really broke the rules.(but I guess there were only few people who makes melee maps) simply an epic terrain.

Oscar Mike 2.o · Mar 4, 2012

It's a great map, feels like Halo in Medieval and lower graphics.
the concept was very alike an'all.
Great job!

Orcnet · Mar 4, 2012

Map Review

Blood Gulch (No Version/s Stated)

Rating System:

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5/5 91-100 A

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4/5 81-90% B

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3/5 75-80% C

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2/5 70-74% D

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1/5 50-69% F

Overview:

Gameplay

Blood Gulch is based on the Halo: Combat Evolved level, Blood Gulch. Like its namesake, it is set in a vast canyon containing two bases; however, because the genre is real-time strategy, the bases are far more functional than the hollowed-out structures from the original. Between the opposing bases lies a huge, open field with hills, cliffs, and ditches, and rock walls all around. The terrain is mostly desert-like.

"Outstanding map performance for this one, for replicating a map similar to a bad-ass game for a more bad-ass game, also nothing wrong with the in-game balance, and so does to creep difficulty."

Terrain

"Remarkably unique design made for the alternation on the cliffs for this map, I really like how you prevented ground units to break in those path blockers(can only be seen in World Editor) too, although the trees are too far away from player locations, you still finished the product by scattering more trees in a proper way."

Management

"Over my testings, all I have to say is that this is a decent game and performs well, this map gives a different view to warcraft III melee maps and a must play for 1v1 matches, but something bugs me when I tabbed in the map editor, I think you missed a spot: "

Total Score:

Rate Score Percent Letter

14/15 97% A

Status: APPROVED

JollyD · Mar 5, 2012

I will rate it 5/5 it is good! ^) lalala-la-la

HFR · Mar 6, 2012

The terrain looks pretty bland and empty.

Ken-E · Mar 6, 2012

HFR said:
The terrain looks pretty bland and empty.

Yeah, I get those from other terrainers, probably gonna worked on the tilesets and try adding more doodads. I did, however experimented to make it more Halo like.

sonofjay · Mar 6, 2012

About making the terrain more of a halo like, I would you actually made it! I low quality halo map. ^.^V. But for a War3 map, this was simply amazing.

RiotZ · Mar 8, 2012

Terrain looks a little, checkered, the trees float on the hills, along with the other doodads, spires etc, the shadow map looks pretty bad... (I don't recommend using it.)

In terms of originality and symmetrical design, it is excellent, like Kael I love the waypoints.

lonepair · Apr 9, 2012

lol.. How can undead acolytes survive in this map?

Ken-E · Apr 12, 2012

lonepair said:
lol.. How can undead acolytes survive in this map?

What do you mean?

Pr0nogo · Apr 21, 2012

Your link to Shattered Lands leads to Frosty Woods instead. Might want to fix that.

As for his statement on Acolytes, I think lonepair was referring to the fact that you can use the waygates to pop in behind the enemy's gold mine and snipe the workers.

Ken-E · May 16, 2012

Updated.
Also, fix the description problem, thanks for taking notice.

UndeadImmortal · Aug 11, 2012

I found the easter egg

[broke="Its a cheese

"]SPOILER ALERT![/broke]

Ken-E · Aug 12, 2012

UndeadImmortal said:
I found the easter egg [broke="Its a cheese "]SPOILER ALERT![/broke]

Haha, be sure to check it out on my other maps. I've already set them out for everyone to find. +rep for your trouble mate! ^^

deepstrasz · Jun 4, 2016

It would have been more interesting if the Way Gates sent the units directly to the enemy's base. Of course, that would have made it a terrible rush festivity.

Ken-E · Jun 4, 2016

deepstrasz said:
It would have been more interesting if the Way Gates sent the units directly to the enemy's base. Of course, that would have made it a terrible rush festivity.

Really? A lot of people find the Way Gate tug-of-war already hectic as it is, hahaha! Well that's going to be chaotic indeed.

I rather have this way, atleast you can set towers and defense structures on Waygate to counter backdoor rushing.

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