Attack on the Villager

Moderator · Mar 1, 2014

22:14, 12th Mar 2014
Hell_Master: See eubz's suggestions:

eubz;2497605 said:
review

The Review
1. I have played your map and saw its triggers. You have many location leaks specially in the wave and spawn triggers.
2. The terrain can still be polished.
3. During the gameplay, a sound catches my attention, it say's that our ally is under attack or something like that. And to my surprise, someone is harvesting golds. Instead of doing this just set bounty on to player 12 brown and remove that annoying harvester.
4. During the selling of the tower, the death animation of the tower is very much obvious. If you kill the tower, get its position, put it in the variable, create SFX, do some more stuff then remove dying unit from the game so the death animation is not obvious.
5. As the creeps enter the last region where they are suppose to diminish the life you set, the death animation of these creeps are also obvious. The same solution can be done. After you kill the unit via trigger remove it in the game after some stuff you set.
6. If possible, don't use waits.

Some more
1. You can still improve your description.

needs fix: 1.23/5

And as for my own, it's just your everyday TD map and I would suggest doing hat eubz said to you as suggestions and also consider making this much better in cases of displaying wave texts, descriptions and texts. Make them much more neat, organized and etc.

You might want to add some unique stuffs in here as well like featuring other gameplay types into this such that of a mix gameplay. For now, needs fix or Awaiting Update.

LordDz · Mar 6, 2014

There are several leaks in the map. You should fix those.
In the leaver trigger, why do you have a wait here:

Code:

 in the Unit Group - Pick every unit in TempGroup and do (Actions)
    Loop - Actions
        Wait 1.00 seconds
        Unit - Remove (Picked unit) from the game

?
If two people left very close to each other, the 2nd player would override the tempggroup with his units, keeping some of the 1th players units to still be in the game.

DUTY OF RS · Mar 8, 2014

If there is two players leaving very close to each other it aint so much to play on solo its more of a Online Game. So for me it aint so dangerous yet, but if it will be a problem i will fix it.

eubz · Mar 10, 2014

review

The Review
1. I have played your map and saw its triggers. You have many location leaks specially in the wave and spawn triggers.
2. The terrain can still be polished.
3. During the gameplay, a sound catches my attention, it say's that our ally is under attack or something like that. And to my surprise, someone is harvesting golds. Instead of doing this just set bounty on to player 12 brown and remove that annoying harvester.
4. During the selling of the tower, the death animation of the tower is very much obvious. If you kill the tower, get its position, put it in the variable, create SFX, do some more stuff then remove dying unit from the game so the death animation is not obvious.
5. As the creeps enter the last region where they are suppose to diminish the life you set, the death animation of these creeps are also obvious. The same solution can be done. After you kill the unit via trigger remove it in the game after some stuff you set.
6. If possible, don't use waits.

Some more
1. You can still improve your description.

needs fix: 1.23/5

Tal'Rarity · Mar 10, 2014

LordDz said:
There are several leaks in the map. You should fix those.
In the leaver trigger, why do you have a wait here:

Code:

in the Unit Group - Pick every unit in TempGroup and do (Actions) Loop - Actions Wait 1.00 seconds Unit - Remove (Picked unit) from the game

?
If two people left very close to each other, the 2nd player would override the tempggroup with his units, keeping some of the 1th players units to still be in the game.

Code:

 in the Unit Group - Pick every unit in TempGroup and do (Actions)
    Loop - Actions
Unit - Add a 1.00 second Generic expiration timer to (Picked unit)

That would fix your problem.

DUTY OF RS · Mar 10, 2014

2. How do i polish it?
3. We'll if its annoying you i cant do anything about it. And im not gonna set on bounty for 12 nor remove the harvester.
5. It is ment that sort of the falling down magic thing at the end that if units get into it he dies? What do you suggest? that he will be removed from the game and not dying or something? Everyone will think *What a f*ack, where did he go?*
6. i need to use waits. stupid question.

Will improve the description later.

And try it on bnet if you havent ok?
Its more a bnet game than a solo...

muzzel · Mar 10, 2014

DUTY OF RS said:
6. i need to use waits. stupid question.

Im sure what he meant was replacing them with timers. Not a stupid question at all, but maybe not a priority either. First focus on improving gameplay/terrain, then you can take care of optimizing things. (Didnt play the map myself, im only refering to his review)

eubz · Mar 10, 2014

DUTY OF RS said:
2. How do i polish it?
3. We'll if its annoying you i cant do anything about it. And im not gonna set on bounty for 12 nor remove the harvester.
5. It is ment that sort of the falling down magic thing at the end that if units get into it he dies? What do you suggest? that he will be removed from the game and not dying or something? Everyone will think *What a f*ack, where did he go?*
6. i need to use waits. stupid question.

Will improve the description later.

And try it on bnet if you havent ok?
Its more a bnet game than a solo...

-Using waits causes problem and one of the problem of using it has already been presented by the first post.
-As for the harvester, a new player will be thinking that one of this ally has been attacked and he will look for it and what he will see is only the gold harvester with the weird occurrences of spawning golds just in front of the harvester.
-As for the selling of the tower, the sfx will become the effect why the tower is gone.
-As for the creeps disappearance, you can also add some effects so that anyone who sees would think something beyond the special effect you have added.
NOTE: Please, do some changes with this map.

DUTY OF RS · Mar 19, 2014

- The harvester will stay as it is.
- The selling tower ability have being fixed.
- The creeps has also been fixed.

I did update it again, but got rejection back, and no respond why.
I will leave the map as it is, and wait for the mod to respond.

eubz · Apr 1, 2014

DUTY OF RS said:
- The harvester will stay as it is.

Please, do as what I said.

DUTY OF RS · Apr 1, 2014

Ok its fixed and i also tok the Lordz suggestion to.

eubz · Apr 1, 2014

I see a lot of changes here but I also see you used waits too much. You can actually remove them and use my tutorial about spawning creeps in a defense map: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...eating-levels-defense-map-249427/#post2500035 I'll always check for improvements in this map and if all are alright, I'll talk to a mod to move this.

DUTY OF RS · Apr 1, 2014

Ok i can try do that, but i need to ask you why i need to remove my spawn? like the waits etc...

eubz · Apr 6, 2014

Waits do cause a lot of negative things on the map. PM me if these things are done so I can recommend this map to be in the Pending Section again.

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