18:05, 16th May 2008
Werewulf: bs, all i see is clear tonal and colour adjustments, rejected.

um, his face is way too human (his hair is too blonde) and his armour and sword are just darkened... not much else...

It's a recolour of the Death Knight skin, not even Arthas.

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i like it and those who say it looks bad LOOK AT THE WHOLE DEFINITION AND WATCH THE REIGN OF CHAOS CINAMATIC AT THE END OF THE HUMAN CAMPEIGN he looks pretty human in that cinamatic plus his hair is pretty blonde

monkeyboy is right he looks pretty human in the cinimatic its not a "recolor" i completely changed his armor if you payed attention you would see that. oh and you can see some of him in my avatar.

Changes from original:
-very blond hair (as it is in the cinimatic)
-added skulls to armor (shoulder pad, breast plate ect.)
-made upper arm scale mail
-made gloves darker (small change)
-made upper leg the same type of plate armor as in the cinimatic
-made lower leg fur
-made random deathknight rune sword into frostmourne
-of cource made everything almost black

now people i HAD to start with the death knight skin excuse me if my brain didn't work EXACTLY the same as yours and think the exact same thing as you.

oh and btw i changed the sword more than darken if you would stop being a lasy cridic and simply compared it to the death knight skin you would see EXECTLY the differances that i worked on for YOU. now go download the fully customized death knight.

P.S. this skin has not been upgraded, your knowledge has.

You... Just fail.

I didn't say it was a recolor. If I did, then what I meant to say was that it was too dark to see much difference. I am not trying to insult your work. Just critique.

It is a recolour... with some CnP.

I see... I didn't doubt that there were changes, just that it was too hard to see any chages. Thats all.

varsaigen sry i didnt fully understand exactly what you meant i agree i mean to change it i just don't seem to have the time (or remember when i do) it looks better on the unwrapped version because you can see all of the detaili will change it as soon as possible. now ike_ike if tou don't like it dont download it i don't want your download if you are going to be like that it is differant not just black and CnP PLUS CnP is hardly bad unless it is a clear knowledge (on the model) where it is from i in this skin hid most of the CnP under freehand so it looks like a blizzard freehand as best as possible btw read my other post if you thinks its just recolor.
if you think that the CnP is easy to point out where it is from and easy to know that it is not freehanded then tell me where did it come from? and what is CnPed?

oh by the way i also completely remade the chest i did not CnP exempt for the skull from the knee and even that i freehanded over to make it look diferant.

there isnt anything bad about this skin (exept the darkness) just nothing particularly good.

AirHead said:

monkeyboy is right he looks pretty human in the cinimatic its not a "recolor" i completely changed his armor if you payed attention you would see that

Changes from original:
-very light brown hair (as it is in the cinimatic)
-added skulls to armor (shoulder pad, breast plate ect.)
-made upper arm scale mail
-made gloves darker (small change)
-made upper leg the same type of plate armor as in the cinimatic
-made lower leg fur
-made random deathknight rune sword into frostmourne
-of cource made everything almost black

now people i HAD to start with the death knight skin excuse me if my brain didn't work EXACTLY the same as yours and think the exact same thing as you.

oh and btw i changed the sword more than darken if you would stop being a lasy cridic and simply compared it to the death knight skin you would see EXECTLY the differances that i worked on for YOU. now go download the fully customized death knight.

P.S. this skin has not been upgraded, your knowledge has.

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u mean blond hair sense when is his hair brown? look at your image lol its blond

... oh right yeah. sry blond. but i still need to edit. the file and screeny are on my other comp so i can't edit it for another maybe hour or two. i also need to make his face arthas' CnPed from the arthas skin along with frostmourne. also the hood in the back has some serious issues that i need to change to make it look like a hood. so in about an hour delete yours and re-download. sry i have to update i didnt realize i needed to change stuff. again im very sorry.

AirHead said:

varsaigen sry i didnt fully understand exactly what you meant i agree i mean to change it i just don't seem to have the time (or remember when i do) it looks better on the unwrapped version because you can see all of the detaili will change it as soon as possible. now ike_ike if tou don't like it dont download it i don't want your download if you are going to be like that it is differant not just black and CnP PLUS CnP is hardly bad unless it is a clear knowledge (on the model) where it is from i in this skin hid most of the CnP under freehand so it looks like a blizzard freehand as best as possible btw read my other post if you thinks its just recolor.
if you think that the CnP is easy to point out where it is from and easy to know that it is not freehanded then tell me where did it come from? and what is CnPed?

oh by the way i also completely remade the chest i did not CnP exempt for the skull from the knee and even that i freehanded over to make it look diferant.

there isnt anything bad about this skin (exept the darkness) just nothing particularly good.

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Being new here, i assume you dont know the rules.
Skin Submission Rules

* Compliance: No texture file may violate any Hive Workshop general or specific site rules.
* 75% Modification: A skin must be modified at least 75% from the original in order to to be approved.
* Original Work: Textures not created by the submitter are prohibited. If users make a skin inspired by a particular texture, full credit must be given to the original author.
* Shading: Shading must be appropriate on the skin and look correct in-game.
* Copy and Paste: No CnP from existing custom skins is permitted. A maximum of 25% CnP from default Blizzard textures may be acceptable, providing that the skin is well executed.
* Recolors: Recolored skins may be accepted, but only if the rest of the skin follows the above rules.
o Note: CnP & recoloring cannot be used on the same texture (for instance, having 25% CnP & 25% recolor (50% total) wouldn't be allowed, but the total of 25% would be).

that is direct from the rules. You did nothing but change the color and CnP.
As for point ing out where the Cnp is from i think ill give it a shot.
-the pads are from Skeleton.blp
-the boot is from the horse from the skin itself...lol
-the arm is from the scales on the original skin too.

did i miss anything? atleast half the skinners here can recognize what i just said.
Basically there is no freehand on this skin.

ok fine very little staight freehand the only freehand is upper leg and hood (i did a little freehand over every CnP to make it blend and fit well) but does it look like arthas? is it a good skin? (despite the little amount of freehand) i have read the hive workshop skinning rules atleast 4-7 times but still is there reason not to use this in a map so what if its not freehanded much? recolors ar exepted but a recolor and a CnP with a little freehand isnt? also i will admit i think you missed a CnP. the skeleton on his shoulder knee and breastplate are all from skeleton.blp i don't know if thats what you meant by "pads". anyway is the skin good? if you think so download, it if not don't.

Uhm..let me see
Less than 75% freehand, and this will not get approved
I do not care about usefulness, it must be good looking to be useful
You have major CnP all over this skin, don't even try to deny it
Your freehand is pitiful really, you either fix this within 2 days or it's gone

And recolors ARE NOT ACCEPTED
Show me a recolor and I'll let you take my job as a skinning mod

What im trying to say is no its not a good skin. The point if reskinning is to change the skin so it is significantly different from the origninal, so it can be used as a completely different unit. I explained that badly but i hope you get what i mean.

the end Look

is it aproved?

grog i undestand but look at the Illadin skin a few things down it is just a remake of illidan.

Neither of those are reskins. I think you should grab yourself a new pair of eyeballs if you thought they were.
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I like how it is now. It looks very much like Arthas from the cinimatic where he kills the king. Great job! I think this has finally deserved a good rating. lol. Srry if that insulted you... But I have no problem with this now. Congratulations!

AirHead..you are truly an air head
When you learn how to SEE, then come back to skinning

LOL do you have any idea how amazing that illidan skin is? its 100% freehand! you could learn a thing or two from it.