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Beside the download button of every multiplayer map on Hive are two new buttons.
These buttons help inform everyone that it's easy to host, find, and arrange any game of a map from the Hive's map section. The more of that we have, the more feedback maps get. Click on the buttons to see where they lead. And in a joint effort to promote this project, we've affiliated with entgaming.net!
ENT is a large Warcraft 3 gaming community dedicated to providing quality custom game matches. Games are checked for maphackers, exploiters, and those who purposely ruin games. Leagues are always in motion, so if you're looking to compete for titles, you're in for a challenge. Their bots connect to all battle.net realms, eurobattle.net, EntConnect, and Garena*, all simultaneously. This means if you play in a different platform as someone else, you can join them through ENT. Get your games on together, not separate
Group hosting like ENT and all others is one of the reasons I stopped playing B.Net as much as I used to.
But this should help with activity, so that's cool!
Pretty sure it is because Garena support died in a number of countries this week. Those I can remember are Iran, Romania(I think) and Bulgaria but I think there were 3 or 4 more.
Apparently the servers have been DDoS-ed a lot over the past few months and they cant keep a stable service.
Their engineers had/have more important projects, and they have no additional resources for supporting LAN.
(an admin of the bulgarian garena fairplay forum posted this after talking with garena)
They've left support only in the countries where they have an office.
E: Or not, nvm. Am I really that slow of a typer
Man I remember A time where hosting a game was as easy as pressing the button inside WC3. How times have gone backwards that we need to minimize WC3 and visit other sites to host.
Man I remember A time where hosting a game was as easy as pressing the button inside WC3. How times have gone backwards that we need to minimize WC3 and visit other sites to host.
You well know that you're wrong when you're saying that one must visit sites to host. Compared to reading a tutorial on how to host via forwarded ports before you press the button on WC3, hosting via ENT and MMH are simply the same level of difficulty if not easier for hosting.
Organized bot games connect players and the community more by being cross realm and having regulation of exploiters who ruin games for everyone else. There are no more empty, unorganized DotA lobby spams to complain about. We're not forcing anyone to use the bots, and if you click on host map, you'll see that we even include a detailed tutorial on how to host the original way.
This is beneficial to Hive as it gives the incentive to host maps as there's a button at the place 100% of people looking to download said map. You can now check lists where Hive maps would be hosted on the most. Most of the Hive can now play together. We just got the support of an awesome playerbase. You may not like WC3 anymore but don't spoil this partnership and project for everyone else man.
Man I remember A time where hosting a game was as easy as pressing the button inside WC3. How times have gone backwards that we need to minimize WC3 and visit other sites to host.
This.
There's also the fact that it gives a lot of other people control over various games.
I remember having an all out verbal brawl against a mod of BGN when it was still around with two other people backing me up
He ended up getting reprimanded pretty hard for what he tried to do to us
Compared to reading a tutorial on how to host via forwarded ports before you press the button on WC3, hosting via ENT and MMH are simply the same level of difficulty if not easier for hosting.
You only need to port forward if you use a NAT (Network Address Translator). If people understood the tools they use they would know this. The only reason you do not need to port forward more often is because almost every connection you make through the internet is outgoing (only server related tasks like hosting require incoming connection support).
You well know that you're wrong when you're saying that one must visit sites to host.
I was talking from the usability perspective. In theory it has gone backwards from what it was originally as now more steps are required to host than before (assuming correct network configuration). Actual quality and availability of hosting has improved on average as a result of this service, but the usability is still not the same as it was back when you could host from in game.
You only need to port forward if you use a NAT (Network Address Translator). If people understood the tools they use they would know this. The only reason you do not need to port forward more often is because almost every connection you make through the internet is outgoing (only server related tasks like hosting require incoming connection support).
I was talking from the usability perspective. In theory it has gone backwards from what it was originally as now more steps are required to host than before (assuming correct network configuration). Actual quality and availability of hosting has improved on average as a result of this service, but the usability is still not the same as it was back when you could host from in game.
It would be nice of ENT and other bot managers could automatically unhost games if they do not get any players within 10-30 minutes who stay in the lobby for longer than 1 minute (to stop false positive from trawler bots). Just to declutter the lobby lists a bit to make finding games slightly easier.
They are perfectly fine if they are actually starting games 24/7. If at any time they are not starting with a full house (as good as) or within an hour they should consider being turned off. Even if members can start them again by simply hosting the map, it is better that they are pulled down when inactive than remain up and annoy people with "ghost lobbies".
So I went to MMH and pulled this...
Bot Name Current Game Ingame
Ent.Europe10 twrpg+2 1/8
Ent.Europe6 Hero of The Empire 7/8
Ent.Europe8 FOA 8/9
Ent.Hosting11 suap1 4/12
Ent.Hosting8 Anime Team Survival +1 3/8
ENT61 [ENT] BattleShip Crossfire #53 2/8
ENT1 [ENT] Castle Fight! #80 3/6
ENT10 [ENT] LoD -sd #4 0/10
ENT11 [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #48 2/10
ENT12 [ENT] Fortress Survival! #25 3/10
ENT13 [ENT] Wintermaul One #94 0/9
ENT14 [ENT] Gem TD #98 0/8
ENT15 [ENT] Survival Chaos #88 0/4
ENT16 [ENT] Civilization Wars #81 4/6
ENT18 [ENT] Legion TD Mega #92 7/8
ENT19 [ENT] Battleships Pro 5v5 #80 4/10
ENT2 [ENT] Are you a lucker? #60 0/4
ENT20 [ENT] YouTD #72 0/8
ENT21 [ENT] Hero Wars #65 2/6
ENT23 [ENT] Troll and Elves #88 1/11
ENT90 [ENT] DotA apem euro #60 10/10
ENT91 [ENT] DotA ap euro #16 1/10
ENT92 [ENT] DotA LoD sds6bod2 EU #1 0/10
ENT93 [ENT] DotA ar euro #4 0/10
ENT94 [ENT] DotA sd euro #1 0/10
ENT96 [ENT] Legion TD Mega euro #67 8/8
ENTID [ENT] Island Defense #6 9/11
Out of this list, 29 games have no players at all in them. A further 10 only have a single player in them which usually means people praying for others to join. There are 67 games in the list. That means 39/67 are as good as empty and should not be up, which is over half of their robots they are running. Assuming 9 of the 10 single person games just happened to have 1 player at the time, that is still 30 games they should not be stuffing in the lobby. What amazes me is who on earth pays for this, as the robots sitting empty in the lobby are not free. Even MMH terminates empty games after a while.
ENT needs to seriously revise their standing robot policy. Only robots which are constantly starting (at least once an hour) should be standing in the list. Anything else should be pulled down and hosted on request. This massive declutter would massively improve the usability of WC3 for all.
If the robots are used extensively at some times of the day they should schedule them to auto host only at those times. I would say having robots sitting with 0-1 player most of the time is terrible resource utilization.
Oh and I am not specifically aiming this at ENT. Other MMH partners are as bad...
Bot Name Current Game Ingame
1337-oNes FOOTIES ELITE [oNes] #1 0/12
anilifehost [VenDev]F.A.W v0.6 40 10/12
AoD]Host AoD RISK DEVO!! #4 0/12
AshenvaleBot City Builders #3 0/6
Assasin-BOT [UcW] DotA Apem #540 0/10
Assasin-BOT2 [UcW] HordeVsAlliance As #1455 10/12
Assasin-BOT4 [UcW] Legion TD X10 #6 2/10
A_Clans-Bot A|cFF3300FF-C2.0-Bot #14 4/10
BeAsT-bot UAF #386 2/12
CGArena CGArena 2v2 Rdm Heroes #4782 6/12
Chani85Bot1 [CH] Farmers vs Hunters 3.5 #1 2/12
ClanFA1 2 Lanes 4 Pros GL HF #73 8/10
ClanFotS1 Line Tower Wars [FotS] #6713 1/8
ClanFotS2 WmW X14.2 [FotS] #107893 6/8
ClanFotS3 Cube D [FotS] #884 2/10
ClanMNvRez [MN] Naruto Ninpou Storm #68 3/12
ClanRotD Vampirism Ultra [R0tD] #1843 6/12
ClanSN [SN] Castle Fight #11 9/12
CPT POKEMON WORLD #28 1/11
curihost TKoK RPG #35 2/9
Dark_Bot Against the Darkness 3.1.1 #19 0/9
DotD Dawn Of The Dead #260 4/12
EFB-Bot Legion TD pro #3023 2/10
EfbStar-Bot Horde Vs Alliance Pro #9713 3/12
FaR-Bot Kodo Tag Xtreme #3012 2/12
FFArena FFArena #845 1/12
Fot-boT FoOoOotmen -Auto #2825 1/12
FTRHost 2v2 tr obs 333 1/12
GaiA-HosTBoT-2 Renouveau FR RP rmk #36 0/12
GaiasDungeon Gaias Dungeon #12 1/7
GaiasHostBot Gaias Farm Bot (Any Level) #21 2/7
GameBot Lotr Risk #3 0/12
GoG-Slasher kodo tag gusy #6 2/12
HLW ****** HLW by Sheep #6107 2/10
IMMORTAL-oNes HERO WARS [oNes] #47302 10/12
kegsta DotA DH MM #64 2/12
KoMa.BoT1 [eFL] LEGION TD MEGA X10 #1333 3/10
KomA.Bot4 Mini Footy #22 4/8
LGN ****** LEGION TD by Sheep #3279 2/10
Miss.bot # FIGHTERS UNITED [Miss] #607 4/12
Miss] # RUN KITTY RUN [Miss] #46 1/12
nrpghost [VenDev]Nrpg 2.88qff 14 4/9
PeonBot Defiance ORPG! #15 3/12
random260_pub1 CUSTOM HERO FOOTIES #18 9/12
RBHTestServer RISKRevo[Clan RBH] #1139 2/12
RDJBOT Vamps Cel Gen [WoD] #105 0/12
RDJBOT2 FoC [WoD] #4 3/10
RRA01 DBZ Tribute #262 0/12
SPN01 DBZ Tribute 2.2 #172 0/12
TeamFFA 2v2v2v2, Friends! #5 8/12
TwGB[Host] [TwGB] Island Troll Tribes #1 6/12
Ultrax-Bot Legion TD x10 pro #1049 3/10
UnitedHostBot [UcW] X HerO Siege #7 1/9
UnitedHostBot2 [UcW] Legion TD Mega #2 8/10
wTc[Bit] HERO PUSH #74 0/8
wTc[Bot] FOOTMEN VS GRUNTS #240 2/12
x96 Natures Wrath #682 2/12
Another 11 completely empty lobbies which should not exist. Most games with only 1-2 players. Those owners should also really consider pulling down their robots and instead letting people host them on demand.
I know nothing of bots, but I just wanted to say that some of us simply cannot host games on BattleNet ourselves. I spent 6 hours trying to figure out how to host through my connection in Australia. No luck.
I'm very happy about the new buttons, but let's keep discussing it and see if we can't solve some of these problems.
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