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War-craft-3! - Card game

Discussion in 'Map Development' started by ZeusLT, May 11, 2011.

  1. ZeusLT

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    Map By ZeusLT



    Credits:

    TEAM:

    -ZeusLT
    -kero11
    -Hexcellion
    -Darkshooter1986


    Ideas:

    -Darkshooter1986
    for support
    -Vincent-64
    for support, awesome suggestions and card ideas
    -Hexcellion
    for card ideas
    -bloodelf300
    for card ideas
    -bhusta
    for card ideas
    -Omnom18
    for ideas
    -Darklycan51
    for support, ideas on early map dev stage
    -Drunken_Jackal aka Blindman
    for great ideas, support, card ideas
    -Miss_Foxy
    for support and ideas
    -AL0NE a.k.a. PrO_SoZaI
    for support
    -millzy
    for support
    -.VTZ.
    for support
    -Nightblade
    for awesome card ideas


    Models:

    -Blizzard
    for all the default models.

    -ZeusLT
    for card models.


    Skins:
    None.

    Spells/Triggers:
    -ZeusLT.




    Map Info:
    Players -10 [2 players and 8 watchers]
    Maps size - 64x64
    Playable Map Size: 52x52
    Tileset: Custom
    Type: Strategy
    Loading Screen - one from defaults (for now)


    Map Description:

    Ever heard of "Yu-Gi-Oh!"? So this is it's analog version in warcraft.
    It have same rules. 5 monsters, spells fields for each player and 7 card slots in hand for both players. You can summon a monster in "face up attack position" or "flip summon defense position". You can use or flip summon a spell/trap cards too. Monster can attack other monsters. Monsters cannot attack while hes in defense position. When there are none monsters guarding player, you can attack him directly.

    Monsters HP represents ATT points and MP - DEF points.

    If monster attack another monster which is in attack position:
    -If your monsters ATT is HIGHER than another monsters ATT - another monster will be destroyed and its player will get damaged.
    -If your monsters ATT is LOWER than another monsters ATT - your monster will be destroyed and you will get damaged.
    -If your monsters ATT is EQUAL to another monsters ATT - both monster will get destroyed and no damaged will be taken.

    If monster attack another monster which is in defense position:
    -If your monsters ATT is HIGHER than another monsters DEF - another monster will be destroyed and its player will NOT get damaged.
    -If your monsters ATT is LOWER than another monsters DEF - your monster will be destroyed and you will get damaged.
    -If your monsters ATT is EQUAL to another monsters DEF - nothing will happen.

    If monster attack another monster which is in flip, defense position:
    -If your monsters ATT is HIGHER than another monsters DEF - another monster will be destroyed and its player will NOT get damaged.
    -If your monsters ATT is LOWER than another monsters DEF - you will get damaged.
    -If your monsters ATT is EQUAL to another monsters DEF - nothing will happen.


    Commands:

    "-music <name>" - plays selected music.
    names - shrooms, like a bauss.

    "-music stop" - stops music.

    "-help" - shows available commands

    "-cam top" - sets cam to top field
    "-cam reset" - resets camera

    hit ESC for menu.

    In menu you can swap with other player positions, end turn, surrender, play with cameras.






    Pictures


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    Tutorial - How to add a monster OUTDATED - 1.1.x and below only

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    Other Info:

    Current version uploaded - v1.3.1
    Version working on - v1.3.5
    Versions 1.3.2-4 are bug fixes/new systems.
    Little info on how version digits should be encoded.
    vX.Y.Z - x, mega huge update, y, big update, z, bug/hot fixes/small systems/added cards. v - shortened of version :D
    Currently working on - more cards and custom decks system
    Requires at least 2 players! No bot AI yet.
    Other players cant see your cards including watchers.
    Pictures doesn't represent everything at 100%. Later I'll try to make a video.
    Game is not finished yet.
    May have some bugs. If you find one, post here.
    Multiplayer only! for now

    9 type of monsters - more to come
    1 spell - tornado. instantly screws picked unit.
    0 traps...

    I'll add more units/spells/traps. Open for suggestions.


    Change log


    05-13-2011

    Added spell block card.
    Changed avatar from shade to villager. (place holder.. ill make it choose able)

    Made possible to flip summon spells cards to field.
    Made possible to flip summon monster cards to field.


    05-13-2011

    finished attack/summon/defend systems and started Computer AI

    05-16-2011

    Attacking/summoning/drawing card systems are done

    05-18-2011

    OKay.. A really basic AI is implanted.... and honestly I played against it and lost 2 times in a row..

    05-19-2011

    Started making of customizable decks. There will be open field with all the available monster and cards. You will be able to select it and add to your deck. There will be more open fields for both player decks, they will be able to manage their decks.

    Thinking of deck load codes.

    05-19-2011

    Improved triggers and added those 4 Amphibianiod cards. Enabled tornado card.
    Almost finished custom decks.

    05-19-2011

    Kind off finished my custom decks system. All is left to limit number of cards picked. But now only 10 card types .. so .. it will have to wait.

    Triggers reworked so now easy to add card.

    Download: http://war-craft-3.weebly.com/uploads/6/5/0/9/6509584/war-craft-3_v1.3.1.w3x
    Latest version : 1.3.1

    1. Select your card in you deck ( you get pointed at start to your deck)
    2. Select - "replace with" and target unit type at last deck ( 10 card only now)
    3. build your deck how you want you got 120 sec.
    4. select your player and hit "Ready"
    5. if you wont hit ready then current deck will save and you will play with it.

    ------------------------------ Who plays on eurobattle.net contact me, acc - ZeusLT




    DOWNLOAD - http://war-craft-3.weebly.com/uploads/6/5/0/9/6509584/war-craft-3_v1.3.1.w3x


    UNDER CONSTRUCTION

    Last Update: [​IMG]



    too lazy to update there but when i can I will






    ------WANT TO HELP ME?-------



    This map is Yu-GI-Oh!-ish warcraft 3 card game. All rules are the same or similar.


    __LIST OF EFFECT TARGETS AND EFFECT TYPES___
    Priority level 1

    Guys, what can card effect?

    Player
    Both players
    single monster
    multiple monsters
    spell/trap card
    flipped spell/trap card
    flip summons
    graveyard monsters
    field slot (??? not sure if ill add this)

    What effect can do to target?

    change monsters attack points
    change monster defense points
    flip flipped card + remove effect
    switch monster to defense position
    Change player hp
    revive monster
    remove from play monster
    destroy monster
    destroy spell/trap card
    block/unblock field slot(????)
    tribute summon
    fusion summon

    Guys help me out, If I missed something write it here.


    ___________CARD IDEAS <====_________________
    Priority level 2

    What mostly I need to get ideas for cards. Spell cards, monster cards, trap cards. I want to gather as much as possible. Icon and model would be nice! have idea? Post like this in this thread:

    Name: <NAME OF CARD>
    Type: <Monster(if monster then tell me its type like - Fire/water/earth/dark/light/demon/zombie/dragon/beast/warrior/summon and does it cost any tribute to summon), spell card, trap card, fusion>
    Icon: <link to icon> (would be nice to have a image with / tags)
    Model: <link to model>
    Description: <Description of effect, damage, defense, what ever there is>
    Extra info: <have back story? awesome>

    EXAMPLE:

    Name: Berserk
    Type: Spell card
    Icon: [​IMG]
    http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/icons-541/btndarktrollberserk-210268/?prev=r=20&page=2
    Model: Target model - Berserk one from game already, card model - .. don't know ..
    Description: Allows target monster of any type to attack twice a turn. Max 1 card per deck.
    Extra info: Blood flows faster, rage in the eyes, wait for a trouble. :D


    ____________SOUNDS________________________
    Priority level 3

    Also, if you know any sounds that would fit this map, for example, "oh noooo", "haha you fell into my traps" "I summon face down" or anything like sound effect when spawning a monster or other cards.



    ___________LOADING SCREEN_________________
    Priority level 4

    And loading screen. O_O I now imagine some masterpiece of yours guys. Some Crazy looking monster with axe, bloody axe. Want to have your drawings to be noticed or something, give me, I'll give credits everyone and everywhere. Even in tool tips/quest tab/in loading screen with big letters for creator of it.


    _______________Custom UI____________________
    Priority level 5

    Want to make a a custom UI for me? would be double awesome as custom tiles, tho I'm not an artist or something so I can't imagine how would it look!


    ______________Custom tiles___________________
    Priority level 6

    Can make custom tiles? Awesome! I need custom tiles, but sadly don't know what exactly I want whit that, I know it will look awesome and current ones are too mainstream.




    ___________MORE INFO_______________________

    Here is some info to let you think better


    There are there normal cards:

    Monster cards:
    • can be Normal summoned
    • can be Flip summoned and can have effect on flip summon
      • can be switched to Attack position
      • can be switched to Defense position
    • can have effect which:
      • is always working (doesn't work when it is flip summoned)
      • works on your turn
      • works on enemy turn
      • works once on player desired time (press on ability to use effect)
      • works n times on player desired time (press on ability to use effect)

    Spell cards:
    • can be Normal summoned + effect
    • can be Flip summoned

      effect can:
      • always working (doesn't work when it is flip summoned)
      • work on your turn
      • work on enemy turn
      • work once on player desired time (press on ability to use effect)
      • work n times on player desired time (press on ability to use effect)
      • work on special event: specific card is drawn from your deck; specific card is used; when player gain health points; when any monster is destroyed; when specific monster is destroyed;

    Trap Cards:
    • can be Normal Summoned
    • can be Flip summoned
    effect works when flipped (from flip position). For example, when effect can be used it can unflip, and effect be used.
    If card is normal summoned: effect works on specific event: monster is summoned; card is placed on field; monster card is unflipped...


    And there are special cards:

    Fusion summon:
    • Tribute cards needed for fusion monster, from field or from hands.
    • Can do everything what normal monster card do. Just fusions used to be strong in some ways.
    Tribute summon:
    • Tribute any monster cards from field to summon a stronger monster.
    • It is as normal monster card just stronger in one or another way.



    Monsters have stars. Stars shows monster level.
    There are monsters 1 - 12 stars.
    Stars effect game style. for example, some spell cards district use of some level of cards.
    Level 1-4 monsters can be summoned without any tribute summon.
    Cards with more than 4 stars require tribute summon. 5-6stars - 1 monster from field; 7-9 stars - 2 monsters from field;
    Level 12 cards are super imbah, so lets just don't make any of those yet ^^



    PS: I have written everything from my head so there might be few flaws. you can suggest new game play ideas as well.


    Copied from Yu-Gi-Oh! rules

    A common rule is that Level 3 and lower monsters generally have less than 1700 ATK, Level 4 monsters have less than 2000 ATK, Level 5 monsters have less than 2500 ATK, Level 7 and Level 8 monsters have less than 3000 ATK, Level 9, Level 10s have less than 4000 ATK and Level 11 to 12 have less than 5000 ATK. Usually monsters that break this rule have penalties or special conditions, although this trend is broken by a few cards.

    Level 7 and 8 monsters are generally considered the most powerful monsters that may be reliably summoned and are usually the trump cards for whatever deck uses them. Anything higher often has extraordinary, overpowering effects or sheer ATK value, but they are also usually restricted in some other way, such as not being able to be re-summoned from the Graveyard, or stringent summoning conditions, like the Sacred Beast. A few even have paralyzing weaknesses to balance out their power, such as the "Earthbound Immortal", who all have a common effect of destroying themselves if there is no Field Spell Card on the field.


    Anything you help with is very valuable to me. You will be noted in credits.

     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2012
  2. Tutnitweh

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    Sounds good im going to test
     
  3. ZeusLT

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    Its multiplayer only so you need another player to test it.
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2011
  4. Tutnitweh

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    are you goin to create diffrend kinds of decks or that you can choose cards to make an own?
     
  5. ZeusLT

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    I was thinking of unique custom decks with limited card number and limited number of the same type cards.
    Maybe a open field where you can pick cards.
     
  6. Drunken_Jackal

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    Sounds much much like Yu-Gi-Oh!
     
  7. GhostThruster

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    It's time to D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-Duel!!!
     
  8. Miss_Foxy

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    Oh yes it's this game again, thanks for bringing it back into Development:)
    I love it so much lol, it gets addicting easily.

    PS: I was referring to the name of the game, I heard of it somewhere before...
    But anyways, this version looks rather unique, hope to see the progress!
     
  9. ZeusLT

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    Got idea for card? Tell me
     
  10. Drunken_Jackal

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    What kinds of card are there?
    Also can you tell me how the cards work?
     
  11. ZeusLT

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    For monster cards:

    I made dummy units, they can't move and they floats in air. One for hand models and other the same for field. Hand units have permanent invisibility and summon skill. Field units have attack skill, HP and MP represents ATT and DEF points they also have "switch to defense position" skill.

    Triggers sets spawn location for hands/field. I made draw card trigger which spawns dummy unit.

    When summon skill is used it removes casting unit and crates field unit.

    Similar with spell cards. just check triggers
     
  12. Drunken_Jackal

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    I opened your map, the triggers are loong. Im sure that you could shorten them a bit.
    And also, make the trainer not a shade. Maybe you could also make deck packs consisting of different monsters. Or maybe customizable decks.
     
  13. ZeusLT

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    working on it
     
  14. Miss_Foxy

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    How about some Racial Card system? Like, when all the creatures of the same race are on the field, give some bonus to them, etc.
     
  15. Drunken_Jackal

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    It does sound good. Or maybe, to make them not so overpowered, maybe it only activates when a certain card is placed or activated.
    Also, finish the adding a monster thing form in the main post.
    Lastly, what kind of cards are there asides from monster?
     
  16. Vincent-64

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    For spell and trap card, did you creat counter spell?
    For example, your monster attack an opponent monster but he is weaker. So you use a trap to increase the attack power of your monster. But the opponent use a counterspell (or countertrap) to cancel the effect of your trap.

    It may increase the strategic side of the game and prevent the misuse of certain powerful cards.

    Some ideas for card :
    Equipment to increase charateristic of monster.
    Enchantment (like magic the gathering) or magic continuous spell (like Yu-gi-ho) like : Your monsters gain +100 in attack power, when a card go to the graveyar (if the graveyar exist), his owner takes damage...
    Trap : classic trap, destroy the attacking monster...
    Defensive trap : Increase the defense of your creature, prevent damage for this turn...
    Curse trap : if a monster attack your life point, your opponent take the same amount of damage or the attack of cursed monster decrease each turn.


    I play card game since quite a few years, I have many ideas of cards^^.
    I follow the progress and good luck with your project!
     
  17. Miss_Foxy

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    There's trap, spell, tribute and etc.
    You could add more like building cards and aura cards.
     
  18. Drunken_Jackal

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    Maybe put some original stuff. Add new kinds of cards.
     
  19. ZeusLT

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    omg! Thanks for support! I will try to make as much as possible cards and if you would write down exact card ideas I will surely implant them.

    @ Vincent-64

    Awesome ideas. I'll use some of them.

    @ Miss_Foxy :
    "How about some Racial Card system? Like, when all the creatures of the same race are on the field, give some bonus to them, etc. "

    Sure will.


    I just don't want the game to become imbalanced...
     
  20. Drunken_Jackal

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    Well what card kinds are there?
    Maybe play some TCG Warcraft 3 games and learn from them especially Magic the Gathering.
    Also, customizable decks would be nice, selectable character models, city with different bots to fight, bosses, card sets (Like the Elemental Heroes in Yu-Gi-Oh!).
    Also, maybe make the life points different. Try thinking up something original. Maybe something like Hearts or something else similar which when a direct attack is laid, its subtracted by one. When there are none, then you/enemy lose.