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1283 C.E. v1.0

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1283 C.E.
v1.0

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Introduction

This is 11:11 minutes long single player historical cinematic with historical facts representing eastern europe times back to 1283 common era, when christians sent Teutonic Knights upon pagan Lithuania very first time. Cinematic shows events from pagan's point of view. Main thought of cinematic is that christianity has set a distance between human and nature, dealing harm to human's existence.

Cinematic contains massive amount of sounds imported, mainly voice recordings. That is the reason for its size.


Story

1283 common era, summer, Lithuanian land. Struggle between Lithuanian pagans and christians already lasted for nearly three hundreds of years. Missioner's failure to spread christianity among pagan village people resulted in brutal confrontation, which provoked a very first strike upon Lithuania by Teutonic Order. Christianity has pushed out pure and vital beliefs to human, causing human to lose one's sight and wander away from close connection with nature.

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Loading Screen: Spartipilo

Music: Battleforge: Viridya's Demise; Giantsbane

Sounds: From all over the internet

Voice: by APproject
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Keywords:
Cinematic, common, era, 1283, lithuania, middle, age, teutonic, order, pagan, paganism, history, historical, facts, approject, idol, medieval, middle-
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1283 C.E. v1.0 (Map)

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Vengeancekael: Private Message Date: 2011/Oct/29 22:51:01 Reasons: Other: Comment: Review: Story&Writing: You've based your map on true events from the past, about crusaders and christianity being spread all over the world, it's nothing...

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Date: 2011/Oct/29 22:51:01

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Story&Writing:

You've based your map on true events from the past, about crusaders and christianity being spread all over the world, it's nothing original original, of course not, but still really well executed. You also represent the very brutal violence in some of the scenes, like cavaliers killing small children as well.
The writing isn't fabulous, nothing philosophically written, also a few grammar errors, but overall acceptable.

Camera:

Excellent camera work, you can see everything important in a scene, the movement's smooth, but I would suggest is add some really sudden/intense camera movements, like when a cavalier is about to kill one of those children, move the camera really fast to the unit and maybe add slow motion for his death animation.

Terrain:

Excellent work, the village looks very much like the villages from back then, your house model choice is fitting, the footmen and cavaliers have rather matching armor sets, unless they are all made by one person.
The environment is very natural looking, nice height variation, filled terrain with grass, shrubbery, etc.
But I would suggest is make the scene from the beginning of the cinematic where the narrator is talking very swamp-like with a thick green fog. Or just add some animations to the existing scene, like frogs jumping around, people walking past, a messenger running by, etc.
It would also be nice to add multiple environmental scenes in the beginning, because due to the narrator talking for so long, it can get boring rather fast to look at the same shot the whole time.

Other:

Neat loading screen image and preview image, a well written map description as well.
Suggestions:

*Make the transition titles ('two weeks later', etc.) fade in/out faster
*Make the narrator part in the beginning shorter

Overall:

A very well executed cinematic based on true events from the past, a neat terrain, but there's always room for improvement.
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Thanks for approving. I'm glad you're interested. :)

I do not approve of any forcing of religion upon people, and I am an agnostic atheist, but I don't think Paganism was based on strong links to nature, more so ritual and sacrifice which kills innocent people. They believed in false deities which they thought came in mortal form as Lightning, Fire, etc, and without sacrifice, they would punish the Pagan people.

Good execution, very interesting cinematic. You definitely need to improve your English, get someone to proof-read it for you.
 
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I do not approve of any forcing of religion upon people, and I am an agnostic atheist, but I don't think Paganism was based on strong links to nature, more so ritual and sacrifice which kills innocent people. They believed in false deities which they thought came in mortal form as Lightning, Fire, etc, and without sacrifice, they would punish the Pagan people.

Good execution, very interesting cinematic. You definitely need to improve your English, get someone to proof-read it for you.

It's just a cinematic dude
 
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They believed in false deities...

That's a bit of a harsh religious judgement man, the Faith of a person/people should not be judged by others as false, especially on a site like this that lives off of people working together and putting aside their differences. (happy Hallmark moment i know,right?) Also that is pretty much perfectly the mindset behind those who perpetrated the atrocities of the Crusades (as well as most Wars)= Soldiers & "common" folk are told that the enemy are basically "sub-human" and that their beliefs are "False and Evil" and pretty much the "cause of all of your problems in life so just kill them and be Happy Forever!" where as in Reality, the Rich and Royal (usually one and the same) simply are greedy and want their lands/resources/women/some other petty crap(especially historically in the case of most of the Teutons). Yes, there has been plenty of evidence found for many Pagan Religions being violent/sacrificial based... just like almost every old Religion and society. Yes, the Crusades were a Holocaust/ Jihad type event in human history that caused untold suffering and setbacks for mankind. All of human history is filled with total Brutality and Suffering... usually based upon people not attempting to compromise.


For the most part these days, we aren't forced to believe certain ways to survive, if we don't agree with someone/something... we just disagree, doesn't mean that we have to go on the offensive and attack that belief though...

(For the record though... the Teutons did have some of the most well crafted, beautiful, and Bad Ass looking armor ever!)
 
Ahh, thats why you needed those teutonic models so bad. First I was like wtf Lithuania, who would ever do a cinematic about Lithuania other than lithuanian. Now I know where are you from :)

However I'd rather see about Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth :p

I do not approve of any forcing of religion upon people, and I am an agnostic atheist, but I don't think Paganism was based on strong links to nature, more so ritual and sacrifice which kills innocent people. They believed in false deities which they thought came in mortal form as Lightning, Fire, etc, and without sacrifice, they would punish the Pagan people.

Yeah right, and they ate babies. They were religions, like all of them, with some good and some bad, it's not that one is superior to another. But ofc today's Church will try to talk bad about it to justify their actions.
 
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I do not approve of any forcing of religion upon people, and I am an agnostic atheist, but I don't think Paganism was based on strong links to nature, more so ritual and sacrifice which kills innocent people. They believed in false deities which they thought came in mortal form as Lightning, Fire, etc, and without sacrifice, they would punish the Pagan people.

I am christian meself, but I do not believe in it, I am more like atheist, who believe in power of human's mind, but I'm also sure about vital connection with nature. Scientifically it doesn't make any sense, but deeper look is needed. Pagansim was based on strong connection with nature, it is basis of pagansim. They weren't sacrificing humans, only some goats (At least in eastern europe, perhaps mostly aztecs did). As Mechanical Man mentioned, each religion has bad and good, paganism's cons would be only sacrificion and belief in elements perhaps, rest was truly necessary to human's existence. Now boundary is being set between true and false. I may lack in arguments, but I've read some books from great minds and it all made sense.

That's a bit of a harsh religious judgement man, the Faith of a person/people should not be judged by others as false, especially on a site like this that lives off of people working together and putting aside their differences. (happy Hallmark moment i know,right?) Also that is pretty much perfectly the mindset behind those who perpetrated the atrocities of the Crusades (as well as most Wars)= Soldiers & "common" folk are told that the enemy are basically "sub-human" and that their beliefs are "False and Evil" and pretty much the "cause of all of your problems in life so just kill them and be Happy Forever!" where as in Reality, the Rich and Royal (usually one and the same) simply are greedy and want their lands/resources/women/some other petty crap(especially historically in the case of most of the Teutons). Yes, there has been plenty of evidence found for many Pagan Religions being violent/sacrificial based... just like almost every old Religion and society. Yes, the Crusades were a Holocaust/ Jihad type event in human history that caused untold suffering and setbacks for mankind. All of human history is filled with total Brutality and Suffering... usually based upon people not attempting to compromise.


For the most part these days, we aren't forced to believe certain ways to survive, if we don't agree with someone/something... we just disagree, doesn't mean that we have to go on the offensive and attack that belief though...

(For the record though... the Teutons did have some of the most well crafted, beautiful, and Bad Ass looking armor ever!)

Thank you for your strict opinion.

Ahh, thats why you needed those teutonic models so bad. First I was like wtf Lithuania, who would ever do a cinematic about Lithuania other than lithuanian. Now I know where are you from :)

However I'd rather see about Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth :p

Hehe, well you're right. I was in need of those really badly, but it is pain in the butt to get this kind of request. My first intention was to create RPG-like map based on this, but I decided to make cinematic, because it is way easier and better interpretation of what I am trying to say.

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Thank you for your comments and discussions.
 
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Actually, Christianity started out with sacrifices like everyone else, but dropped that as they needed to remove such mundane annoyances before they started calling everyone a sinner. That was animals though, but Abraham almost did sacrifice his son to God's amusement so I suppose you can count that.

Human sacrifice was arguably committed by the Norse (according to a supposed neutral arab), but the celts and others seem very unlikely, as this information can usually be traced back to Roman propaganda, with no actual physical proof. Human sacrifice is common in countries with harsh climates that can change overnight and where the quality of crops was more critical. The norse sacrificed thralls (slaves) so their reason was to get into more fights and enslave more people.

I strongly oppose missionaries, but they are pale in comparison to the Teutonic Order, who tried to enforce religion not through argument but through violence. I believe this "film", if you will, has less to do with religion and more to do with what is wrong with trying to force your own world view upon others in a general sense.
 
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That's a bit of a harsh religious judgement man, the Faith of a person/people should not be judged by others as false, especially on a site like this that lives off of people working together and putting aside their differences. (happy Hallmark moment i know,right?) Also that is pretty much perfectly the mindset behind those who perpetrated the atrocities of the Crusades (as well as most Wars)= Soldiers & "common" folk are told that the enemy are basically "sub-human" and that their beliefs are "False and Evil" and pretty much the "cause of all of your problems in life so just kill them and be Happy Forever!" where as in Reality, the Rich and Royal (usually one and the same) simply are greedy and want their lands/resources/women/some other petty crap(especially historically in the case of most of the Teutons). Yes, there has been plenty of evidence found for many Pagan Religions being violent/sacrificial based... just like almost every old Religion and society. Yes, the Crusades were a Holocaust/ Jihad type event in human history that caused untold suffering and setbacks for mankind. All of human history is filled with total Brutality and Suffering... usually based upon people not attempting to compromise.


For the most part these days, we aren't forced to believe certain ways to survive, if we don't agree with someone/something... we just disagree, doesn't mean that we have to go on the offensive and attack that belief though...

(For the record though... the Teutons did have some of the most well crafted, beautiful, and Bad Ass looking armor ever!)

In my estimation, God, Allah, Buddha, they are all false deities. I make no discrimination, it's just that Paganism has already been proven to be a barbaric and shortsighted religion, equally, or more so than Christianity and Islam. But this is simply my opinion, and I would not force my beliefs on someone else, or deem them undesirable because of their religion.
 
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I strongly oppose missionaries, but they are pale in comparison to the Teutonic Order, who tried to enforce religion not through argument but through violence. I believe this "film", if you will, has less to do with religion and more to do with what is wrong with trying to force your own world view upon others in a general sense.

Missionaries were doing primary work - trying to agitate, gather more people to be baptized. Denial to be baptized opened an opportunity for Teutonic Knights. It is like behind missionaries stands a bunch of heavy armored knights, who steps in in case of denial. Missionaries and Teutonics are the same christians, just their role in christianity adoptation is different. Teutonics weren't less devout than missionaries themselves and I am sure they had same opinion about heathens.
This cinematic could be interpreted in few subjects. Trying to force your own view is wrong, slaughtering people with different attitude is also wrong, christianity has set distance between nature and human, dealing harm to primal human nature.
Thank you for your thoughts and opinion.

In my estimation, God, Allah, Buddha, they are all false deities. I make no discrimination, it's just that Paganism has already been proven to be a barbaric and shortsighted religion, equally, or more so than Christianity and Islam.

God is not separate, Allah, Buddha, Christ and others are one and same god with different name, but I must agree that deities are false, there is no true religion, because religion itself is just an illusion to strengthen human's will with strong beliefs to be guided by god. Paganism may be marked with brutal activity - animals / humans sacrifice, but pagans were closest to the nature, and close touch with nature is needed for human existence. Reincarnation may sound silly, but it is possible only by keeping close touch with nature. People who are distant from nature are lost from primal need, wrong beliefs would mislead soul and it would never come back into mortal form again. That is my opinion.
 
Hehe, well you're right. I was in need of those really badly, but it is pain in the butt to get this kind of request. My first intention was to create RPG-like map based on this, but I decided to make cinematic, because it is way easier and better interpretation of what I am trying to say.

Although the cinematic itself didn't provide much action, it was nice because of the voice acting and so on, but the text/narration parts with static camera felt a bit boring. Yes, it was better idea than rpg, if you wanted depict something smaller and make it in decent time.

So... can we expect in future something about I suggested in previous post? :D
 
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Missionaries were doing primary work - trying to agitate, gather more people to be baptized. Denial to be baptized opened an opportunity for Teutonic Knights. It is like behind missionaries stands a bunch of heavy armored knights, who steps in in case of denial. Missionaries and Teutonics are the same christians, just their role in christianity adoptation is different. Teutonics weren't less devout than missionaries themselves and I am sure they had same opinion about heathens.
This cinematic could be interpreted in few subjects. Trying to force your own view is wrong, slaughtering people with different attitude is also wrong, christianity has set distance between nature and human, dealing harm to primal human nature.
Thank you for your thoughts and opinion.



God is not separate, Allah, Buddha, Christ and others are one and same god with different name, but I must agree that deities are false, there is no true religion, because religion itself is just an illusion to strengthen human's will with strong beliefs to be guided by god. Paganism may be marked with brutal activity - animals / humans sacrifice, but pagans were closest to the nature, and close touch with nature is needed for human existence. Reincarnation may sound silly, but it is possible only by keeping close touch with nature. People who are distant from nature are lost from primal need, wrong beliefs would mislead soul and it would never come back into mortal form again. That is my opinion.

I agree with everything excepting, the closeness to nature. I don't believe there is any supernatural power in nature, there are planets with grass and green plants like ours out there in the distance of the universe, are they deities also? Though I do agree with should take better care of the planet, lest it die on us.

I am sorry for turning a thread about your map into an anti-religious rant. I will return to the topic.
 
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but the text/narration parts with static camera felt a bit boring

I agree, it lacks camera variations.

So... can we expect in future something about I suggested in previous post? :D

Well I cannot guarantee 100%, but of course I might think about it. Maybe I may recreate one of polish-lithuania united battles, 1410 c.e. Battle of Grunwald is very notable.

I agree with everything excepting, the closeness to nature. I don't believe there is any supernatural power in nature, there are planets with grass and green plants like ours out there in the distance of the universe, are they deities also? Though I do agree with should take better care of the planet, lest it die on us.

It is not about deities, it is about how close one is to nature, how soul is close to it. We all are animals, part of this planet, we shouldn't create two different worlds in one. Same matter on other planets. I do respect your opinion though.

I am sorry for turning a thread about your map into an anti-religious rant. I will return to the topic.

No, it is alright, I was hoping to begin this kind of discussions, would be even better if more people would join.
 
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Hello,

This is overall a nice cinematic, it has got an interesting subject, custom models, voice acting and all that stuff...

However, like said before, it could use more camera variations. Also, although the voices were otherwise just fine, "expressions" were, well, should I say "uninspiring"?

As for the religion issues, one should respect other religions apart from one's own as well. They're a significant part of different cultures.

Rating: 4/5
 
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Also, although the voices were otherwise just fine, "expressions" were, well, should I say "uninspiring"?

Hehe, it may lack in deep emotions, but there is a little of anger & loathe while dialogue, rest acts were more like confessions by pagan or pointing out historical facts, so it basically didn't need emotions, exacept for dialogue, maybe dialogue could be more inspiring, I agree.

As for the religion issues, one should respect other religions apart from one's own as well. They're a significant part of different cultures.

Nowdays religions globally respect each other, even though there might be some people who don't, bigger part do. Tolerance is notable these days, unlikely in middle-age. Middle-age weren't tolerant times, different religion cultures were the greatest enemies.

Thank you for the rating.

A cinematic too, or something else? Anyway I wanted to ask you what were lithuanian special force, some sort of unique unit?

Hmm, probably cinematic as well. Currently I am on other project so it may have to wait for a bit. Hmm, I don't think lithuania had anything very unique. Maybe Winged Hussars, there is the picture of Winged Hussar, but it was from polish side. But polish-lithuanian commonwealth had these hussars included so it counted as one force.


Thank you.
 
Hmm, probably cinematic as well. Currently I am on other project so it may have to wait for a bit. Hmm, I don't think lithuania had anything very unique. Maybe Winged Hussars, there is the picture of Winged Hussar, but it was from polish side. But polish-lithuanian commonwealth had these hussars included so it counted as one force.

I know that, but I wanted something of Lithuania specialty.
 
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Dude, your maps are one of the bests I've tried out in the hive (including your cinematic maps)...I'm gonna try this one out if my DL speed wasn't so f***ng low

, + rep to you friend!!

EDIT: I didn't know Mechanical Man was still going to the hive? How are you friend? Got any new musketeer or arquebus models working on?
 
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im from lithuania :D, im gonna check this out.

Hehe, glad to see another lithuanian.

I know that, but I wanted something of Lithuania specialty.

Hm, I can't remember any exceptional unit at the moment, well they weren't very notable or exceptional, just typical ones.

Dude, your maps are one of the bests I've tried out in the hive (including your cinematic maps)...I'm gonna try this one out if my DL speed wasn't so f***ng low

, + rep to you friend!!

Wow, I'm happy to hear it. I'm glad our taste matched. :)
 
Review:

Story&Writing:

You've based your map on true events from the past, about crusaders and christianity being spread all over the world, it's nothing original original, of course not, but still really well executed. You also represent the very brutal violence in some of the scenes, like cavaliers killing small children as well.
The writing isn't fabulous, nothing philosophically written, also a few grammar errors, but overall acceptable.

Camera:

Excellent camera work, you can see everything important in a scene, the movement's smooth, but I would suggest is add some really sudden/intense camera movements, like when a cavalier is about to kill one of those children, move the camera really fast to the unit and maybe add slow motion for his death animation.

Terrain:

Excellent work, the village looks very much like the villages from back then, your house model choice is fitting, the footmen and cavaliers have rather matching armor sets, unless they are all made by one person.
The environment is very natural looking, nice height variation, filled terrain with grass, shrubbery, etc.
But I would suggest is make the scene from the beginning of the cinematic where the narrator is talking very swamp-like with a thick green fog. Or just add some animations to the existing scene, like frogs jumping around, people walking past, a messenger running by, etc.
It would also be nice to add multiple environmental scenes in the beginning, because due to the narrator talking for so long, it can get boring rather fast to look at the same shot the whole time.

Other:

Neat loading screen image and preview image, a well written map description as well.
Suggestions:

*Make the transition titles ('two weeks later', etc.) fade in/out faster
*Make the narrator part in the beginning shorter

Overall:

A very well executed cinematic based on true events from the past, a neat terrain, but there's always room for improvement.

Rating: 4/5
 
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You also represent the very brutal violence in some of the scenes, like cavaliers killing small children as well.
Hehe, well it was necessary in order to brighten Teutons' violnet behavior.

The writing isn't fabulous, nothing philosophically written,
I just pointed out some facts, pagan and christian points of view and all philosophical part were left for the spectator, hope it worked. According to comments above I think it worked.

but I would suggest is add some really sudden/intense camera movements, like when a cavalier is about to kill one of those children, move the camera really fast to the unit and maybe add slow motion for his death animation.
I had my thoughts of making such quick camera movmeents while cinematic was not even begun to create. But I didn't make it, probably due to lack of effort. It truly lacks in camera variantions, I may improve those once I would be out of map ideas.

But I would suggest is make the scene from the beginning of the cinematic where the narrator is talking very swamp-like with a thick green fog. Or just add some animations to the existing scene, like frogs jumping around, people walking past, a messenger running by, etc.
It would also be nice to add multiple environmental scenes in the beginning, because due to the narrator talking for so long, it can get boring rather fast to look at the same shot the whole time.
I must agree, especially the beginning lacks in cameras. But my primal intention was to show silent, clam and untouched nature.

Thank you for the review and rating.
 
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Nice Good Job
Nice cinematic indeed :)
Thanks, guys.
I think it will even greater if the cross helmets is rescaled to fit the Knights' body.
It may look more realistic, but not better in this case I think. Helmet is the only true sign of Tautonic Order, so I think in this case it is no big deal about its size, bigger helm brightens who they are. Knight itself is quite problematic, because Head attatchment point is actually over head and a bit forward it, so helm doesn't look good in knight from every angle, except front.
 
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firstly to cinematic

Well, the plot was quite original, according to "fantasy-all-the-time" which is still arround here.

But the rest was...not so good, boring, boring and again boring. Also the terrain was average, nothing special about this cin, really. Like 2/5 from me.



secondly (and little bit OT): "God is not separate, Allah, Buddha, Christ and others are one and same god with different name"

Buddha is no god in any religion, not even in budhism (it has no gods at all).

And thirdly: It is no "common era" or "C.E.", it is called "Anno domini" or "AD" in english. So you can fix it.
 
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Common Era [...], abbreviated as CE, is an alternative designation for the calendar era originally introduced by Dionysius Exiguus in the 6th century, traditionally identified with Anno Domini (abbreviated AD).

Could you also be more specific about the downrating of the map? Be more specific about the terrain, the action, the voice acting, anything, it doesn't have to be a review, just some small points.

And please do refrain from using words like "scumbag" in the future.
 
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A cinematic too, or something else? Anyway I wanted to ask you what were lithuanian special force, some sort of unique unit?

Well, our riders played the main role in our armies then. The infantry wasn't very important. Usually a noble on horseback had a page and a squire who followed him as well as a few archers on horseback(or on foot). Such a group was called a spear. 20-25 spears made up a flag. A few flags made up an army.

At least according to this wikipedia page :D
http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lietuv...iuomenė#Lietuvi.C5.B3_karo_.C5.BEygiai_XIII_a.

So if we do have a unique unit, it's a rider. I have heard some theries about a type of riders called "Vytis", which is somewhat likely, since such a knight(a grand duke) is depicted on our coat of arms.

Make of that what you will. I might have made some mistakes, since history of those times is rather vague and unclear. And because the keyboard of this computer im using right now is strange.
 
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A short story I read: "a young lady bought and read a book. When she finished, she laid it aside, and made a mental note that it was the dullest book she had ever read. Not long after that, she met a young man, and in the course of time their friendship ripened into love. Then one night she said, "I have a book at my home that was written by a man whose name is exactly like yours. Isn't that a coincidence?" Upon learning the name of the book, the young man told her that he had written the book. That very night, when the young lady returned home, she took the book down from the shelf and reread it from beginning to end. This time she found it to be the most interesting book she had ever read. Why the difference? It was because this time she knew and loved the author. And so it is with the scriptures-you will enjoy them more as you learn to know and love the author."
I think that it is possible to be close to nature and be faithful. The best example I can think of is Tom Brown, Jr. {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Brown_(naturalist)} I was reading one of his books (http://www.amazon.com/Browns-Guide-Edible-Medicinal-Plants/dp/0425100634#_) and I noticed that a large portion of this book was about the creator and communication with nature. I know this doesn’t make much scientific sense, but I think if you give it a chance, you will see things differantly.
 
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I think that it is possible to be close to nature and be faithful. The best example I can think of is Tom Brown, Jr. I was reading one of his books and I noticed that a large portion of this book was about the creator and communication with nature. I know this doesn’t make much scientific sense, but I think if you give it a chance, you will see things differantly.
I agree, it is truly possible. But it was not what christianity was doing back then.
Hey man, mind if I use some parts of your map for a video I'm making? The terrain is just amazing and I felt like putting it on one of my videos, don't worry I'll give you credit :)
Of course, go ahead.
 

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Christianity or better written, no sane religion has anything to do with having to kill, not even Islam (I know here there are many debates but on the long run, no). It's its corrupt "followers"/heretics that are to blame for manipulation and power abuse. Needless to remind how many primitive religions (polytheistic) "required" sacrifices and had gods of war and death in their pantheons. I'm not saying Romuva and its roots were not peaceful but just to not make it look like a generalization that Christianity as a religion is to blame for atrocities, we have to understand that everything is done by people.
Village purging is older than medieval times and most times it they were not religion based but resource and animal instinct satisfying.

I suggest a movie: the Mission (1986).

-it seems one monk had a short second thought to return but was quickly directed on the "right" path
-two weeks later: there was still blood on the ground in the village
-OK, so there's then a scene with a kid in red a bit far from a burning house and that's how the cinematic mode stays; behind him, there's a bench and in front a bit to his left a wooden tool for animals to drink water from

3/5.
 
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