21:02, 26th May 2015
Shadow Fury: Map rejected, have a look at my review to know why.

So, I played it moments ago for I was intrigued by the name and I thought it was a campaign anyway here's kinda small review.

TERRAIN:
Well, the terrain is very very empty the roads, pathways and etc. I see no tile variations and the terrain looks raw. You should really improve your terrain more. Add more doodads, tiles, sky and etc.

GAMEPLAY:
Well, I was shocked when at the beginning when all quests were revealed fast and no indicators so I have to explore the whole map. Alleria's spells are default warcraft spells and it's boring to use. I think you should add some custom spells and abilities for the heores. Danath also came out of nowhere and just come along with Alleria with no tranmissions or something. Also there were no items available. You'll just explore, gather heroes/units and kill the enemies.

STORY:
The story seems interesting but without cinematics it hard for me to really know the what is happening in the map. The description in the at the first seems helpful but it doesn't enough. Cinematics is a very good to make so the player will know much of the story, I think it is really needed into your map.

OVERALL:
I think the map is not ready yet and need more improvements. If there are more Acts/Chapters maybe it would be better to compile them as a campaign rather than uploading them one by one. I see potentials in your map but it is not enough. I give it 2/5 and I vote for Needs Fix. Have a nice day and happy mapping.

Thanks for your review. As I said, I would like to make a simple map just as they were in WCII, no cinematics, no itens, etc, and maybe some itens would be useful for in Hard difficulty even I can't play without cheats. And I said too that maybe I would make some more and finish as campaign. And I thought to make Heroes without abilities. I'll make a lot of changes, add some cinematics, some new terrain, as soon as I can.

05/21/2015 Updates:

- Roads added
- Sky and Fog added
- More doodads added, props and enviroments
- Alleria, Danath and Turalyon can choose the learning spells
- Pathing Blockers (Air) were added to make Owl Scouts to not activate Reaching Stormwind Trigger
- Introduction Cinematic Added (Skippable)
- Now the Difficulty Warning is shown before Introduction

Alleria Updated:
- Owl Scout (more Movement Speed)
- Wolf Companion
- Trueshot Aura
- Triple Arrows
- Now Alleria say that they must find Danath and Turalyon

06/21/2015 Updates:

- Turalyon, Danath, Ending Cinematics (Skippable)
- Different Description in quests and Loading Screen

Map updated moderators! I hope you like now!

Casper the Friend said:

Map updated moderators! I hope you like now!

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you need to wait for 2 or 3 days to review. They will test it first.

Sure, sure...

This map was nice to play, not difficult to go through and still fun but there are some things that need to be improved:

• C is a hotkey for both the Scout and Wold Companion
• Map ends are visibile becouse of lack of the end's shadow
• The environment is strange (I don't know if it looked like this in the Warcraft II map, but it looks really awkward when you have 1851357 flowers around one point and the rest is empty, also the tiles could use a little bit of improvement
• There are several points that are visible since thier reveal, I know that you used visibility modifiers, but destroy them after a few seconds, so it isn't kept revealed for the rest of the game
• Pathing - this isn't really your fault, but if you order your units to get behind the river to Stormwind, they will go wrong direction and end up in a wall, I don't know why or how to remove it

Otherwise, your heroes can't ever reach 6 and thier other abilities could use a little bit of difference, so it would be more fun

Thanks for your review. I like to put a lot of flowers around the Altar to make like a holy and good place to stay. As I did in the Rock Archway, just for the player notice that is a kind and good village. And I tried to make a map more precisely as the map in WarCraft II, since they doesn't have too much things to make it lag. You can't see flowers, shrubs, cattails and other stuff in WC2 maps. As well you can notice that i've put Grassy Dirt in the map, to represent plantations in the villages. Ah, and the rocks inside Stormwind were added to give an impression of street roads. How does only grass (WC2) can make a city looks like a city? And I didn't simply added new units, as they're based in the techtree of WC2 Orcs Units (not including Marine Units):

Peon, Grunt, Axe Thrower - Berserker, Catapult, Ogre Warrior - Ogre Magi, Goblin Sapper, Goblin Zeppelin, Death Knight (Skeletons from Raise the Dead) and Dragon. I didin't saw any "special" unit for Orcish Horde

Techtree WC2 Human (not including Marine Units):

Peasant, Footman, Elven Archer - Ranger, Ballista, Knight - Paladin, Gnome Demolition Squad, Goblin Gyrocopter, Mage and Gryphon Rider.

And yet I don't know why my map is so bad? I've seen maps posted here that barely have a "Quest" description and were votted for Approval. I remember a map I've downloaded here sort of Hero Arena that the name of the creeps were copy and past of another game.

And yes Apipek It does look like the Map in WarCraft 2, that's why is simple and that's why I tried to make the more realistic I could. WC2 MAP: . MY MAP: . And, I don't know why it happened (about the Pathing). I'll try to get better on this one. Fix the thing I must. Luckly my fearing problem was with the Triggering. And since no one is talking of it...I'll try get a better terrain. And for the Heroes can't reach lvl 6...I didn't played the entire Beyond the Dark Portal, but I maybe continue making maps and If remember well, all heroes are united in the last mission. And they'll be lvl 6,7 or 8 at max. And so the "Ultimate" ability will be learnt.

You should take great care when you copy other games because Warcraft is pretty much different and sometimes exceptions have to be done for the sake of an acceptable gameplay. The maps you mentioned must be from 2004 - 2013 when the Map Submission Rules were still not strictly applied and even "No description" maps were approved. Now, because of these maps, the quality standard has risen and we map reviewers have become more rigid when it comes to rules. Eventually, it's not a matter of "your map is good or bad" but "is your map good enough to satisfy the minimal quality standards for approval?"

I simply don't copy a game and put it on a WC3 map, all I can do is a tribute. It's what I did here. A tribute to WC2 map. I've played the campaign Warcraft II that I downloaded here, and I would like to see the Beyond the Dark Portal here one day. That's why I've made this map.

Considering it's a slightly modified remake of the wc2-btdp mission with the same name, I appreciate the faithful recreation of the terrain (the only true exception being the bridges). As the original lacked all sorts of decorations, I also think that the choice of not exceeding with the decoration of the terrain is totally consistent for a remake.

In light of this, and of a test of the map added to a reading of the reviewers' comments, I say I personally like the wc2 remake potential in this map, and the only thing I find a little "wrong" is adding wc3 abilities and mechanics

Cuore said:

Considering it's a slightly modified remake of the wc2-btdp mission with the same name, I appreciate the faithful recreation of the terrain (the only true exception being the bridges). As the original lacked all sorts of decorations, I also think that the choice of not exceeding with the decoration of the terrain is totally consistent for a remake.

In light of this, and of a test of the map added to a reading of the reviewers' comments, I say I personally like the wc2 remake potential in this map, and the only thing I find a little "wrong" is adding wc3 abilities and mechanics

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Thanks for your review. But since this map was Rejected in the Old Hive I stopped working on it. But you got my idea in this map, a loyal rework from the WC2 Map.

Speaking of mechanics and abilities, the game evolves and it was hard for me to create a set of abilities to Alleria and Danath, since they're only "auto-attackers" special unit. Turalyon was different since he represents the Paladins.

But my true work was the cinematics and the conditions of the quests.

Anyway, perhaps with your review I feel motivated to work hard on this map, getting it better.

Thanks so much!