Cruiser Command v0.93g

[Tank-Commander]

lol, i never said to do it, just a suggestion and if it was done the missile pads would odviously need to be repairable xD

 

[DiMiX]

lol, i never said to do it, just a suggestion and if it was done the missile pads would odviously need to be repairable xD

Don't get all defensive on me

 

[DiMiX]

Thanks for adding me to the credits Callex, sen't u another mail, TKF u're in there too

 

[DigitalHawk96]

Hey Callex! Remember me from earlier on, wow3, i just become member so ill give a large thumbs up for this. Great, enjoyed it.

 

[XenoStalker]

Have you considered boarding enemy BC with marine suits or something? A bit of conflict inside the hull etc - you can disrupt the power supply, plant bombs, hack into the resource bay, etc once the enemy shields are down.

I think this would be a fun addition and open up more ways of destroying the enemy cruiser.

 

[DiMiX]

Have you considered boarding enemy BC with marine suits or something? A bit of conflict inside the hull etc - you can disrupt the power supply, plant bombs, hack into the resource bay, etc once the enemy shields are down.

I think this would be a fun addition and open up more ways of destroying the enemy cruiser.

I agree, but this would come in later versions i think...

 

[rover2341]

1v4 I WON!

1v4 I WON!

SO I said i gonna play 1v4. These guys like you cant pull it off. But i did! I owned them. it was nuts, at the very end of the game, i was trying so hard to get misses made and there shooting me down. It was the best game of my life.


Basically my plan was this... I knew if i waited too long collecting recorses, that they would out due me for sure, and send the fighter after me. So I got just enough for 6 Missiles. And after that i went full speed to them shooted my missiles, ran off and got some more. Basically i did that 3 times. But It was so amazing!

I add Replay Version was .64d.

BEST MATCH EVER!

P.S.

The game was in a folder called "Download" not "Downloads" you might have to put the map a folder like that.








Also, The Missels that fire, bug some times in teh game. not sure if the replay shows it, the missiles get made, in space, but some times are more like mines, and don't fire off.

 

[cruton]

I love this map, played it a ton, almost won a 2 vs 5 once.

I have a quick suggestion, which is a different version of one of cerebrate fate's ideas. Why not make fighter/miner crafts interchangeable. Allow pilots to switch the crafts to what ever they want, allowing the possibility of two miners or two fighters at a time.

With crafts as they are now, for the first 5+ minutes of play, the unarmed fighter is little more than a scout, and during long games the miner becomes obsolete after collecting so many resources (I played a couple games where teams had stockpiled 300+ missiles and had huge piles of "unwanted" resources sitting around in the docking bay). Having both pilots mine for a while would speed up that boring arming and upgrading phase at the beginning of the game, and having both pilots fight would heat up the battle phase of the game. Also having multiple miners at the beginning of the game would give the engineers more to do more quickly, which was something you said you were concerned about in your message back on page 4, I think.

 

[Levithan]

@ tankcommander.
Very nice idea. It is very useful and a good tactic for the attackers. Also it makes a point for area damage, If missiles hit wings Missile bays become unusable if it hits engineering. refinery and engines become unusable. Nice Idea

 

[emilaxel]

A great idea indeed. I realy liked the way that the commander, pilots and engineers had to work together to win the game. The idea to create derbris inside of the ship if it is hit whas also nice.

You need a better model for the Cruiser but that´s mentioned in the loading screen. Anyway I´ll rate it 4/5.

 

[mustang_]

4/5
Map is good but i hosted that and some guys have EPIC LAGS i just voted 4 but that map have lags.

 

[khangaroo]

Add AI to this and it'd be really nice. Perhaps put more emphasis on fighters.

 

[efsfdison]

Great Map,5\5.

 

[TKF]

Scorpion Missile Nerf:

Minerals considered, in long games veldite seems to be a shortages of cuz almost everything costs veldite. Making scorpions is a good tactic cuz you use twice as much omite than veldite.

Scorpion missiles does seem to be overpowered in general compared with other missiles. Maybe it need some nerf cuz in one game we pwned the enemy cruiser cuz they didn't have the veldite enough to fix the huge amount of fires we inflicted with 20+ scorpions. Perhaps the repair kit needs to cost less veldite, or the chance for creating fires with scorpion somewhat reduced would be ok.

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New Heavy Missile?

Also with only 1 type of heavy missile, it would be nice to have the possiblity of creating a second heavy missile type.


Devastator - Heavy
20 veldite
30 omite

This missile is slightly faster than predator but has almost no homing ability and also it doesn't travel as far as predator, but very powerful. On impact it does 50% more damage than predator and always causes explosion + much fires and rubbles if shields is down.

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Faster Power adjustments:

Would be nice if you could adjust power levels with 10% instead of 5% pr tick. It takes so long time to power down/up the shields.

OR

A spell book in the panel which allows you to switch to 25% adjustments if needed. Well it's much of work implementing this so perhaps not.


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Showing upgrades:

When you do the ship upgrades, you should get text messages on which level ship upgrades are at.


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Reducing Offline Duration when using lots of power on shield:

I'm not sure if this is already implemented, but if now I think it would be fair if you choose to for example use high amount of energy on the shields to lessen the offline duration. Also shield always start on 20% when recovered, maybe make it 25% of the current power used on shields instead?

 

[SasuhKun]

God you left me with some huge will to play Starcraft as much as I play wc3 Ç_Ç
They're out of stock aren't they? God I have to find one... and the expansion. Maybe a search-n-buy website? If that's only a battleship battle, imagine... the greater battles. In ground, in space. Space-to-ground maybe? Like Solar Conquest? STARCRAFT Ç_Ç

 

[callex]

Hehe yea. I'm really looking forward to Sc2. I've actually secured myself a beta key too, so we'll be seeing maps even as the game launches hopefully

 

[SasuhKun]

Starcraft Ç_Ç. Callex you're from europe ain't ya? I'm from US.East, but since another good author is french and I wanted to play with him I made an account there. Nickname is Lone.Wolf (same as US.East) Maybe I could even show you it. Do you know a game named Lords of Europe? (it is posted on hive)

 

[TKF]

Adjusting power levels takes 100 years. Make it faster with less cooldown or more power adjusted pr tick. 10gw pr click would be good.


Shields takes very long time to recover after being taken offline by attacks. The regeneration is a bit slow.


The ship can fly at 300-500 and I don't know the hull damage on high speed increases with speed.


Polishing needs:

• Be able to use camera after you shoot missile could be a good idea since that is what users by nature would do after they fire the missile.
• You can kill the missile doors. Remove the attack?
• You can use a 3rd party lagg program as cheat to abuse the 0 cooldown of the lasers and causes insane damage to enemy cruiser and instant win. 0.01 second cooldown or a trigger that limits instant use of lasers to 10 perhaps.
• using -name command is weird when it gives 1 more space to your name " ". Also -name with extra space removes name, make a fix to prevent no name abuse.
• Also look properly at the missile loading triggers. Sometimes it bugs with the counting and bays not closing when they should.
• The material producer panel sometimes bugs and sometimes take out everything at once for some odd reason.
• The collision size of the fighters and miners is strange since it doesn't take the flying height properly to account and thus looks like missiles and lasers going trought them
• Somewhat further zoomed out when you are in space would be great for the cruiser capatin, allowing you to see the bottom well.
• Indicate which upgrades can be upgraded only once in their desciptions.
• missiles and laser cell tends to travel a short distance when shooting at point blank range, thus missing at point blank range.

 

[Rasgriz]

improvements

This game is friggen awsome

the things i can think of are have upgrades for hull hp and shield strength besides overcharging, i can yamato a ship twice and take it down with 12 heavy missles even in very late game

and have upgrades to make the mining ship laser damage and range increase or to send out drones, so its not so boring for that person

also modes where you could set team sizes for a 3v3v3 or something to that effect would be cool

all in all a good map but being able to kill or be killed late game VERY QUICKLY is kindof annoying, a giant build up leading to 20 seconds instead of a massive seige

anyway again good map

@ dimix, A nuke would work, but it wouldn't have the same effect as it does on earth. Nukes are less powerful in space because there is no shockwave (due to the lack of atmosphere). Hence the only damage a nuke in space can cause is in the from of radiation.

also i read this, nukes do far more damage in space than radiation
the force of the warhead hitting an object and the matter expanding does damage....like a hollow point bullet

 

[DiMiX]

Good Job releasing the next version, i see that the new docking system could possibly benefit what we have been discusing. Or make a cheap imitation of what we have been discussing then work upwards slowly (which might not be a bad idea)

Unfortunately i won't be able to help out in the near future due to dramatic changes in my personal afairs, i will check out this map thread a few times per week but that's it. I will be forever gratefull for mentioning me in the creds of such a fantastic project and wish you the best of luck in the future.

Cya in a few months.

 

[Levithan]

Yeah ill pick up where Dimix left off, Nice new system, Which could be changed to improve it ( ill post up a detail improvements log in about 7 hours) and working slowly forwards, for the next update may i suggest that you might want a new missile type, Either one of the 5-6 me and Draz suggested or one of the others.

 

[callex]

Thanks! This version has been a massive pain in the ass to make. The vessel system is probably the least flexible part of the map ^^

No problem DiMiX - thanks for all the help! I'm pretty confident now that multiple battlecruiser types wont be possible, especially not with additional strike craft. Aesthetic differences in the cruisers could be done using attachments after upgrading or something though, but I'd probably need a little help from a modeller with the attachments themselves.

Haven't actually played Lords of Europe, but I've heard of it. I'll try and check it out sometime!

As always, thanks for the constants bugs reports TKF. I've stuck the issues on the to-do list; hopefully I can get most of them fixed for the next version!

Edit: Whoopse! uploaded a test version by mistake >< Fixed.

 

[Svenska_0rmen]

Really nice map!.

But after 20 min it gets boring when you got like 100 missiles. you should get some events like pirate vassal or maybe a planet you can visit.

But the map is for sure a 5/5

 

[DeadMG]

I think that the lasers take too much energy. When you power your lasers, they consume power passively even when not being fired, AND you're charged that energy per shot.

I think that the lasers should be a cost/shot, so if you have 60gw on lasers, when you're not firing it stores it, then when you are firing, that's how much power is put into the lasers.

As for nukes, they'd be pretty ineffective in space. Without the shockwave, you could pretty quickly move out of the high temperature ranges. I mean, they'd still be strong, but not WMD.

 

[Tleno]

I think you should make just so everyone could do everything without qualifications, just you couldn'r quallify each other and quallification would just give you amjor bonus.

Oh, and I would like to board enemy cruiser with my team instead of blowing him up... it would be cool to grab a suit and a gun and someway get inside enemy cruiser, causing destruction inside of it...

 

[TKF]

I like the new swap vessel system, although it seem possible to waste loading missiles when you swap to a miner instead and not being able to use the panel when the vessel is outside, a box on both sides would made it easier, but the current system is also good.

2 miners brings minerals quickly. Fighter bay panels are awesome, although it's somewhat hard for new people to get used to the new way of loading weapons into the fighter. Also with possibility to change into 2 strike crafts the strategy part of the game is suddenly much greater.


Also with 6 inventory slots free you can carry 6 items which makes you able to pick up a full load of minerals and a full load of weapons to the fighter.

Edit_


GREAT IMPROVEMENTS!

New Bugreport for 0.65h:

• The missile bays removes resources permanently if a idiot loads it in the missile bay
• If a leaver leaves with items in his inventory while he flies, it's a permanent loss. If he leaves while inside the ship it takes a while until his items appear. 1-2 min or so.
• The missile bays doesn't close and remove missile properly sometimes when you load, it does load 80-90% of the times. Fix it.

Feedback:

• The games are now shorter now as there is a possibility for 2 miners mining at the same time. Faster resource income.
• The shield regeneration is kinda a bit slow, since the games in 0.65h is faster with higher resource income, the speed the shields recharges is somewhat slow. The battles seems more intense and shields are not that great to use much power on.
• The shield degeneration could be different depending on how big difference there is of current shield and shield power spent.
• The cluster rocket seems to be very devastating compared to it's production price. Maybe reduce it's effectiveness against shields and maybe reduce the chance a little by creating multiple fires?

 

[warblazer]

i have an idea instead of boarding i have to say that this is one of the best games i have played an bnet but beside that my idea is that you could launch a missle that only if the shields are down will impact the opposing battlecruiser and release a paylode of spider-like drones that are relativly weak but many in number and will destroy the systems of the ship-dissabling shields,lasers,engines, and others but may take a while and of course this all will have to be repairable but i personally think this would be better then boarding because then if you all leave whos manning the battle cruiser?? or for another way you could have a drone-ship loaded with droids to board the enemy cruiser... but to all of you wishing for boarding.. then whats the point of everything else on the ship if your just going to board them and kill them anyway but let me know what you think of this i would design the model if i knew how to but im relativly new to editor...

 

[DiMiX]

I'm pretty confident now that multiple battlecruiser types wont be possible, especially not with additional strike craft.

Nothing is impossible, especially not that which grows young roots deeply.

By god, if it really HAS grown on you as much as it has on me, it'll come to pass even if the game is no longer... (coughsc2cough)



Edit : Just read some more anti-nuke rubbish i won't stand for, you people that don't want nukes in Cruiser Command should be shaved, sterilized and destroyed. (a12m)

 

[Dark.Revenant]

A friend of mine pointed this out:

The Fusion Core upgrade is completely bugged for both teams, potentially breaking the upgrade for team 1 and allowing team 2 to have infinite upgrades.

The code you use for determining if the upgrade is fully upgraded or not is bugged, and additionally the corrected code does not make much sense logically.

if(K_V())then
set A=FP(GetOwningPlayer(GetSpellAbilityUnit()))
call DisplayTextToForce(A,"|cffFF0202Fully upgraded.")

function K_V takes nothing returns boolean
return(KTV())and(KUV())
endfunction

function KTV takes nothing returns boolean
return(AV==1)or(CE>$D2)
endfunction
function KUV takes nothing returns boolean
return(AV==0)or(BE==$D2)
endfunction

Though, in this case,

function KTV takes nothing returns boolean
return(AV==1)or(BE==$D2)
endfunction
function KUV takes nothing returns boolean
return(AV==0)or(CE==$D2)
endfunction

would get the intended effect, it is very backwards logically. A much simpler method would just be

function K_V takes nothing returns boolean
return(KTV())or(KUV())
endfunction

function KTV takes nothing returns boolean
return(AV==1)and(CE==$D2)
endfunction
function KUV takes nothing returns boolean
return(AV==0)and(BE==$D2)
endfunction

Not quite sure what you were thinking when you implemented this.

 

[wereguy2]

Oh, fucking hell...
I had a really long review down when my stupid computer spontaneously restarted....

Okay, here is the gist of it;
It's a really good map and I like it.
It should select the player when he leaves consoles.
At the start, the ships should be facing north, otherwise the zoom-in looks kinda weird.
Collision was awesome, but ships plowed into and through each other, which didn't look too good.
How about an indicator of the spacecraft's speed, through Mana maybe?

Anyway, I had more, but have forgotten it...
5/5

 

[Tleno]

I also have an idea about some kinda like emergency teleport. Its expensive and hard to make, when you activate it the ship teleports away from enemy, but it can't move for a while after that and it dmages the crew since its hard to teleport living creatures.

 

[callex]

Ah, yea there was a little bug with the power enhancement thing, I've fixed it now, thanks... It was a late night and I probably wasnt thinking straight xD.
Yea my triggering is pretty apalling when you look at it like that.

 

[masterofra]

This is a epic map!

Note: i will edit this post everytime i have an idea, look back here occasionally

A "few" things i noticed

- (bug?) If you want missiles to hit the enemy's cruiser, your cruiser has to point at theirs. This results in them crashing into each other. if you don't point at them, the 'miss'iles miss completely. Make missiles have much higher turning rate for the first 2-3 seconds, so they can face towards enemies quickly, like if they start with short duration mobility boosters or something.

- (BUG) If shields are off, asteroids still are deflected by shields, and if shields are on, the shields take no damage.
Make Asteroids deal 1% shield damage for every 1000 health left, and deal damage if the shield is down and they hit the ship.

- If shields are up, maybe make the enemies ship bounce off of it, dealing damage to the shield/hull of both ships.

- one game i played one of the enemy fighters got stuck off of the map. I'm not sure how you detect a unit moving off the map, but its not always working.

- Even if the engines, or otherwise are hit by missiles, they still work. is this a bug?

A "few" Ideas

- Transportation drones. They belong to the ship when built. An engineer can activate the control panel. they can be set to load transfer raw minerals, transfer processed minerals, or load missiles. They can initially carry one item, but can be upgraded to carry up to 3. they move at the same speed as a builder.

- Make missiles and lasers have -1 selection circle sizes, so that they do not have a health bar. hold down shift.

- For Acceleration, make it so that the commands have no cooldown, and no pause. They modify the wanted speed. and in any case that the current speed and the wanted speed do not match, move the current speed one notch closer to the wanted speed.

- Make missiles have to be constructed, you have to build a payload and a thrusting system, and maybe a expensive shield penetration module that has a small chance of ignoring enemy shields.

- Add Drone Missiles, which are easy to make, with low damage, and insane homing. They use power continuously while deployed.

- Make the navigation table, in the bridge, instead be a viewing screen, that tells the captain how much of everything is stored, what can be fabricated, what power is being generated and what it is being used for, and anything else that you have to leave the bridge to find out, or ask someone about.

- allow creation of shield cell for fighters/miners, 200 in a stack, stacks give 20% shielding to that ship. when this shield is damaged, remove some of the cells.

- (IMPORTANT) Make the power control panel have two more options, increase increment, and decrease increment, that changes the increment that power is allocated to something by 5GW. Cannot go below 5 or above 100. This will reduce the click frenzy required to up or lower power to stuff

- Make power sent to power the lasers be added to a energy pool, half to each gun. When you use a laser turret, it will initially have a power level of 5, with 6 options, +5, +25, +100, -5, -25, -100, which change the power level. When you fire a laser, it uses power from its pool equal to its power level, and deals damage proportional to the power level. This would work better than the old system, which appeared to waste power continuously. You could send something like 10 power to the lasers continuously, from the start of the game, and when engaging the enemy, you could have like 3k power, and if you set the laser power to 500, you could fire 6 uber strong shots at the enemy ship. or you could use smaller bursts, using 100 power each, and dealing less damage, but having 30 shots. you could use any power level you wanted. Also, the two lasers have separate energy pools, so that if two people used each one, you wouldnt have the energy hogging problem. You may need to add a max to how strong lasers could get tho

- Cloaking could be done, making your ship invisible, which uses 100 energy per second. you have to buy the upgrade first .It has a negative side tho, While active, shields take 5X power to run
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However, it seems impossible to get intelligent people in battlenet, that can understand the game and work together

Getting a single team for this game is difficult, getting two who are similarly matched is near impossible.

I think that if, for the second team, you put computers in, the second ship would be controlled by AI. However, nothing goes on inside the ship, it wouldnt need to harvest minerals, or create anything, missiles would be created periodically in the slots, upgrades would occur randomly, and hull damage would automaticly repair. both laser turrets would be fired at the enemy ship if seen. ect

Another idea for if you put computers as second team, it spawns a bunch of ships, all controlled by individual ai, and they would wander around, attacking you if they see you

It would be much easier to get one good team than two.

-off topic:
This thread is gliched, it says there are 13 threads, but only 12 can be accessed
Fixed, because the 13th one exists now

 

[Thick_Armor]

-off topic:
This thread is gliched, it says there are 13 threads, but only 12 can be accessed

Yeah, Hive has that problem all the time for almost every thread.

EDIT: Oh look, now there are 13 pages

 

[DiMiX]

This is a epic map!


However, it seems impossible to get intelligent people in battlenet, that can understand the game and work together

Getting a single team for this game is difficult, getting two who are similarly matched is near impossible.

I think that if, for the second team, you put computers in, the second ship would be controlled by AI. However, nothing goes on inside the ship, it wouldnt need to harvest minerals, or create anything, missiles would be created periodically in the slots, upgrades would occur randomly, and hull damage would automaticly repair. both laser turrets would be fired at the enemy ship if seen. ect

It would be much easier to get one good team than two.

Am i the only one here playing CC only on Garena ? People to play with in rooms Eu Rpg 1,2 and 3 aren't easy to find (as in join the game, download (usually from u, most ppl are too lazy to dl from link) and stay till start) but the rate of morons and leavers is far less dramatic than what you describe...

 

[Koloricsi]

This map is simply great, i agree with prev ideas like a cloning bay, or boarding enemy cruiser. It would be fun if u would make a 3rd team !

 

[callex]

I'm thinking of adding random space encounters; the occasional pirate fighter, and maybe even a cruiser in some games. These hostiles could drop special technologies that aren't normally unlockable. This way I could get away with adding some very cool technology without worrying about ruining the focus of the game i.e boarding, cloaking etc etc.

 

[Hugomath]

Epic Map!! Me and my friends always play this...but all in the same ship(i know that sounds boring but we Roleplay =D).Well there was a very old but cool map just like this one,i dunnow if was the first version of Cruiser Command or was another...but the terraining was very nice and there was only one ship and the map was kind of a campaign multiplayer.It was very nice but i cant remember the name :X.
Well continuating with your map I got a few suggestions:

-Make a boarding system or a boarding vessel so the crew members can invade the another cruiser(Also consider making some items like assault rifles,kevlar vests etc...

-You could create a kind of attack vessel to attack the other cruiser when your team's cruiser is heavily damaged or the captain dont wants to take the cruiser to battle =).

-Think about creating a huge weapon controlled by the captain not just the yamato cannon but a kind of cannon that has a long cooldown and uses about 2000 GWs,but deals high damage.(Also a EMP bomb to deactive the shields is a good idea =D).

Please check these suggestions cuz I love this map =D.

 

[Tleno]

Unique technology, eh? That dragon tail atachment at model section gave me an idea! You destroy alien living spacecraft and recieve technology that allows to infect hostile crew member. His teamates must prepare antidote in time or his gonna fully mutate and become their enemy's slave monster!

 

[DiMiX]

I'm thinking of adding random space encounters; the occasional pirate fighter, and maybe even a cruiser in some games. These hostiles could drop special technologies that aren't normally unlockable. This way I could get away with adding some very cool technology without worrying about ruining the focus of the game i.e boarding, cloaking etc etc.

Great train of thought

 

[DiMiX]

Epic Map!! Me and my friends always play this...but all in the same ship(i know that sounds boring but we Roleplay =D).Well there was a very old but cool map just like this one,i dunnow if was the first version of Cruiser Command or was another...but the terraining was very nice and there was only one ship and the map was kind of a campaign multiplayer.It was very nice but i cant remember the name :X.
Well continuating with your map I got a few suggestions:

-Make a boarding system or a boarding vessel so the crew members can invade the another cruiser(Also consider making some items like assault rifles,kevlar vests etc...

-You could create a kind of attack vessel to attack the other cruiser when your team's cruiser is heavily damaged or the captain dont wants to take the cruiser to battle =).

-Think about creating a huge weapon controlled by the captain not just the yamato cannon but a kind of cannon that has a long cooldown and uses about 2000 GWs,but deals high damage.(Also a EMP bomb to deactive the shields is a good idea =D).

Please check these suggestions cuz I love this map =D.

Strange, for someone that claims to play alot you seem to know surprisingly little...hmmm

 

[DiMiX]

This is a epic map!

A few things i noticed

- (bug?) If you want missiles to hit the enemy's cruiser, your cruiser has to point at theirs. This results in them crashing into each other. if you don't point at them, the 'miss'iles miss completely. Make missiles have much higher turning rate for the first 2-3 seconds, so they can face towards enemies quickly, like if they start with short duration mobility boosters or something.

- (BUG) If shields are off, asteroids still are deflected by shields, and if shields are on, the shields take no damage.
Make Asteroids deal 1% shield damage for every 1000 health left, and deal damage if the shield is down and they hit the ship.

- If shields are up, maybe make the enemies ship bounce off of it, dealing damage to the shield/hull of both ships.

- one game i played one of the enemy fighters got stuck off of the map. I'm not sure how you detect a unit moving off the map, but its not always working.

Ideas

- for any of the options like accelerating that pause the controls, add a cooldown instead for the same duration. If you pause the cruiser when it is accelerating, then it makes it so that you have to stop accelerating to turn.


- Make missiles have to be constructed, you have to build a payload and a thrusting system, and maybe a expensive shield penetration module that has a small chance of ignoring enemy shields.

- Make the navigation table, in the bridge, instead be a viewing screen, that tells the captain how much of everything is stored, what can be fabricated, what power is being generated and what it is being used for, and anything else that you have to leave the bridge to find out, or ask someone about.

- allow creation of shield cell for fighters/miners, 200 in a stack, stacks give 20% shielding to that ship. when this shield is damaged, remove some of the cells.

- (IMPORTANT) Make the power control panel have two more options, increase increment, and decrease increment, that changes the increment that power is allocated to something by 5GW. Cannot go below 5 or above 100. This will reduce the click frenzy required to up or lower power to stuff

- Make power sent to power the lasers be added to a energy pool, half to each gun. When you use a laser turret, it will initially have a power level of 5, with 6 options, +5, +25, +100, -5, -25, -100, which change the power level. When you fire a laser, it uses power from its pool equal to its power level, and deals damage proportional to the power level. This would work better than the old system, which appeared to waste power continuously. You could send something like 10 power to the lasers continuously, from the start of the game, and when engaging the enemy, you could have like 3k power, and if you set the laser power to 500, you could fire 6 uber strong shots at the enemy ship. or you could use smaller bursts, using 100 power each, and dealing less damage, but having 30 shots. you could use any power level you wanted. Also, the two lasers have separate energy pools, so that if two people used each one, you wouldnt have the energy hogging problem. You may need to add a max to how strong lasers could get tho
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However, it seems impossible to get intelligent people in battlenet, that can understand the game and work together

Getting a single team for this game is difficult, getting two who are similarly matched is near impossible.

I think that if, for the second team, you put computers in, the second ship would be controlled by AI. However, nothing goes on inside the ship, it wouldnt need to harvest minerals, or create anything, missiles would be created periodically in the slots, upgrades would occur randomly, and hull damage would automaticly repair. both laser turrets would be fired at the enemy ship if seen. ect

Another idea for if you put computers as second team, it spawns a bunch of ships, all controlled by individual ai, and they would wander around, attacking you if they see you

It would be much easier to get one good team than two.

-off topic:
This thread is gliched, it says there are 13 threads, but only 12 can be accessed
Fixed, because the 13th one exists now

A few of your ideas are fucking priceless, best +rep i ever gave

P.S. Sorry for being tooo stupid to multi-quote, i won't do it again or any more.

 

[Koloricsi]

Ideas:

• I can only repeat that boardings would be fun
• Making cannons to the side of the ships like the front laser turrets but slower projectile speed and longer cd
• Idk what, but somehow make the game last even longer
• A new team->to make the game longer
• I also loved the idea of the missile making(components to make a whole)
• This secret technology thing would be awsome too
• Again-missiles autoload would be great
• New vessels
• This raming stuff is kinda strange, in SPACE if 2 ships collide= END for both(they like "emergency manouver" so they dont colled,1 goes down-1 goes up
• Repeat, long ranged missiles->FUN
• Fuel for cruiser? Like for low res(cuz a LOT will needed) u make fuel
• More roles for fighter(cant do serious problem to enemy cruiser), the only role is no what I know(it could be that im am alone ) is to "hunt" enemy miner
• More kind of missiles, for specific actions like EMP(disable engines,turrets,silos,shields for short time),anti-shield missile[does more dmg to shield(like 10-20% or idk)but far less to hull].
• Tractor beam for enemy ships(miner->u get a part of the minerals in its cargo) or meteors(->an inner mining)

 

[masterofra]

A few of your ideas are fucking priceless, best +rep i ever gave

P.S. Sorry for being tooo stupid to multi-quote, i won't do it again or any more.

I will be adding ideas as i think of them.

 

[DiMiX]

Ideas:

• I can only repeat that boardings would be fun
• Making cannons to the side of the ships like the front laser turrets but slower projectile speed and longer cd
• Idk what, but somehow make the game last even longer
• A new team->to make the game longer
• I also loved the idea of the missile making(components to make a whole)
• This secret technology thing would be awsome too
• Again-missiles autoload would be great
• New vessels
• This raming stuff is kinda strange, in SPACE if 2 ships collide= END for both
• Repeat, long ranged missiles->FUN
• Fuel for cruiser? Like for low res(cuz a LOT will needed) u make fuel
• More roles for fighter(cant do serious problem to enemy cruiser), the only role is no what I know(it could be that im am alone ) is to "hunt" enemy miner
• More kind of missiles, for specific actions like EMP(disable engines,turrets,silos,shields for short time),anti-shield missile[does more dmg to shield(like 10-20% or idk)but far less to hull].
• Tractor beam for enemy ships(miner->u get a part of the minerals in its cargo) or meteors(->an inner mining)

You know what? You're post inspired me to think in this manner

Simple problems, like colision, require simple but correct solutions.

Why don't you just take out ship colission all together in a way that doesn't affect the atmosphere of the game ?

+Rep


@Masterofra - You sure do that, but know that you quoted MY PERSONAL opinnion, Callex on the other side, might not be as generous with the compliments, he always thanks people, but in adequate moderation.

 

[Cpt.ZnacK]

Da map rawks

 

[Koloricsi]

I play on garena too, if u wish add me, im Koloricsi

 

[masterofra]

I'm thinking of adding random space encounters; the occasional pirate fighter, and maybe even a cruiser in some games. These hostiles could drop special technologies that aren't normally unlockable. This way I could get away with adding some very cool technology without worrying about ruining the focus of the game i.e boarding, cloaking etc etc.

Something Occurred to me, If you were going to randomly introduce new units while in game, like a pirate ship, where would they come from? my suggestion is to create them at a random spot, at least half of camera range away from all ships, and make it like a wormhole opened or something, spawning them, and closing. As for asteroids, how do they spawn anyway. Also, for random events, I may have some good ideas

- Ion storm. A Location on the map not visible to anyone is picked randomly. some special effect is played in a large aoe there. Any ships that are in the area, will take 10% shield damage per second, or massive hull damage, and radar stops working. Lasts a short amount of time

- Wormhole. Two points, far away from each other, and not too close to any ship are chosen. One point spawns a black hole, and one spawns a white hole. The black hole pulls units within x distance closer, the pull speed being higher closer. The white hole pushes units away similarly. Any unit hitting the black hole, will teleport to the white hole, Asteroids do not take damage, ships take 90% of their max health in damage. Shield absorb this damage. , Radar does not work while being pushed or pulled by a hole.

- Evil Meteors. A large amount of meteors spawn from a wormhole, which then Accelerate towards ships in range. Shields Take damage from each meteor, depending on size and speed, disintegrating the meteor. If it hits a nonshielded part of a ship, they will stick to the ship, and start draining power. after 5 seconds, and 1000 power is drained. they explode, dealing hull damage. Energy discharges attract meteors, and if lasers hit a meteor, it gains better acceleration, and targets the ship that fired on it. Rockets disintegrate them.

- Pirates. A wormhole opens, and 1-2 cruisers spawn from it. They are enemies of both Cruisers, They have 60% shields, level 40 lasers, and 150 speed engines. Both lasers are active, and for missiles, it starts with 6 of some type, and every 5 seconds, if a space is empty, one is filled with a random missile.

- Sheeproids. A wormhole opens, and a large number (60 or so) of Sheeproids(look like flying sheep) spawn from it. The sheeproids wonder around until they find a ship. then they ram into it, going through the shield 40% of the time, and dealing minor hull damage (ran out of ideas)

 

[Koloricsi]

However, it seems impossible to get intelligent people in battlenet, that can understand the game and work together

Getting a single team for this game is difficult, getting two who are similarly matched is near impossible.

I think that if, for the second team, you put computers in, the second ship would be controlled by AI. However, nothing goes on inside the ship, it wouldnt need to harvest minerals, or create anything, missiles would be created periodically in the slots, upgrades would occur randomly, and hull damage would automaticly repair. both laser turrets would be fired at the enemy ship if seen. ect

Another idea for if you put computers as second team, it spawns a bunch of ships, all controlled by individual ai, and they would wander around, attacking you if they see you

It would be much easier to get one good team than two.

Probably because most of the B.Net users are under 14 :

 

[masterofra]

Probably because most of the B.Net users are under 14 :

So true