SH v1.4 The Hunters

[[K40$]-Spectre]

A hosting bots for SH sounds nice . I never looked into it for warcraft 3. I will have to check though if I am still blocked on battle-net (probably something that I and my brother played SH with the same version / key).

As soon as you see the score-screen (e.g. after the map is won or lost or you quite the map), there is a button that says save replay. You can watch replays from the main menu (under Single Player or whatever it is called, before you can click campaign or custom game etc.).

 

[The_New_Divide]

As soon as you see the score-screen (e.g. after the map is won or lost or you quite the map), there is a button that says save replay. You can watch replays from the main menu (under Single Player or whatever it is called, before you can click campaign or custom game etc.).

Oh, after playing 12 years Warcraft 3, this is the first time, thats somebody tell me, thats exist replays? O__O. mhh, why the sarcasm-code doesnt work?

I talked about a Replaydatabase at a website or something like this to watch great games. But not from the normal meleegames or Dota. Specially for custom games like risk, altered melee, Heroarenas and other stuff. Find nohing with google.

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

I found your question a bit weird , since you only mentioned replaybase (not on a website or something like that). Makes more sense now.
On googling I found one for custom games but is looks a bit dead and maybe it is only for (clan)members:

-> http://s1.zetaboards.com/PeID/forum/590855/

All the big ones are indeed for tournaments etc.

 

[Nightcrime]

You Sir! Making this map open source, interesting and FUN! I hereby salute you!
(I've always dream of a full SC2/SC1 conversation to be on wc3!)
*Salute*
But.. I have some questions xD
I've tried editing your map to make it more micro-manageable, and slightly balance the game.. but is it okay if I share your map here and other place? (Sure I would be giving you credits on the big screen xD.. I mean.. WHY NOT!?)

 

[The_New_Divide]

(I've always dream of a full SC2/SC1 conversation to be on wc3!)

The democampaign "Starcraft VS Warcraft" is a absolute must have.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/warcraft-vs-starcraft

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

You Sir! Making this map open source, interesting and FUN! I hereby salute you!
(I've always dream of a full SC2/SC1 conversation to be on wc3!)
*Salute*
But.. I have some questions xD
I've tried editing your map to make it more micro-manageable, and slightly balance the game.. but is it okay if I share your map here and other place? (Sure I would be giving you credits on the big screen xD.. I mean.. WHY NOT!?)

, thanks for the kind words! Sure you can distribute the map, just a few conditions;
- as you said on a big screen
- don't start the map name with SH or Starcraft Hybrids (to prevent confusion cause I want to upload a series of SH maps/campaign), you may end the map name with it ofcourse.
- a link, I am curious to see what you added .

The democampaign "Starcraft VS Warcraft" is a absolute must have.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/warcraft-vs-starcraft

, I should try that one too.

 

[UndeadImmortal]

We played a match yesterday with 3 normal AI. Whenever you cast a superweapon at a point, the AIs will cast too, which is pretty imba.
Also btw, it is hard to wall-ins in such a large entrance. Is there going to be a new map design soon?

 

[I_am_Death]

forgot to rate your map, 5/5
good work dude

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

We played a match yesterday with 3 normal AI. Whenever you cast a superweapon at a point, the AIs will cast too, which is pretty imba.
Also btw, it is hard to wall-ins in such a large entrance. Is there going to be a new map design soon?

, the way how the AI casts the superweapons is actually just default AI (/there are no triggers to let the AI use the superweapons). Now to makes things weird, the ability of the superweaponbuilding is based on Dark Portal. That means that the AI would normally use Dark Portal on enemy workers most of the time. I find that quite funny xD. Anyway the AI can only (just like human players) use a superweapon if the building's mana is 300. So either this is coincidence or they just saved their superweapon for later (/till you or something else triggered them).

I agree with the map terrain getting boring. I need to finish AI for droppings (still got a problem with that -> http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/world-editor-help-zone-98/how-order-just-unloaded-units-239293/) and some work for the new AI still needs to be done. Oh and a new siege unit for the Void Predators needs to be finished. All in all I don't think this will take long, but the dropping problem is annoying.

forgot to rate your map, 5/5
good work dude

, thanks for rating! +rep

 

[Bloody Wolf]

the new map terrain will be based on a classic starcraft map too or it will be made from scratch?

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

Well I want to remake one island map that I made for Starcraft 1 too. Aside from that, I have not really decided yet and I am all ears for ideas .

I cannot promise that I will make every map terrain suggested here myself but feel free to take this map after the next update (that would be V1.3) is released and replace the terrain & send it to me so I can upload it (with given credits to you than ofcourse). And I will import the right Starcraft 1 tileset textures (by StryderZero), e.g. lava or dirt etc.

 

[The_New_Divide]

Hey, look on this

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/zerg-ship-200639/

Maybe you have some nice idea with this.

 

[UndeadImmortal]

Evolved Mephit? It will fit for sure

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

The anims look nice, it looks a bit cartoony (or is that just the picture?). I will have a look at it and see if I can make something fitting of the texture & filesize. tnx

The model's filesize is big and I cannot optimize it (tried several times, several ways, breaks the model and generally I am pretty good at this). It also too cartoony in general for the map. It does look good, I can give it that.

 

[Bloody Wolf]

Hey, look on this

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/zerg-ship-200639/

Maybe you have some nice idea with this.

sweet mother of god......

 

[The_New_Divide]

How sad, thank you for try it.^^

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

I was testing the new air AI. I was with 2 other cpu allies against 5 cpu's. We were killed in ~about 45 minutes xD (I was playing decently with 500 kills at the end, not at my best though).

check the minimap :D

 

[Twilight]

Can I ask, where did you get the model of cristals?

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

Some other Starcraft map iirc, can't remember which one.

 

[Twilight]

oh well thanks anyway

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

oh well thanks anyway

, if you want the model you can just take it from my map (it is not protected).

 

[Twilight]

no thanks, but thanks for offer. +1 rep

 

[UndeadImmortal]

@Twilight, here.
http://www.epicwar.com/maps/8360/.

 

[Twilight]

Thanks very much UndeadImmortal. +1rep

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

quess what this is

 

[UndeadImmortal]

Starcraft Day-Z? Haha, that's the first thing I imagine when I saw that xD

 

[The_New_Divide]

The ! give a armoraura or Missingchance inside this Walls. Correctly?

Starcraft Day-Z?

I think more about D-day. What Day-Z?

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

Starcraft Day-Z? Haha, that's the first thing I imagine when I saw that xD

, haha since they are zombies with Infested in the map in not even that far-fetched xD

The ! give a armoraura or Missingchance inside this Walls. Correctly?

, bingo! A few points (e.g. thick forests) in the map(s) will have terrain bonuses where non-huge ground units at the point will get an armor bonus. It is a bit of an extra to hold some areas against enemies.

 

[The_New_Divide]

Hey, someone here, who want play this game on B.net?(best 1vs1 or 2vs2)

Contact me with PM or Mail

-Greetz-The_New_Divide

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

The island map will be uploaded later. I am having some problems with the AI. Till than, enjoy this one where the new AI does work properly .

Update 3

* New island map for SH. More maps will come.
* Improved AI, more expanding and with a better economy. The AI variation that focusses on 'air' has been remade.
* Added terrain bonuses system.
* Option for player 1 to choose between easy, normal and insane AI.
* Option for player 1 to disable superweapons.
* New siege unit for Void Predators added: the Shocker.
* Some terrain improvements.
* Fixed Templar of the Void's and Spectral Archon's food cost (they were very high for some reason).
* Drones are now trained faster (from 12 to 9) compared to other workers to compensate for the Drone lost when creating a building.
* Void Predators buildings' mineral cost reduced to compensate for the Drone lost when creating a building.
* Rebuild improved alot, from 75 hp restore to 200 hp restore.
* Reaper faster movement (+30), weaker Sythe attack ability (from 40% to 30%).
* Broodlings have gained the Reflecting Carapace ability, rendering them immune to all effects.
* Void Walker now has Weaker Gravity Pull instead of the Templar of the Void (the Templar could not auto-cast it properly cause it is invisble).
* Dreadnought's area damage reduced.
* Increased the range of Dark Stream so it matches the range of the Darkling.
* Into the Void has a longer duration and improved effect.
* Voidwalk has a longer duration (from 20 to 30 seconds).
* Swarm Nest (from Mephit) damage increased from 4 to 6.
* Call Forces area of effect reduced from 250 to 200.
* Killing a neutral unit (e.g. an unit that is effected by the Chaos spell) won't give bounty anymore.
* Void Accumulator now has a proper birth animation.
* Enfeeblement Aura buff graphics changed, less noisy.
* Grim Ward less noisy.
* Buff for Nanobots fixed.

 

[The_New_Divide]

Nice models for the Shocker. But the abilitys are not very innovativ. Give 3,5/5 for the new unit.
Also the trees schould get give strategic abilitys, too.

BTW, have player 2 the option to vote AI-Level and pro/contra Superweapons, when player 1 is closed or computer?

And I see this in the Loadscreen:

This is a new take on the traditional Starcraft races. The three races have been replaced by two hybrid races.

Its 3 or I can not count.

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

Nice models for the Shocker. But the abilitys are not very innovativ. Give 3,5/5 for the new unit.
Also the trees schould get give strategic abilitys, too.

BTW, have play 2 the option to vote AI-Level and pro/contra Superweapons, when player 1 is closed or computer?

And I see this in the Loadscreen:


Its 3 or I can not count.

, I can give it some extra abilities . A voting option sounds like a good idea indeed . And the type will be fixed .

ps: insane AI is not yet insane at the moment, now it has only lots of resources. I will give them a few more bonuses later on.

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

I have released a new terrain map for the SH series:

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/sh-v1-3-top-vs-bottom-240019/?prev=status%3Dp%26u%3D[K40%24]-Spectre

 

[The_New_Divide]

Will you add a 1vs1 version or a 4-playermap like LT, too?

But when you make LT, you should not use SC-Meleerules(Choke, Natural etc.)

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

That sounds like a good ideas for maps. I wanted to do a 4 player map with a huge destroyed/ruined city. I could remake Lost Temple and change the center of the map into a destroyed city.

you should not use SC-Meleerules(Choke, Natural etc.)

, you mean making the chokepoints bigger and an abundance of resources (like in other SH maps)?

 

[The_New_Divide]

Quote:

you should not use SC-Meleerules(Choke, Natural etc.)

, you mean making the chokepoints bigger and an abundance of resources (like in other SH maps)?

__________________

You can, but please, not define on this like Blizzard in SC2.

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

Quote:

, you mean making the chokepoints bigger and an abundance of resources (like in other SH maps)?
__________________

You can, but please, not define on this like Blizzard in SC2.

, sry I have no idea what your are trying to say than. Do you want it to look it like the old Lost Temple (Starcraft 1) or not?

 

[The_New_Divide]

All in all its no matter.^^
It's up to you - make a call!-Its your move!

Offtopic: OMG, its exist very much english variation for one german word! -.-

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

Ah I see now that you are German. I am Dutch and understand a bit of German (mind you not too good though). So if google translation does a bad job, you could try it in German .

 

[The_New_Divide]

worst english ever

You can do maps like Lost Temple. But its not good, when you JUST make maps with natural, choke and more. Blizzard has doing NOTHING else with sc2 after release. But I think you didnt do this. BTW I can try to make some maps with SH.

German

Du kannst es wie Lost Temple machen, allerdings wäre es blöd, wenn du dann NUR noch maps mit natural, choke und so machst. Blizzard hat bei sc2 NICHTS anderes seit release gemacht. Aber mal ganz ehrlich, ich glaube, dass du sowas nicht machen würdest. BTW ich kann ja auch mal so nebenbei versuchen, paar gut gestyle maps mit SH zu kreieren.

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

Ah I understand you know I think . I will try to make the map unique. By the way, the worst english ever was/is from Babelfish .

Yeah cool if you can make a map for SH. With what tileset do you want to work with (e.g. Lava, Space-like, Desert, or Dirt/Grass like from this map)? I can import other tileset textures if you want.

ps: finally managed to get Island Deluxe map stable and working. It is not exactly an island map anymore since the bigger islands are connected to the center of the map through waygates (to let the AI function properly) but it still favors air armies & droppings . Going to upload it now.

-edit, link to new SH map Island Deluxe http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/sh-v1-3-island-deluxe-240076/

 

[Bloody Wolf]

hmm seems legit xD

 

[XxDaiasxX]

Can you please add custom music because the standard music of warcraft sucks

 

[UndeadImmortal]

Can you please add custom music because the standard music of warcraft sucks

I doubt he will add one, the file size is already 7.99 mb, and average musics are about 3 - 10 mb.

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

hmm seems legit xD

, you bet

Can you please add custom music because the standard music of warcraft sucks

, as UndeadImmortal points out I can safely say it is impossible to add custom music while keeping the filesize below 8mb (higher than that and maps cannot be played on battle-net & iirc also cannot be played on netwerk/lan, excluding through things like Hamachi). That said, later when I will make a campaign I am not limited by filesize (since it is singleplayer only) and so for a campaign I will certaintly add custom music. At the moment I am very busy with my education so campaign will come later.

ps: when I play SH i just open youtube select e.g. Starcraft 1 soundtrack playlist or something else fitting. This Starcraft playlist is perfect http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCFnt__7lmc&list=PL06FEBF5BD761D56B (hooray for no commercials)

 

[The_New_Divide]

I have play the first 1vs1 now and me and my mate have the same opinion. Void Pretators are to underpowered at least in earlgame.

And the disabled supplysuport by sunkens etc. are shitty.

 

[TaShadan]

Why didnt you upload the 3rd game aswell?

 

[The_New_Divide]

Why didnt you upload the 3rd game aswell?

It was the first game.^^
I forget always save my looses.

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

I have play the first 1vs1 now and me and my mate have the same opinion. Void Pretators are to underpowered at least in earlgame.

And the disabled supplysuport by sunkens etc. are shitty.

, I never actually play 1vs1 so it was interesting to see how the balance is (lacking in this case) between the races in small games. I must say though that his defence was shitty (sry TaShadan ).

But yeah although I buffed it especially in v1.3, void predators are still underpowered. I will buff them and probably just let sunkens and void colonies give food.
Next to some new extra's for all 3 races I am working on for the next update .

 

[TaShadan]

I admit i sucked but iam not a noob rts gamer. I played tons of sc:bw and was kinda good at it. Want to play me 1on1 on your map? You play void preds rofl.