Arthas' Journey 1 - Exploration

Moderator · Apr 21, 2010

16:46, 29th Apr 2010
ap0calypse: Rejected

light bolt30 · Apr 21, 2010

Improve description; tell us how to play, what to do, anything special, credits, screenshots.

Also since this is your practice map, this shouldn't be here unless its completed or is in beta state. If you want to learn how to import custom models and want to learn world editor basics I suggest you look around the map making forums as they will help you alot, with basics and advanced GUI and Jass. I will not rate since its your first map, but take in what I just told you for your future maps as they will impact the audience alot.

indomitable1319 · Apr 21, 2010

Oh, okay. I'll update the map desc. Thanks for the tip.

What do you think of the terraining and the doodads?

light bolt30 · Apr 21, 2010

I've downloaded and opened the map, heres what I thought about the terrain:
-You spammed alot of doodads
-Some parts like the bottom right is really plain
If you want to know how to be a good terrainer, remember this; never use blizzard cliffs as they are ugly, unless you have to it'll be good if you cover it up with doodads. Use the maps deformation tool to change the terrain to your liking, you can make hills that look better than using blizzard cliffs.

Raging Ent · Apr 21, 2010

light bolt30 said:
I've downloaded and opened the map, heres what I thought about the terrain:
-You spammed alot of doodads
-Some parts like the bottom right is really plain
If you want to know how to be a good terrainer, remember this; never use blizzard cliffs as they are ugly, unless you have to it'll be good if you cover it up with doodads. Use the maps deformation tool to change the terrain to your liking, you can make hills that look better than using blizzard cliffs.

Actually, if you want a nice looking terrain don't use blizzard cliffs, if you like good gameplay and play with line of sight WITHOUT LoS blockers everywhere, use blizzard cliffs ^^either it looks good but has less gameplay, or it looks simple and has better gameplay.

indomitable1319 · Apr 21, 2010

But do you guys like the story, units, techtree, triggers, cinematics,etc?
Overall ratings over 5?
Thanks if you do.

light bolt30 · Apr 21, 2010

Storylines bit short, maybe expand his journey and even turn it into a campaign? I didn't like the camera of the cinematics, you might want to learn more about making cinematics for short scenes in your map in the forums. You might want to use custom skins for the units or even change the model of Arthas since before he became a paladin and protected the Human Alliance, he could even be just wearing some plain old armor or something since its about his childhood. The creeps around the maps is pretty boring, maybe you should custom make some creeps without changing the models to make the game more interesting.
RATING: 2.5/5
Keep trying, as you take in feedback you'll fix your mistakes. This can possibly turn into a campaign if your dedicated to working for it.

indomitable1319 · Apr 21, 2010

I was planning to make it into a campaign really. I just wanted to see everyone's comments so I can improve. Thanks for the feedback, taking in everything you said.

Septimus · Apr 21, 2010

use fog instead of leaving the sky black.

indomitable1319 · Apr 21, 2010

Uhm... How, exactly? Database backing up in 9 Mins.

Planning to make it into a custom campaign now.

Herian · Apr 21, 2010

Scenario > (Something) I think. Map Options maybe.

indomitable1319 · Apr 22, 2010

Okay, let me update it.

light bolt30 · Apr 22, 2010

It will be nice if you tell us the story/plot of each chapter in the description for each part of the campaign. If you are successful at doing this people will give you a good rating aslong as its very good and tells the story very well.

PrinceOfThaWest · Apr 22, 2010

Looks nice, just add the fog and sky... ^^

indomitable1319 · Apr 22, 2010

I added simple fog.... I don't know how to add sky...
Fog - I just checked the box and pressed OK. That's it.. No editing on anything.

@light bolt30 - You're giving me such great ideas! And ways to improve. Anyway, Chap 2 is about 15% done.

light bolt30 · Apr 22, 2010

indomitable1319 said:
I added simple fog.... I don't know how to add sky...
Fog - I just checked the box and pressed OK. That's it.. No editing on anything.

@light bolt30 - You're giving me such great ideas! And ways to improve. Anyway, Chap 2 is about 15% done.

I think if you want to add a sky effect go to:
Scenerio > Map Preferences > Sky Display
I'm not 100% sure but try

Herian · Apr 22, 2010

It's not Sky Display, it's only Sky or don't know... Just too lazy to open WE.

indomitable1319 · Apr 23, 2010

Hahaha! Too lazy for a few clicks?

karl19981 · Apr 23, 2010

The map looks good, but since my warcraft doesn't work even with a CD. I can't try it...

light bolt30 · Apr 23, 2010

Events
Map Initialization
Conditions
Actions
Environment - Set Sky

Try it should work. Eg. Set Sky Northrend

EDIT: Btw try keep your changelogs in one tag. It'll look messy if you make one hidden tag per changelog.

indomitable1319 · Apr 23, 2010

Sure thing.
Can I ask how to make an item stacking system?

light bolt30 · Apr 23, 2010

Heres an Item Stacking System I found on the Hive. Hope it helps you.

Elthehablo · Apr 23, 2010

This looks awesome!

TheSpoon · Apr 23, 2010

This is quite an interesting idea, I hope it goes well!
Maybe we could link our campaigns somehow?

indomitable1319 · Apr 24, 2010

OMG ITS THESPOON!!!! Up to you, if you'd like! I just don't know how and what hero you'll use for the second one.

light bolt30 · Apr 24, 2010

What is the second chapter's storyline going to be about?
Also try to add side quests just to spice the game up.

indomitable1319 · Apr 24, 2010

I'm working on a small project atm. but it's still about 15% done. Just getting used to the other triggers and other stuff so I can make improvements on AJ2-The Village.

Septimus · Apr 27, 2010

Arthas Journey 1 was an rpg style like map by Indomitable1319 that involves Arthas journey before the wc3 sequences.

To begin with, the destructible of the map surely gives me a good laugh. I mean, at the cinematic; Arthas say "The rocks behind us have crashed! We have no choice but to move on." and yet the rock chunk could be destroy.

Just like part 2, this map contain bug as well. 1 of the bug was the quest indicate the sasquatch was slain even though I have not done it yet.

You also add soo much unnecessary destructible such as barricade, this gives player the edge to accomplish the game such as destroying the orc base without any difficulty at all.

I would not going to elaborate much further about this map quality, this map quality was nowhere near approval as it still have several couple bug that was unacceptable and an balance issues to be take care off.

However, this map quality could be decent, or at least close to it if the author itself improve the quality of his work.

As for now, this map should be rejected until the author itself fix it. Once you have improve the quality of the map, click at the update button to upload the update version of it instead of delete and re-upload it. Any rejected sources would be set back to pending once an update have been done.

I suggest you to read more tutorial about triggering, the triggering for now was quite poor.

1/5 (Unacceptable)

indomitable1319 · Apr 28, 2010

Septimus said:
Arthas Journey 1 was an rpg style like map by Indomitable1319 that involves Arthas journey before the wc3 sequences.

To begin with, the destructible of the map surely gives me a good laugh. I mean, at the cinematic; Arthas say "The rocks behind us have crashed! We have no choice but to move on." and yet the rock chunk could be destroy.

Just like part 2, this map contain bug as well. 1 of the bug was the quest indicate the sasquatch was slain even though I have not done it yet.

You also add soo much unnecessary destructible such as barricade, this gives player the edge to accomplish the game such as destroying the orc base without any difficulty at all.

I would not going to elaborate much further about this map quality, this map quality was nowhere near approval as it still have several couple bug that was unacceptable and an balance issues to be take care off.

However, this map quality could be decent, or at least close to it if the author itself improve the quality of his work.

As for now, this map should be rejected until the author itself fix it. Once you have improve the quality of the map, click at the update button to upload the update version of it instead of delete and re-upload it. Any rejected sources would be set back to pending once an update have been done.

I suggest you to read more tutorial about triggering, the triggering for now was quite poor.

1/5 (Unacceptable)

I'll fix Arthas' attack speed here, too
The sasquatch part... WTF? It doesn't happen to me.
I fixed the Orc part.
What else did you notice?

Septimus · Apr 28, 2010

The sasquatch part... WTF? It doesn't happen to me.

If you kill a bunch of creep at the east part of the map which are surrounded by invulnerable barricade before you hunt the sasquatch, it would automatically indicate the quest to be accomplish.

indomitable1319 · Apr 28, 2010

The murlocs? Hmm... I'll reopen it and see what's wrong.

Septimus · Apr 28, 2010

indomitable1319 said:
The murlocs? Hmm... I'll reopen it and see what's wrong.

not the murloc.. some creep that unlock priest when you killed it.

indomitable1319 · Apr 28, 2010

OH! THE FURBOLGS!!!! The champion! I'll make the furbolgs invulnerable...

You actually finished the Missing Priest quest. You haven't freed the Village Guard yet, so there. It wasn't discovered yet.

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