Warcraft: A New Dawn

[Masiah]

...expanding on something that has been mentioned already.

Balance issues will pop up anyways...

Thanks for the rep anyways.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Yes, yes and your welcome

The balance issues would be tenfold as bad, think how much play testing you'd have to do? How many combinations are there and tactics within those combos?

That's all, I guess it "could" work otherwise.

 

[Modhell]

We've disregarded both, it causes way to many balance issues, kudos for the attempt, but you might want to flick through what you've missed next time

Perhaps all ideas with potential should be updated in the first post for scrutiny and to make it easy to keep up to date with where things stand, there are alot of pages on this thread already.

and ok, I will look at doing a demon vs human picture

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Agreed, flat "Idea" update tab?

 

[The World Is Flat]

Weh you play in melee, you select the remnants, and a diaouge will show, so you can either choose to start as the survior peeps or the Thereamorian Coalition.

no, the race choosing thing wnt work... too complex, too hard to balance, and too many models.

{EDIT}
rofl. sry if i was hard. its a good idea, but too hard to execute.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

UPDATE:

Racial Heroes

--------------------------------------------------------->

RACES
_______


HORDE

FORSAKEN

LEGION

ALLIANCE - Subfactioned.

-Remnant
-State of Theramore

OUTLAND

SENTINEL

--------------------------------------------------------->

CHARACTERS
____________

DUROTAR/HORDE

-> Thrall

-> Cairne

-> Nazgrel

-> Rexxar

-> Drek'Thar

-> Vol'jin/Rho'khan

--------------------------------------------------------->

ALLIANCE

-> Jaina

-> Dwarf Mechanic and General (Theramore)

-> Darius (Remnant)

->

--------------------------------------------------------->

FORSAKEN

-> Sylvanas

-> Varimathras (Mouseman89)

--------------------------------------------------------->

SENTINEL

-> Tyrande

-> Malfurion

-> Maiev

-> Shandris

---------------------------------------------------------->

BURNING LEGION

-> Sargeras (Unplayable)

-> Kil'Jaedin (Unplayable)

-> Lord Rhoggeir, a powerful Dhom’Kavosh

->(Various Dreadlords?)

->(Various Eredar Warlocks)

->(Various Pit Lords)

->(Other Demonic Entities)

--------------------------------------------------------->

THE SCOURGE

-> Arthas/Lich King

-> Anub'Arak

-> Kel'Thuzad

 

[mouseman89]

for forsakem: Varithimas

 

[mouseman89]

maiev went into outlands and wasnt seen after she nearly captured illidan...

 

[Grey Nightmare]

maiev went into outlands and wasnt seen after she nearly captured illidan...

She is still effectively part of the Sentinel wherever she is.

 

[mouseman89]

well, shes in outlands >.> but wasnt she going to be imprisoned for betraying Tyrande?

 

[Grey Nightmare]

well, shes in outlands >.> but wasnt she going to be imprisoned for betraying Tyrande?

Play the game and find out! When it's done ofc...

DIRECTOR UPDATE: PLAYABLE RACE INFO, ADDED!

 

[Latecat]

Looking good atm.
Sorry if i haven't been much of use, got some exams irl.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Alliance:

Velen ?
Jared Mace ?


NPC's:

Kalec
Krasus
Tyragosa


Anyway, I'm interested in joining for 3D modeling, although nothing has been released yet if this is possible

T.

Burning Legion:

Trag ( the undead version )

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Fantastic, we could use some modellers, I'll get TWIF to talk to you ASAP.

As for those characters, were disregarding WoW lore, it says this in the main thread post. But thanks for the heads up.

 

[The World Is Flat]

You could easily be approved for modeling, do you have any to show us? what are your skills?

 

[Grey Nightmare]

DIRECTOR VOTE: Taylor Mouse, 3D modeller application, APPROVED!

I checked out your resources and albums, fantastic stuff, lots of potential.

Now let's see what TWIF, thinks

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Thanks guys, now tell me, what can I start on.

TWIF, i responded to your msg, thnx

T.

 

[The World Is Flat]

Alright, i checked your stuff out aswell. I guess your APPROVED. Welcome.

I have sent you a VM.

{EDIT}
And i responded to yours. Good to have you. Welcome to the team. Adding.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

DIRECTOR UPDATE: Moddb page submitted, news article submitted, events listed - awaiting approval.

~ Thanks for your continued support, guys!

 

[mouseman89]

you could make the scourge playable, in the campaign, say the lich king was killed, or nearly the scourge is weakened and must regain thier strength or defend against an invasion or whatever.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

you could make the scourge playable, in the campaign, say the lich king was killed, or nearly the scourge is weakened and must regain thier strength or defend against an invasion or whatever.

Nice suggestion.

However, we trying our absolute utmost to bring you all, the best possible combination of fascinating, balanced rts gameplay, breathtaking visuals and a compelling story - although I don't want to spoil too much - we will not rape the storyline like WoW (e.g. kill Arthas off just for the sake of making one race playable).

Sorry if that disappoints you...

DIRECTOR NOTE: Other people with thoughts on this matter, please speak up, we will listen and try our very best to appease the majority!

 

[mouseman89]

not nessicarily have him killed, maybe badly wounded and everyone but the scourge thought he was killed, because of his wounds, maybe some of the scouge died or something and the scourge was weakened.

 

[The World Is Flat]

We are trying to have a really engaging story, and exciting gameplay. we want to make this feel like the 'real' WC4. And that kind of thing doesnt really fit in with our plans. Thants for the suggestion, but we really want to keep the story engaging and canonical, and that kind of thing, in out minds, wouldn't uphold the sanctity of the story. Thank you for your suggestion.

 

[JokeMaster]

Can i recruit my self? I'm a not so bad terrainer can make skills(no gui or jass fully object editor) and i can make models.

 

[real138]

ok guys im back. updates on UI posted tonight
wow 7 pages in 2 days. gj on the lore glad we are disregarding WoW lore.
also glad that Taylor_Mouse is joining amazing models especially loved the druid.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Haha, yes it's been hard work and late nights (due to GMT difference), but were getting somewhere! Can't wait to see the UI and we are all extremely happy to welcome Taylor to the team, he is a very skilled individual and WcIV:Sc2 will look all the better for his presence on the team.

DIRECTOR NOTICE: So many views and so few posts in comparison xD. Please guys, feedback - good or bad, first and foremost we desire to please the community of sc2/wc3 players! We need to know where you stand

 

[The World Is Flat]

@ JokeMaster

Could you give us a sample of your work?

@ Real:

Awesome man! look forward to it.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Sorry, Jokemaster - Missed your post.

Yes we would love to consider you as part of the team, I will check your resources and albums for some exemplar work, PM if you have anything else you would like to submit, I will then discuss with TWIF and decide on the outcome of your application.

 

[The World Is Flat]

Admin:

JokeMaster:

I've checked out some of your stuff, And it looks good. But i'm waiting for input from Grey.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Director

After much careful consideration, I to, think you could prove a valuable asset to the development team.

3D Modeller application, APPROVED.

Terrain application, UNAPPROVED.

Data application, UNAPPROVED.

It's not that your bad in the other two departments, but we would prefer modellers (Which we need more of at the moment) to be fully focussed, any queries with this? Please don't hesitate to reply.

 

[The World Is Flat]

ADMIN:

Upon Close consideration, I have decided:

Models: APPROVED

Terrain: UNDECIDED

GUI: UNDECIDED

The reason for the undecided status, on terraining and GUI is that we have almost no gauge of your abilites, and that, as my director stated, we need our members focused.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

DIRECTOR UPDATE: Darius' Journal Entry Four, ADDED.

 

[Reaper51]

Due to sc2 having up to 4 resources, we are thinking on what they should be. Gold, and lumber WILL stay. Any suggestions?

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Indeed, a very hot topic during our petty conferences
This could break or make Warcraft IV - Starcraft II, so we would like to know everyone's opinion on the matter...

-Overhaul everything, the resource system sucked.

-Are you fine with the traditional gold and lumber?

-Do you think there be should another one?

-Should it be common, race specific or special and rare, for elite units only.

Any thoughts at all, post away!

 

[bounty hunter2]

I got some time, and ideas in my mind if you need concept images (buildings and scenery) and perhaps icons. My old crap is here: http://bountyhunter2.deviantart.com/

I've got tons of better new stuff since I've been taking drawing lessons for architecture. Anyway I've talked to TWIF and he said that you guys need a banner so I started with that.

 

[The World Is Flat]

Thats Great. On the first page, there is a list of positions. please choose the ones you want.

 

[bounty hunter2]

Concept artist

 

[mouseman89]

you should keep gold and lumber, and add maybe diamonds, rare from gold and oil like in wc2?

 

[The World Is Flat]

No. That doesent fit with lore or our plans. we are considering adding race specific resouces.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Welcome to the team bounty hunter, your work is a credit to you, absolutely fantastic.

@Mouseman: Brilliant suggestion, however due to the nature of some lore and races we have laid down we believe oil particularly would be hard to imagine certain races using.

Daimonds is a new one though... Thanks for the feedback!

As twif mentioned, we are toying with the idea of three 'rare' resources per the 6 races, 2 using each, that will be rare and/or well guarded in melée and only required for final elite units/techs etc...

 

[mouseman89]

maybe for night elves, root/branch/twig/leaf of nordrassil?
Humans: oil for siege engines gyrocopters etc OR maybe mithril or titanium
Orcs: Ancestral staff/sword/armor/object
Forsaken: Bones/corpse of the fallen/champion/undead
Outland: some rare ore, khormite maybe?
Burning Legion: Mark of Kil'Jaedan/sargaraes(or some leader)

 

[The World Is Flat]

We have ditched the idea, and are keeping the original 2 resources.

But, we may change at any time, and are still concepting.

 

[mouseman89]

what your denying all my ideas? XD

 

[JokeMaster]

So i'm in the team as modeler Cool.Now give me a cookie!

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Well we did have 'some' miiilllk and kookeeeehs but twif ate all the latter D:
good to have you aboard anyway

@Mouseman89 lol it does seem like
that doesn't it? Sorry it honestly isn't intenional and I really hope you keep em' flowing!

EDIT: Still no word from moddb guys, they sure do take their sweet time moderating stuff -_- I'll keep you posted on that...

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Hey Jokemaster, make sure we don't work on the same thing at the same time.
I'm starting with a new Orc model, a base model so we can use that for all orc models.

and welcome on the team

cheers
T.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

DIRECTOR UPDATE: Ok we just got an email from moddb confirming they smoke crack, they have completely ignored our mod but 'archived' the first morsel of 'news' I attached to it, which from their description is similar to a semi-rejection.

I can't even begin to fathom why this is. You can find the article here but please if anybody understands how these guy's minds work, speak up because it all seems rather illogical to me...

 

[Sephalo]

This project sounds promising.
I could help on the terraining part. I'm an experienced terrainer (atleast for wc3).
I have the GE but don't have a key.
So far all the terrain I made so far (playable) was for Oakwood. Take a look at the terrain pics from there. Link.

 

[JokeMaster]

@Taylor Mouse
Hey im new here so i'm not the boss. I get a request i do it and send it to the menager. So is my style. And do you need some help? You know i have sometimes weird ideas .

 

[Grey Nightmare]

@ Teuncreemers Wow, I looked at some of your work and it does show potential, however as it was for an RPG it does have a bit of complexity about it (not that that's a bad thing) but do you think you could you whip up something for us in the GE, from an RTS point of view/camera?

It doesn't have to be warcraft related, so feel free to use all the doodads and props you desire.

If that's on par with your current work I'm confident we can offer you a place on the team, though I would also enquire the postion of "The Oakwood Forest ORPG", as this will be a long gruelling project and may require a lot of your time!

Just a forewarning there

@JokeMaster We would "like" to get a team/faction done at a time and seeing as how you've had plenty of troll practice, why don't you have a go at a 'base' troll? Though I assume you may be bored of them by now xD