Map is not symetric. You should really work on that.

I made this map with non-symmetry in mind, to keep it a bit random with the chaos that 24 player maps usually give.
No player should be in a position where they will get an obvious advantage thought.

LordDz said:

I made this map with non-symmetry in mind, to keep it a bit random with the chaos that 24 player maps usually give.
No player should be in a position where they will get an obvious advantage thought.

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Yes, but it would be nice if everything was symmetrical so each player has a easy advantage, so each player position is equal.

Hello all!

I had to chime in this discussion: Making a melee map symmetrical shouldn't be obligatory. It's just a common practice for competitive maps. Authors shouldn't be forced to make maps like this everytime, they can make them different if they want to - while recognizing it probably won't be a good competitive melee map.

I do enjoy asymmetrical melee a lot (I even have one uploaded here myself), and I don't think people should be denied to upload asymmetrical maps, because if we look closely we even have (6) Jungle Fever and (6) Andorhal in our default Frozen Throne melee maps folder:



Now about this map (24) Harvesting Operations: it's not an... exciting map. Terrain serves it's practical purpose of providing the physical space to the battle, but nothing more. There could've been some eye-candy! And also more interesting routes/paths, like in these examples above. The tile variation work does look good, I'll give you that.

Another important thing for competitive maps is to make the trees around the main gold mine of the player more narrow, so he/she can block it off with buildings early game and protect their gold-mining workers from Blademaster harass in the very first minutes (like how this player is trying to do it here).

Thanks for the feedback, I'll tweak the map with it

Altered melee and melee tags are oposite, your map is altered melee so please remove the melee tag

melee means normal play, removing towers makes it altered

The map is not saved with the latest melee patch (map options) meaning not all heroes available in the Tavern.
Meagre changes to be called altered melee. Here's how it's done:
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In terms of melee, maybe it could work as FFA but you'd have to balance things as much as possible and no non-melee things like removing towers and using a Goblin Shredder as a neutral hostile unit.
Some camps drop an awful lot of items.
The terrain is mostly flat.
Why place creeps so far from the mines?
A Granite Golem didn't drop anything and neither its buddies in the south-west.
Too much gold in the mines.
Ghosts should not be alone if they drop items and they certainly shouldn't drop items because they have the Possession ability.
Casters should not be placed in front of a neutral camp.
Some creep camp positioning seems to be kind of random. Might want to mirror them how you can on this map's design.

Awaiting Update.


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