18:03, 8th Sep 2011
Vengeancekael:
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19 downloads but no replies =[
How sad is this . .

Well let me be the first to comment

Interesting and fast-act gameplay, pretty beautiful
Suggestions :
-Team 1 and Team 2 is more better than BottomUp and TopDown
-Almost all are non-custom skills, but meh, you know what to do
-4 neutral creeps on 1 group is too hard on start of the game, and also there are level 4 - level 5 neutral creeps on start. Maybe you should add level 1 - level 2 neutral creeps on start, then the level is become higher every time (evry 5 minutes/ every 7 minutes/ depending on your mind)
-4th skill (I don't know what it's said) only can be learn on level 7! That's a long time
-Ice Frost Troll, Freezing Blast skill, about 70 manacost on level 1 ? Oh and also there is many other heroes that have small mana pool and big 'unique' skill's manacost
-Should add damage on Hydromancer's Hydro Crush. Oh one more thing, the desc said "champions in the world mystically summoned on the island", and the Hydromancer's story said he is mutated because of an accident on an experiment, so what make the Hydromancer to become a "champion"? Maybe you should change his story (About the Fel Boar, I know you was deliberately make the story like that, and about the Miner, I don't know )
-Hey "Tornado" effect is not much, add slow effect too on the wielder of the Flag (On CaptureFlag mode)
-Events maybe, like 'PvP duel' on the future
-Items i very hate them and no consumables like pot, etc?
-Oh also, I see in the map's desc (on hive), I think you don't need to add "Gameplay" cause that's already explained on "Modes"
That's what I got for 10 minutes playing, hope you happy with me!

Interesting map. I love arenas mostly, but I don't like when there are creeps. I mean, you should have them removed and emphasis on the Team Vs Team combats. Also, tried 4 heroes and I wasn't impressed that much, mostly reused abilities. Found some bugs though.

Blood Fiend, use his primary attribute, kill something with it and you have a permanent blood fountain at that location.

It's good looking Terrain-wise
Could be a little better for heroes. More custom spells
Item, pretty good, correct the few mistakes I saw Purchase Brilliant Staff on both swords.
I'd gladly have less Receipe and more choice to make item-wise.

Attribute skills, not sure they are really useful, except for when you're trying a different build. But why would you put more Energy on a Blood fiend that's using his life to empower his spells?

I have the same problem for my map, why would you level up Int when your primary is Agility. Well the answer is the cost of your spells !

I give you a 3/5 since it's a good map, -1 for bugs and -1 cuz I don't like all the features.

Still, very good ideas on this map. Continue improving it.

Thanks guys, improving in progress @@
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Druu
About the creep thing, if there are no creeps it will be kind a boring.
and for the attribute bonuses, since the spells deals damage base on attributes learning them increase the damage dealt..

-BLOOD_BATH-
The creep level thing, there are level 1 - 3 creeps but others are all labeled as Green point
it's at both side's middle, top left and bottom right is medium creeps while middle is the hardest..
For the PvP thing, i need more time @@ since I'm bad with all those times/countdowns, more space is needed i guess

it's not a sufficient reason to put Int on Blood Fiend. That's what I meant. There is no reason to boost something else than primary attribute.

And creeps make an arena game boring imo. It forces you to kill those instead of playing against the enemies. I dislike creep so much.
What about you put something else to do instead. Capping shrines that give exp would make it even better. It would create battles around
those shrines.

Okay @@
I see that..
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Oh, the idea is good, but about the bounty problem@@
mayb exp shrine thing can work in FFA mode

K then, but now I should said that 4 creeps on 1 group is too hard on start of the game.

-> Druu
Good idea, but add creeps on an arena isn't bad. How if there is one noob that are level 1 and others is level >3? The best way for that noob is fighting creeps to earn levels, not standing on an exp shrine and bullied.

What if between level 1 and 10 there is not such a big difference and the level 1 can kill the level 10? Then having creeps is useless when you know how to play and you have teammates to help out.

I know it's not the case in here, but something equivalent could happen in another map. I'm not totally against creeps, I just dislike the fact that they are all over the place and when you begin the match, there is no battle, there is farming instead.

Whether there?
And if level 1 can kill level 10, it must be 'be dying by level 10(hp about 5%-10%), and killed by level 1' (don't know what the term on english. "Trashing" maybe), and make that level 1 being ridiculed by level 10.
Also there is thousand of noobs in this world, that don't know how to play. But if that's the case, take my suggestion on post #3.

Oh pretty discussion, but let ksStr repair his map

OMG...I decide to leave the creep there . .
The creep spawn are quite slow so players really need to kill each other to get money and exp faster, that's what i usually do when I finished killing one camp with my team..
New things coming:
-New heroes
-Better abilities i supposed..custom skills are hard to imagine @@
-Killing notifications

Hey, just saying, your map's name is very similar to this map here:
Champions Arena

Ohno, I thought I searched through the maps and found no similar names =[
Should I change a new name @@

Must, if not other peoples will misunderstanding and said that you copy other peoples' idea, you don't want it yes?
Oh I see you've a problem with custom skills

But, the stories are already about the champions...
hmm
I'll try =[

Well change the stories
Or if you don't want change the stories, the name should be War of Champions, Rise of Champions, etc. It' easy, baby

Okay, I'll change that in the next update..

And like in my map terrain isnt good you shold make it nice.

@@ somehow I am quite satisfied with the terrain
But, i'll try to improve it =D

Actually ksStr, I think you should keep it the way YOU like it instead of killing your idea with
doodads just to please everyone that always say that about any terrain they see.

BUT, I'm sure that if you try to please everyone, you will discover how lovely a good terrain
is easy to make when you know the tools and such.

What ever you choose. Good luck on it.

Map Review

"Arena of Champs" an Hero Arena map where players venture on a small island taking its bloody appointments against there enemies and fight to control its minimum territories. made by ksStr.

Orcnet said:

"Arena of Champs" an Hero Arena map where players venture on a small island taking its bloody appointments against there enemies and fight to control its minimum territories. made by ksStr.

Map Review

Arena of Champs v6

Rating System

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	5/5	91-100	A

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	4/5	81-90%	B

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	3/5	75-80%	C

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	2/5	70-74%	D

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	1/5	50-69%	F

General:

Gameplay-[5/5]
Note: Were I pronounce your game challenging or a waste of time.

Playability-[5/5]
Note: This part tells me if the game is rather fun and can be played again and again.

Terrain-[5/5]
Note: Were I tell your game's environmental display is either great or terrible.

Managing-[5/5]
Note: This is were I explain the output or outcome quality of the game.

Bug/s
Note: No score, just to tell your map has bugs on it or simply bug-free.

Overall-[20/20]

About My Reputations:

My complements for the Maker/s of the map's game.

Were I explain your map needs to get fix or make an improvement of your work.

Overview

Gameplay

As for the game's output, players can identify the basic fundamentals of your arena map that I really appreciate it, but to see all heroes had the same 3 abilities that counter-attacks strength, agility, and intelligence against your opponents. it can bring a heavy downfall to everyone playing your game, which is not nice for an arena map, arena heroes must have different abilities actually, because of the same abilities I already explained, everyone can just spam all of them when it comes to open team fights were I believe everyone won't like how it goes.

Playability

By judging upon the playable source of your map, you need to expand more ways to entertain everyone with your game, and I see the features rolling on your map was outstanding, somehow I suggest adding more unique ways that can't bore the players while playing it again.

Terrain

To what I observed to your terrain, a sunken ruin template was the perfect showcase of altered battlegrounds, including arena maps, but to what I've seen right now, the environmental view was not that good for a while, I recommend you to add doodads that typically visualize an island, such as seaweeds, sea-crushed rocks, watery plants, etc. but since you added ruined high-borne buildings across your map, it only shows a small significance of entertaining players, and for the cliffs, were I hoped you change it in the next update of your map because it does not reveal any life-like possibilities that somehow looks messy, especially the tavern area.

Managing

In overall of my views, your map is great for a basic arena map for everyone to easily coup on instead of those highly advanced games where its so hard to understand, but to see items were few, I want you to add more items, were they can be a good used for players that gets owned by there enemies and vice-versa, heroes in the other way, must be decently balanced in order for everyone to choose there very own hero of there choice.

Bug/s

I somehow stumble upon a minor bug that can interrupt players on there track, about the items, when you spam the purchasing the gloves of haste, the recipe for the gloves of steel won't work, and for the fire sword [can't remember the name], when your going to buy its materials, it somehow feeds both the gloves of haste and gloves of steel which is not nice, I hope you can fix this bug.

Total Score

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	12/20	80%	C

[Fair]
Hope you can do better than before, Goodluck!
happy map-making!

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